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UFC 211 - Stipe vs JDS II - Dallas

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TimCoreCombat said:
Why is everyone acting like JJ is chinny? She's been rocked but its not like she's getting knocked out.
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True, but the girls who she's been getting rocked by don't hit as hard as Andrade.
 
Ham Socks said:
Agreed. ML only.
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Don't understand this.

Can Yair win by stoppage? Sure. But Frankie is tough as hell and hasn't been stopped even if fights vs the best in the world and even when caught by big punchers like Stephens.

I'm not saying don't play Yair ML, but it's +115 and dec is currently +271 (I took Yair dec +345 and honestly kinda wish I'd done more).

You don't think taking 25-35% of what you plan to bet on Yair ML and putting it on Dec makes sense? Maybe my style is just a bit more aggressive.
 
MMA Gambling Expert said:
I am predicting a massive W for this event, so much betting potential on this card, I have strong leans.

Still disappointed about taking an L last event, I got swept, that's never happened to me before. Honestly feels surreal, on paper I thought my plays were solid, I liked them but it just wasn't my night, I got not excuse, you get what you pay for and I guess I paid for bums.

Maybe I was a little overconfident but its hard not to be when you've been having massive W's like myself

I'm all about staying positive though, L's are healthy for your accounts, relieved to lose honestly, but still super sour.

At the end of the day it's just a bump in the road but I hate losing. I haven't lost back to back events in over six months, no doubt I'm getting this W. Like I said, strong leans.
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Don't bet on Ellenberger and you'll be fine.
 
Stipe Miocic vs. Junior Dos Santos
Joanna Jedrzejczyk vs. Jessica Andrade
Demian Maia vs. Jorge Masvidal
Frankie Edgar vs. Yair Rodriguez
Henry Cejudo vs. Sergio Pettis
Eddie Alvarez vs. Dustin Poirier
Chas Skelly vs. Jason Knight
Krzysztof Jotko vs. David Branch
Polo Reyes vs. James Vick
Jessica Aguilar vs. Cortney Casey
Jared Gordon vs. Michel Quinones
Chase Sherman vs. Dmitry Poberezhets
Gabriel Benitez vs. Enrique Barzola
Joachim Christensen vs. Gadzhimurad Antigulov

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Joachim Christensen vs. Gadzhimurad Antigulov??

when did that sneak on the card?
 
raketmannen said:
DC is gonna strike with manuwa also, no kicks/takedowns. You cant always trust what fighters say
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Sure. I guess its just a judgement call. I don't believe DC at all. OTOH I believe Mas 100%. Its basically just getting to know these guys and understanding how they think.

I have seen enough of Mas interviews and his podcast on "The Church" with Joey Diaz. I have a pretty good idea of where Mas' head is at.
 
TimCoreCombat said:
Why is everyone acting like JJ is chinny? She's been rocked but its not like she's getting knocked out.
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Yeah I agree JJ isn't really chinny IMO but jeez looking at tape of Andrade she is scary AF.

Andrade stands in the pocket and swings like Lineker. Andrade has already said she plans to just stand in the pocket and trade. If it is a slugfest then Andrade will win. She is just thicker and will take damage better. JJ has a petite frame.
 
Monster Meat said:
cowboy scared? the guy fights every 2 months come on now
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It's pretty established in the MMA community that Cerrone has trouble with nerves. It's one of the reasons he's considered a slow starter.
 
LEMONZEST said:
Sure. I guess its just a judgement call. I don't believe DC at all. OTOH I believe Mas 100%. Its basically just getting to know these guys and understanding how they think.

I have seen enough of Mas interviews and his podcast on "The Church" with Joey Diaz. I have a pretty good idea of where Mas' head is at.
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Haha i love uncle joey, the podcasts with Masvidal were good. I just cant bring my self to lay on Masvidal as the favorite, if the odds get even better towards fight time i'm going to be on Maia.
 
LEMONZEST said:
Yeah I agree JJ isn't really chinny IMO but jeez looking at tape of Andrade she is scary AF.

Andrade stands in the pocket and swings like Lineker. Andrade has already said she plans to just stand in the pocket and trade. If it is a slugfest then Andrade will win. She is just thicker and will take damage better. JJ has a petite frame.
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Agreed. I'm really interested in seeing how this fight plays out. JJ puts out so much more volume than her opponents, but Jessica showed against Penne and Hill that she can set a hell of a pace as well. Against Hill, the third round ended up being her busiest but it remains to be seen if she can keep that up over 5 rounds. We know JJ can for sure.

I think JJ needs to be a lot more mindful of her defense in this fight. When you're fighting KK, Penne, Val etc. you can throw caution to the wind a bit more since none of them have legitimate fight ending power and the takedown is the real threat with Gadelha (before she gasses and turns into a punching bag). Still, JJ was rocked in a couple of situations. If that happens here, I feel like she's going to be in serious trouble of getting finished. I wouldn't be surprised to see Jessica stop her with strikes or jump on a choke if she has her in trouble.

On the flipside, JJ is obviously on another level from the girls that Andrade has fought at 115 so far. If the fight goes into the later rounds she may have the advantage. Andrade has no problem taking one to give one and if she doesn't get the finish in the first few rounds, I think its pretty safe to assume she'll have taken quite a bit of damage. That said, Andrade is the play at current odds IMO.
 
I think it is absolutely fair to question if JJ is chinny. KK has shown no power in other fights and had JJ hurt pretty badly. Claudia dropped her with a jab 10 seconds into their second fight and believe hurt her later on with an elbow as well. This is the 115 lb women's division afterall, there isn't a lot of KO's, so the fact JJ has never been finished doesn't necessarily mean she isn't chinny. Andrade hits way harder than KK and Claudia and throws way more volume. The chances she lands flush with 1 of the 200 lineker-esque hooks she is going to be throwing has to be pretty high. She doesn't have to finish JJ to win, either. If she has JJ hurt that will more than likely win what I expect to be close rounds. She also has the TD threat, will be the one moving forward, etc. Expecting a close fight, but definitely seems like this is a tough stylistic matchup for JJ.
 
mkess101 said:
Don't understand this.

Can Yair win by stoppage? Sure. But Frankie is tough as hell and hasn't been stopped even if fights vs the best in the world and even when caught by big punchers like Stephens.

I'm not saying don't play Yair ML, but it's +115 and dec is currently +271 (I took Yair dec +345 and honestly kinda wish I'd done more).

You don't think taking 25-35% of what you plan to bet on Yair ML and putting it on Dec makes sense? Maybe my style is just a bit more aggressive.
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Im ssying only the ML as a safety measure.
 
Cornrow Kenny said:
@Rebel_LioN how did your elite parlays do last event?
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I'm sure everyone busted on the that same leg that I did. My head wasn't into this card and I still haven't watched the fights yet I need to go do that. It was a premeditated decision to take the night off but I still did some last min degen plays and fucked up like -20 units. Must've been the drugs that placed these parlays.

$169.97 $640.00 $0.00 Loss 6 Team Parlay
Win 4/22/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Cub Swanson -670*vs Artem Lobov
Win 4/22/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1102 Al Iaquinta -400*vs Diego Sanchez
Win 4/22/17 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 John Dodson -440*vs Eddie Wineland
Win 4/22/17 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1601 Sam Alvey/Thales Leites Over 2½ -205*
Loss 4/22/17 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1701 Brandon Moreno/Dustin Ortiz Over 2½ -285*
Win 4/22/17 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1802 Scott Holtzman -290*vs Michael McBride

$100.00 $376.54 $0.00 Loss 6 Team Parlay
Win 4/22/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Cub Swanson -670*vs Artem Lobov
Win 4/22/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1102 Al Iaquinta -400*vs Diego Sanchez
4/22/17 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 John Dodson -440*vs Eddie Wineland
Win 4/22/17 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1601 Sam Alvey/Thales Leites Over 2½ -205*
Loss 4/22/17 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1701 Brandon Moreno/Dustin Ortiz Over 2½ -285*
Win 4/22/17 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1802 Scott Holtzman -290*vs Michael McBride

$410.00 $1,535.05 $0.00 Loss 6 Team Parlay
Win 4/22/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Cub Swanson -670*vs Artem Lobov
Win 4/22/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1102 Al Iaquinta -400*vs Diego Sanchez
Win 4/22/17 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 John Dodson -440*vs Eddie Wineland
Win 4/22/17 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1601 Sam Alvey/Thales Leites Over 2½ -205*
Loss 4/22/17 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1701 Brandon Moreno/Dustin Ortiz Over 2½ -290*
Win 4/22/17 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1802 Scott Holtzman -290*vs Michael McBride

$420.00 $1,538.10 $0.00 Loss 6 Team Parlay
Win 4/22/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Cub Swanson -670*vs Artem Lobov
Win 4/22/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1102 Al Iaquinta -420*vs Diego Sanchez
Win 4/22/17 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 John Dodson -440*vs Eddie Wineland
Win 4/22/17 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1601 Sam Alvey/Thales Leites Over 2½ -210*
Loss 4/22/17 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1701 Brandon Moreno/Dustin Ortiz Over 2½ -290*
Win 4/22/17 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1802 Scott Holtzman -290*vs Michael McBride

In other news I got to see Kung Fu Kenny live @ Coachella. We were fuckin LIT.



Fuck my bankroll I like to spend it -- !!
 
Rebel_LioN said:
I'm sure everyone busted on the that same leg that I did. My head wasn't into this card and I still haven't watched the fights yet I need to go do that. It was a premeditated decision to take the night off but I still did some last min degen plays and fucked up like -20 units. Must've been the drugs that placed these parlays.

$169.97 $640.00 $0.00 Loss 6 Team Parlay
Win 4/22/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Cub Swanson -670*vs Artem Lobov
Win 4/22/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1102 Al Iaquinta -400*vs Diego Sanchez
Win 4/22/17 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 John Dodson -440*vs Eddie Wineland
Win 4/22/17 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1601 Sam Alvey/Thales Leites Over 2½ -205*
Loss 4/22/17 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1701 Brandon Moreno/Dustin Ortiz Over 2½ -285*
Win 4/22/17 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1802 Scott Holtzman -290*vs Michael McBride

$100.00 $376.54 $0.00 Loss 6 Team Parlay
Win 4/22/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Cub Swanson -670*vs Artem Lobov
Win 4/22/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1102 Al Iaquinta -400*vs Diego Sanchez
4/22/17 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 John Dodson -440*vs Eddie Wineland
Win 4/22/17 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1601 Sam Alvey/Thales Leites Over 2½ -205*
Loss 4/22/17 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1701 Brandon Moreno/Dustin Ortiz Over 2½ -285*
Win 4/22/17 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1802 Scott Holtzman -290*vs Michael McBride

$410.00 $1,535.05 $0.00 Loss 6 Team Parlay
Win 4/22/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Cub Swanson -670*vs Artem Lobov
Win 4/22/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1102 Al Iaquinta -400*vs Diego Sanchez
Win 4/22/17 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 John Dodson -440*vs Eddie Wineland
Win 4/22/17 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1601 Sam Alvey/Thales Leites Over 2½ -205*
Loss 4/22/17 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1701 Brandon Moreno/Dustin Ortiz Over 2½ -290*
Win 4/22/17 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1802 Scott Holtzman -290*vs Michael McBride

$420.00 $1,538.10 $0.00 Loss 6 Team Parlay
Win 4/22/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1002 Cub Swanson -670*vs Artem Lobov
Win 4/22/17 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1102 Al Iaquinta -420*vs Diego Sanchez
Win 4/22/17 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1302 John Dodson -440*vs Eddie Wineland
Win 4/22/17 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1601 Sam Alvey/Thales Leites Over 2½ -210*
Loss 4/22/17 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1701 Brandon Moreno/Dustin Ortiz Over 2½ -290*
Win 4/22/17 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1802 Scott Holtzman -290*vs Michael McBride

In other news I got to see Kung Fu Kenny live @ Coachella. We were fuckin LIT.



Fuck my bankroll I like to spend it -- !!
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You... You lost a parlay?

Editors note: I'd Zak Cummings all over your girlfriend
 
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Cornrow Kenny said:
You... You lost a parlay?

Editors note: I'd use your girlfriend as a depository
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Yeah I lose plenty and win plenty that I don't even post. I just like to share the ridiculous ones.

Here's one from last night:

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Don't be rude.. but it's ok lol here are some Asian peaches for your viewing pleasure

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And why not 1 of me for good measure :p
 

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OK Rebel Lion goes into the #elite HoF for hanging out in some beautiful looking places with a bunch of chicks I would pop some rhinos for and go at all night
 
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