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UFC 207 - Nunes vs Rousey - Vegas

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garcia looking happy .. confidence increase. going big on him I think pyle is done. he got that nice comeback vs spencer but spencer sucks big time and he was hurt there badly. garcia sucks after r1 but i think he has a proper gameplan with firas figured out and strickland fight wont repeat.

 
Vettori predicts he will finish Carlos Jr.

 
I am still reading through the thread, so don't know if anyone has already touched upon this. I think there is alot of value on Means at almost evens. Homasi had some early succes with a couple of takedowns, even though it was short notice for him. He blew his cardio pretty early which helped Means alot. Means is always looking for something if he gets taken down, and try to find a way of standing up quickly. He KNOWS that Cowboy want to clinch and wrestle. The problem with Cowboy is his bad striking technique. He doesn't sit up his punches at all. He wings 100% overhands while closing the distance for his next step which is the clinch. Means got extraordinary striking technique compared to Cowboy. With his reach and technique, he will be able to counter Cowboy when he comes in aggressively. Means counter elbows and knees in the open clinch are some of his best combinations as well. I really do only see cowboy winning this if he can steal more than 1 round by continuosly take Means down. Cerrone was the same size as Cowboy, but we didn't see enough of the striking. Means will not only be 3 inches taller than Cowboy, but he will also have the reach advantage. Something Cowboy is not used to. It's also a good sign that Means probably had his best performance his last fight.

You could very likely see a stoppage from Means as well.
 
Well I obviously do not know what CBD is then LOL. I was assuming it was cannabis/hash oil
cannabis has many active compounds. thc is the main one that gets you high. cbd is a more mellow compound, and often used in medicinal use, pain relief etc, because of its effectiveness while not getting you high.
 
garcia looking happy .. confidence increase. going big on him I think pyle is done. he got that nice comeback vs spencer but spencer sucks big time and he was hurt there badly. garcia sucks after r1 but i think he has a proper gameplan with firas figured out and strickland fight wont repeat.


confidence increase because he looks happy?

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he's doing a good impression of the Werdum face tho
 
Means cowboy thoughts.

How does Cowboy win? He will have to clinch against the fence and mix in takedowns. Only time cowboy has been content to stand is against burns due to the ground threat and hallmann where he had a clear advantage. He will not want to stand with means. The problem with a clinch and takedown heavy approach for someone like cowboy is his takedowns arent great, means is nasty with elbows and while means can be taken down his get ups are excellent. Ive never seen him down for more than 30 seconds. Cowboy can be really sloppy in transition too (see merritt and hallmann fights) and means has an underrated top game. He uses his elbows really well from top and he is very dangerous with his knees as you try to stand back up. Means also attempts the odd takedown so i would not be at all surprised if he decided to keep cowboy honest and try to put him on his back.

On the feet not many utilise all eight limbs like means. Cowboy has only really let his hands fly against burns and hallmann, but he only has a one inch reach advantage here compared to the massive reach advantage he usually has. Cowboy is really wild and the over exaggeration on his strikes leaves him open to be countered. He also holds his chin high when his throwing. Means is excellent at staying just out of range and throws a really effective teep to the body that wears on people as the minutes wear on. Means is a pressure fighter so it will be interesting to see how effective cowboy is on the back foot my suspicions are he will be ineffective trying to counter.

Is means going to be able to escape the clinch tho? Hard question to answer but im willing to bet he will. Cowboy likes to bully but here he is facing someone his size for the first time outside of cerrone. When means has been clinched in other fights he has shown good ability to disengage, and while cowboy is the most smothering guy he has faced as i said above he is the biggest guy cowboys faced and means loves a dirty in fight.

In short i think means' dangerous stand up in all facets, size and get ups are enough to carry him to victory. I also think means can take advantage of cowboys sloppy technique at times in transition and put a beating on cowboy from top if he gets there. Brooks and cerrone were able to mount him effortlessly and hallmann easily controlled him for a round from top. A big part of cowboys game is slowing people down and then taking over see Merritt and Moon fights. Merritt was short notice and moon gasses every fight means is a cardio machine. Brook was 2 0 up but the rib injury cost him the fight and i have no idea what kj was thinking fighting at 170. Good luck trying to wear means out and closing the distance constantly without getting busted up. Cowboys clinch and td strategy is not going to work against better comp as his takedowns are just not good enough nor is his ground game. Plus he will lose the strength advantage he has been using to bully everyone. Everyone he has beaten has been cut (brooks not but brooks lost that due to injury more than cowboy being the better fighter plus he came in 7lbs over weight) and hallmann and merritt have lost since being cut in other orgs. Love means price.

Edit: one other point is i watched all means' ufc fights since his second ufc stint 8 in total. And win or lose he had his opponent hurt at some point. Gonna be interesting to see what cowboy is like absorbing punishment and how he responds he hasnt taken any fire on the feet yet. I dont like how easily he tapped to cerrones triangle theres no way that was fully locked in.

Lol, just saw your post after writing my own breakdown. Exactly the same as my thoughts, just more detailed :D WP mate!
 
does anyone know where cowboy trains? is he still at att? im pretty torn on this fight.
 
OK im done. Going big on means, not because of your breakdowns but I think this is the fight where cowboys bad karma shows himself. He missed weight in his last fight and beat injured brooks. But who has he beaten before that? James moontasri MEH, Hallmann MEH............. hasnt beaten anybody relevant. cerrone kicked his ass. I know i said who has means beaten but fuck this...........................................I mean. means has 10cm height advantage which is BIG! Means has never been finished. and i doubt they give black guy a decision
 
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Am I the only one that think the Dillashaw vs. Lineker fight is much closer than the odds suggest?

It's gonna be a risky bet for me, but I have to exploit that line of Lineker with a healthy bet.

I honestly think it's a lot wider than the odds. I'd need -300 to play him and even then I'm not sure I would. I think TJ's footwork is going to prevent him from cornering him, his feints will disrupt Lineker's timing and leave him throwing bombs at air, and TJ will have success wrestling him. I would be shocked if Lineker successfully made a pressure game work against TJ, and I have no faith in him to consistently catch him coming in where Assuncao failed to.
 
I'm going in boys..$5 11 fight parlay with hopes of clearing my debt

Can't wait to see this go down the toilet in the first fight when someone gets their toe stuck in the cage
 
What I've seen was pretty bad skill-wise but he seems tough.
I won't bet anything in Price but I may play Thatch for action. Tiny like $10.

Here's my wiki capping.

Don't know if it was posted but his fight with Jose Caceres is the most recent one I found.
His opponent had the same body type as thatch but sucked.
It was hard to find. I went to Niko Prices YouTube and it was favorited by his channel.
Can't find it on mobile.
It also appears he's a PC gamer so he probably wasn't training that hard as there was a new Warcraft expansion.

He also went to a decision against a 4-4 fighter in his last fight.

Worth noting Price said on a podcast earlier this year that he's been training BJJ for 8 years now. If he can get Thatch down, there's a chance we could see his usual grappling demons come out again.

A downside worth mentioning is Price has never fought outside of Florida and I wonder if that will affect him in any way.
 
Marvin vettori is a BJJ brown belt if some of you didnt know. He got it after his last fight. I think Shoeface gets outstruck here if it stays standing but any chance shoeface gets this fight on the floor.. no i guess?His takedowns are terrible.He also gasses big time so.
 
Man I am so pumped to see Ronda comeback. It's crazy how fast time goes by UFC 193 was like last week for me but I'm worried about her stand up considering some of the training videos i've been seeing...

 
Man I am so pumped to see Ronda comeback. It's crazy how fast time goes by UFC 193 was like last week for me but I'm worried about her stand up considering some of the training videos i've been seeing...


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She should seriously add double and single leg takedowns to her arsenal. If she doesnt get the clinch then what?
 
Man I am so pumped to see Ronda comeback. It's crazy how fast time goes by UFC 193 was like last week for me but I'm worried about her stand up considering some of the training videos i've been seeing...



Pretty sure that footage is old
 
as Brick said earlier garcia/pyle is a good fight for livebet. if it goes past r1 pyle's chances grow
 
Marvin vettori is a BJJ brown belt if some of you didnt know. He got it after his last fight. I think Shoeface gets outstruck here if it stays standing but any chance shoeface gets this fight on the floor.. no i guess?His takedowns are terrible.He also gasses big time so.
Brown belt who submitted 2 black belts back-to-back
 
good bankroll management, more ppl should follow this method. Mines very similar but I will go higher than 5u max on very rare occasions or for a trade.



not sure, I've been banned for a while. they were ok when I joined but I got gubbed pretty quickly.
Thanks, I learned a few tough lessons along the way before figuring that out though. And yeah sometimes albeit very rarely I go over 5u. I put 10u on McGregor KO for 205 :D
 
A lot of questions going into this card..

-can Tim Means stop Brazilian Cowboy smothering him for 3 rounds?
-is post usada Johny Hendricks shot?
-where's Ronda's mental state at?
-will Cain walk out with a fucking giant spliff behind his ear?
-is Buddy Brown really Brick Top?

Highly anticipated card. Christmas can fuck off. I'm excited folks.
 
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