UFC 203 - Stipe vs Overeem - Cleveland

[MacPherson911]

question: If I bet a parlay, and one of the fights gets cancelled, is the whole bet cancelled or is that fight just removed from the parlay? noob question, sorry.

 

[Ukram]

Punk looks like a skeleton already, I don't believe all that talk he has never cut weight or even tried it also, imagine spending 2 years for your mma debut and you forgot to test if the water was hot or not, sounds like mcalls I really am retired excuse.

Gals line is unplayable anyhow, will just enjoy the freak show and consider a live bet.

 

[Joseph Budden]

question: If I bet a parlay, and one of the fights gets cancelled, is the whole bet cancelled or is that fight just removed from the parlay? noob question, sorry.

Removed from parlay. Thanks to that rule I now have $150 on Nik Lentz -350

 

[Ukram]

Sherdog preview up:

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/1/Preview-UFC-203-Miocic-vs-Overeem-110755

Main card:
Overeem r3 ko
Werdum decision
Gall r1 ko
Rivera decision
Calderwood r3 sub

Prelims
Bethe decision
Lentz r3 sub
Tavares decision
Spencer decision
Dollaway r3 ko
Dober decision
hadsovic r2 ko


Like the pickings but jojo never hit a sub in her pro career so bit odd reckon andrande su or ko, maybe stipe via ko and gall sub though, bethe/eye is a toss up.

 

[Card]

Gall is listed as a switch (southpaw) fighter on Fightmetric

 

[MacPherson911]

Removed from parlay. Thanks to that rule I now have $150 on Nik Lentz -350

hahahahah, easy money though.

 

[Card]

Correia's "Significant Strikes Landed per Minute" is almost double Eye's

It's probably because in Eye's last 3 fights - she's always getting taken down - she landed 10, 30 and 56

 

[Joseph Budden]

Correia's "Significant Strikes Landed per Minute" is almost double Eye's

Of course. Eye got grappled in her last 2 fights lol

 

[EzFlyer]

McCall/Borg is OFF as Borg is ill.

lol. wth. poor mccall.

 

[Joseph Budden]

Connor Reubesch predicted Calderwood will fucking submit Andrade lol. I'm done reading his predictions, he's clueless.

Yeah he also says Taisumov is out with an injury. hes slacking

 

[Sham5916910]

Camp: no
Grappling: no
Cardio: no
Level of comp: mehhhh not really
Striking: no
Speed: no

Hometown: yes.. and that is the only thing holding me back from a bigger play on correia dec

Quite frankly, you're doing it again, man. You're way too confident . You're dismissive of what others say and 5u eye is an overbet.

You make so many outlandish statements and then either go back on them or eat your words.

Look, if you're confident, great. Maybe you're right. But slow your roll. Respect other's opinions and recognize the possibility that you might not always he right and/or the fights might play out differently than you expect

His book will let him cancel the bet no doubt.

 

[Brick Top]

Pennington is better than Eye in every aspect of the game, doesn't have massive deficiencies in fight IQ, is one of the most respectable fighters in all of WMMA, and Bethe arguably beat her. The criticisms of Bethe within the betting community have reached unrealistic, hyperbolic levels, without realizing that this is WMMA, i.e. very unevolved, and she doesn't have to make it look pretty to get the job done. Just being the more focused, beast of a chick, who won't lose it for herself, should be enough.

Why the fuck is Raquel so overrated?! It's actually baffling.

She lost to JESSICA RACOWKZY and Leslie Smith. Her most impressive win is probably the split over Bethe.

She's overrated and she sucks.

 

[Agent Mulder]

Why the fuck is Raquel so overrated?! It's actually baffling.

She lost to JESSICA RACOWKZY and Leslie Smith. Her most impressive win is probably the split over Bethe.

She's overrated and she sucks.

She is reliable in the sense that you know what you're gonna get which is rare in WMMA and good when betting.

 

[Brick Top]

Agree completely. Pennington is very reliable you know what you get with her so to run her close shows marked improvement. I'm not calling who wins this fight as i can't be arsed to watch tape but im pretty sure id come away thinking this is a crap shoot. Brick Top gives every advantage to Eye but you would probably do the same for Pennington yet she ran Pennington very close and I'd take Pennington over Eye.

Eye is significantly faster than Raquel, I think that is going to be a bigger advantage in this fight than people may think. Both Raquel and Bethe are REALLY slow and plodding. Eye at least has fast hands and lateral footwork as opposed to just plodding forward.

Also, if Bethe does run her close somehow I am fine with that. The fight is in Cleveland, Eye will get the decision every time. There's no way Bethe dominates her.

 

[Brick Top]

Camp: no
Grappling: no
Cardio: no
Level of comp: mehhhh not really
Striking: no
Speed: no

Hometown: yes.. and that is the only thing holding me back from a bigger play on correia dec

Quite frankly, you're doing it again, man. You're way too confident . You're dismissive of what others say and 5u eye is an overbet.

You make so many outlandish statements and then either go back on them or eat your words.

Look, if you're confident, great. Maybe you're right. But slow your roll. Respect other's opinions and recognize the possibility that you might not always he right and/or the fights might play out differently than you expect

You don't think Eye is FASTER than BETHE?

Jesus Christ. You know your stuff but sometimes you make mistakes too. You're putting too much stock into Bethe from Eye's performances against elite level fighters (and elite grapplers) and because you presumably bet on her against them. All I can say at this point is we'll see.

 

[Joseph Budden]

Comparing Eye & Raquel is apples and oranges. Styles make fights. Raqi sits back, doesn't fight at a high pace, doesn't throw combos, is comfortable countering and clinching. Eye will be much more offensive, throw volume and combos, and will break from the clinch with dirty boxing.

 

[Brick Top]

Correia's "Significant Strikes Landed per Minute" is almost double Eye's

It's probably because in Eye's last 3 fights - she's always getting taken down - she landed 10, 30 and 56

That means nothing. Like 100 of Bethe's significant strikes were from the Baszler fight were she just chilled against the fence with her chin in the air like a mong for 2 minutes. Probably like 200 were from the Duke fight where she also just ate shots. Eye has fought multiple elite grapplers that didn't allow her to pull the trigger, Bethe has only fought terrible strikers.

 

[Brick Top]

Sherdog preview up:

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/1/Preview-UFC-203-Miocic-vs-Overeem-110755

Main card:
Overeem r3 ko
Werdum decision
Gall r1 ko
Rivera decision
Calderwood r3 sub

Prelims
Bethe decision
Lentz r3 sub
Tavares decision
Spencer decision
Dollaway r3 ko
Dober decision
hadsovic r2 ko


Like the pickings but jojo never hit a sub in her pro career so bit odd reckon andrande su or ko, maybe stipe via ko and gall sub though, bethe/eye is a toss up.

Still laughing at the JoJo by sub prediction. Now I know for sure Reubesch is clueless.

 

[Brick Top]

And EZ, how can you say "not really" to level of comp? Eye dominated Leslie Smith and Sarah Kaufman. That is infinitely more impressive than anything Bethe has ever achieved.

Or do you think beating Baszler and Duke is anything to write home about?

I don't "always do this" and it doesn't always bite me in the ass either. I've done it 4 times on this forum and was right 3 times, all underdogs. And the one loss was a close decision. I'm not an idiot, if I'm confident it's for a reason.

 

[LEMONZEST]

She is reliable in the sense that you know what you're gonna get which is rare in WMMA and good when betting.

Yeah this is kinda how I see it. I don't think she is overrated just highly valued from bettors. We like people that fight in a consistent way. Raquel lost a split to HH and beat Ashely Evans Smith so she aint that bad considering the division.

I really don't like Eye as a fighter becuase I think she is mentally weak. Eye is coming off of 3 losses which can't be good for her confidence. Her 3 losses are to top tier fighters but I still dont' mind Bethe in this fight.

I won't be surprised if Bethe outboxes Eye and maybe even finishes her. An early or late finish from Bethe won't surprise me.