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UFC FN 180 PBP/Discussion

GoatArtemLobov said:
It's not how it works in the UFC, it has been so for decades, if judges were judge damage, Usman would have never been champ.
So yes, in the UFC's judging, being on top for 4 minutes>landing few strikes in what was actually a scramble for 30 seconds...
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No, they've actually changed the scoring criteria. Damage is first and is the clear first thing that judges are supposed to take into account. Your Usman example makes no sense, in what fight did he take more damage than he gave that he was given the decision?

And there was some scrambling in the last 45 seconds, but with the Frenchman on top during almost all of it and landing strikes. Mullarkey didn't even throw strikes while on top, nor work for a submission. He simply held position in rd 3, because earlier in the fight he was swept when getting impatient with trying to advance his position.

I did not like the ref so quickly telling him to work though, on that I agree. After a couple minutes, sure. But the ref was yapping at him within 30-45 seconds of him getting top control. That can affect the fight if a fighter makes mistakes because a ref is too impatient. But the ref did then end up letting him lay on top for almost 3 minutes, so it's not like Mullarkey did something dumb the instant the ref was telling him to do something.
 
BigSteve said:
disagree my man, if you are getting mat returned for almost 5 minutes its obviously racking up points. Its setting up a dodgy situation where fights can constantly be changed with 10 seconds to go based on a couple strikes. Slippery slope
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It was more like 3 minutes though, to about 45 seconds or so the other way. And it was seriously NO strikes landed for Mullarkey. While Ziam landed some very good shots in his time on top.

It was still a close round for sure, I'm not saying Ziam clearly won it. But laying on top, no advancement, no strikes for 3 minutes shouldn't win you a round when you do literally nothing else.
 
mkess101 said:
No, they've actually changed the scoring criteria. Damage is first and is the clear first thing that judges are supposed to take into account. Your Usman example makes no sense, in what fight did he take more damage than he gave that he was given the decision?

And there was some scrambling in the last 45 seconds, but with the Frenchman on top during almost all of it and landing strikes. Mullarkey didn't even throw strikes while on top, nor work for a submission. He simply held position in rd 3, because earlier in the fight he was swept when getting impatient with trying to advance his position.

I did not like the ref so quickly telling him to work though, on that I agree. After a couple minutes, sure. But the ref was yapping at him within 30-45 seconds of him getting top control. That can affect the fight if a fighter makes mistakes because a ref is too impatient. But the ref did then end up letting him lay on top for almost 3 minutes, so it's not like Mullarkey did something dumb the instant the ref was telling him to do something.
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What "damage" are you talking about? The 3 little hammerfists? Lol this doesn't outweigh 3 minutes of top control.
It's not as if Ziam had him badly hurt, knocked down, or close to tapping...
I don't want to argue with you but, no offense, if you don't think Mullarkey got robbed, you clearly don't know what you are looking at.
Or you are happy because you had money on Ziam and if so I am happy for you being lucky af, but common, Ziam didn't win at all.
 
If Philips manages to return the tables on Park for 30 seconds, judges will give him the round lol
 
i haven't seen a guy get beat this badly in consecutive fights since tyron woodley.
 
GoatArtemLobov said:
What "damage" are you talking about? The 3 little hammerfists? Lol this doesn't outweigh 3 minutes of top control.
It's not as if Ziam had him badly hurt, knocked down, or close to tapping...
I don't want to argue with you but, no offense, if you don't think Mullarkey got robbed, you clearly don't know what you are looking at.
Or you are happy because you had money on Ziam and if so I am happy for you being lucky af, but common, Ziam didn't win at all.
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Ziam landed a few decent shots, way more than the one strike Mullarkey landed with his 3 minutes. No, Ziam didn't have him hurt at all, not what I'm saying. I had no $ on either guy. I know what I'm watching and no, it was not a "robbery". I would have zero issue with Mullarkey getting the nod either. Round 3 was close because laying on top of a guy isn't supposed to count for much, and Ziam actually landed some strikes.

It was a close fight and I'm fine with people thinking Mullarkey won. That's different than "robbery" though.
 
What is Phillips even doing in the UFC. His corner should just throw in the towel and save him the punishment. No path to victory.
 
What an awful fight

surprised the gtd bet cashed
 
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