UFC 203 - Stipe vs Overeem - Cleveland

[Brick Top]

can't call someone an ''idiot'' just because they let hype get to them once in their career, when he was in front of 45.000 plus people, in his home country.

A guy with his experience should not be pulling shit like that. The guy beat Fedor ffs, that's infinitely more pressure and he didn't run at him like a mong.

He looked in terrible shape too. He's unbettable going forward IMO, even against Mr. Rousey. Good luck to anyone who bets on him though.

 

[Timurd123]

I'm not betting on Gall. I have an unshakable feeling that some crazy shit is going to go down, like Gall just running in like an idiot and getting caught.

I'm with you. Gall should absolutely starch him, but anything could happen. I'm prepared to hear from Goldy, "the referee didn't see it, Joe!"

So basically you're not betting on him cus something crazy can happen, that to me is a very affordable risk, the probability of Brooks landing something crazy or grabbing onto something are less than 5% to me

This is one of those fights that after they're done people will say "how the fuck didnt I lay my life savings on Gall ITD or Gall rd 1" imo

 

[AffectEffect]

A lot of talking about Jojo vs andrade, but not one mention of how the grappling will play out? That (or maybe cardio) might be the most important aspect of the fight...

 

[Timurd123]

After tapewatch think I like o2.5 for Yancy/Spencer. Nothing big though. Also like a stab at Spencer as a dog if money comes in on Yancy. Need around +140, or +200 to stab his dec prop. Think this might be a bad matchup for Yancy. Will probably just be a boxing match and Spencer seems to have better hand speed and cleaner technique. Yancy stands so upright and can be so awkward/stiff where as Spencer is much cleaner. Both guys real hittable, but also real tough.

Yancy is more a finisher tho, and he legit goes for it, cant say the same for Spencer, but I agree with you on Spenny having the sharper striking, power advantage to goes to Yancy tho, and Its not unfathomable to me that he lands something decent and slaps on a choke

 

[plekz]

A guy with

what type of logic did you use to come up with the notion that werdum somehow would have felt infinetly more pressure when he fought fedor? fedor was undefeated, believe werdum was a +600 dog, no one on earth expected him to win there. so no, he hardly felt any pressure compared to being hauled around all over brazil leading up to the stadium card, headlining it, in front of 45k+ people.

 

[fightfan2355]

So basically you're not betting on him cus something crazy can happen, that to me is a very affordable risk, the probability of Brooks landing something crazy or grabbing onto something are less than 5% to me

This is one of those fights that after they're done people will say "how the fuck didnt I lay my life savings on Gall ITD or Gall rd 1" imo

I'm right there with you, and I will be putting Gall ITD and rnd 1 in some parlays. But I won't be wagering much straight as the fight does not make any sense.... at all. A guy in his late 30s who has trained for 18 months is going to compete in the highest MMA league in the world.

It's just so absurd.

 

[Timurd123]

I'm right there with you, and I will be putting Gall ITD and rnd 1 in some parlays. But I won't be wagering much straight as the fight does not make any sense.... at all. A guy in his late 30s who has trained for 18 months is going to compete in the highest MMA league in the world.

It's just so absurd.

Thats exactly what im counting on

Pro vs. Amateur


They might as well pick a guy from the crowd

A guy with his experience should not be pulling shit like that. The guy beat Fedor ffs, that's infinitely more pressure and he didn't run at him like a mong.

He looked in terrible shape too. He's unbettable going forward IMO, even against Mr. Rousey. Good luck to anyone who bets on him though.

Unbettable going forward ? You're clearly not over the Stipe fight, the salt is clouding your judgement

Im putting Doom in a couple of parlays and will be looking to play his sub line as well, I think he will go out and finish Mr Rousey this time

Besides that there arent that many guys in the division that I would bet on against Werdum, including Stipe in a rematch

 

[fightfan2355]

Decent breakdown Overeem vs Stipe here...

I don't know who will win the fight but I think Roy Nelson is going to be a human potato in about 5 years. He took some massive shots from the both of them.

 

[Joseph Budden]

Thats exactly what im counting on

Pro vs. Amateur


They might as well pick a guy from the crowd





Unbettable going forward ? You're clearly not over the Stipe fight, the salt is clouding your judgement

Im putting Doom in a couple of parlays and will be looking to play his sub line as well, I think he will go out and finish Mr Rousey this time

Besides that there arent that many guys in the division that I would bet on against Werdum, including Stipe in a rematch

i don't think every person in the crowd has trained full time for 2 years and has the money to make sure one of the worlds top coaches is focusing on them......

 

[Brick Top]

Thats exactly what im counting on

Pro vs. Amateur


They might as well pick a guy from the crowd





Unbettable going forward ? You're clearly not over the Stipe fight, the salt is clouding your judgement

Im putting Doom in a couple of parlays and will be looking to play his sub line as well, I think he will go out and finish Mr Rousey this time

Besides that there arent that many guys in the division that I would bet on against Werdum, including Stipe in a rematch

Sub prop would be wasting your money. Mr. Rousey won't shoot. Will probably be another decision.

 

[Timurd123]

i don't think every person in the crowd has trained full time for 2 years and has the money to make sure one of the worlds top coaches is focusing on them......

He can have 5 years

He will look like he never trained once those doors close and Gall pops him in the face then slams him to the matt

 

[Brick Top]

So basically you're not betting on him cus something crazy can happen, that to me is a very affordable risk, the probability of Brooks landing something crazy or grabbing onto something are less than 5% to me

This is one of those fights that after they're done people will say "how the fuck didnt I lay my life savings on Gall ITD or Gall rd 1" imo

I'm not betting on him because he's a kid with 2 fights with shit striking himself. Yes he has the grappling advantage but I don't trust a kid with my money. It's just a freak show, I don't WANT to bet on it.

 

[Timurd123]

Sub prop would be wasting your money. Mr. Rousey won't shoot. Will probably be another decision.

Werdum can get a takedown from the clinch, if he gets on top of Browne, a finish is likely

 

[Brick Top]

what type of logic did you use to come up with the notion that werdum somehow would have felt infinetly more pressure when he fought fedor? fedor was undefeated, believe werdum was a +600 dog, no one on earth expected him to win there. so no, he hardly felt any pressure compared to being hauled around all over brazil leading up to the stadium card, headlining it, in front of 45k+ people.

Good point actually. You win. Still think he's a moron though.

 

[Brick Top]

Werdum can get a takedown from the clinch, if he gets on top of Browne, a finish is likely

Werdum going for takedowns against Browne would be up there with running at Stipe in terms of stupidity. He can just outstrike him easily like in the first fight, no need to risk getting elbowed to death.

 

[Joseph Budden]

He can have 5 years

He will look like he never trained once those doors close and Gall pops him in the face then slams him to the matt

What leads you to that conclusion?

 

[quincy k]

i dont know why anyone would bet werdum at the the open when almost all hapas kos are in the first round and there is a good chance that brownes gameplan will be to go for the finish in the first five minutes since fabricio is coming off a first round ko loss

perfect fight to live bet

 

[Ukram]

JCVD respects the Muay Thai of CM Punk

 

[Ukram]

A lot of talking about Jojo vs andrade, but not one mention of how the grappling will play out? That (or maybe cardio) might be the most important aspect of the fight...

andrade had pretty good cardio in her last fight went to r2 and still had power and plenty drive to get the ko win, but yeah jojo should have the cardio edge and tends to do well in r3s, still reckon andrades power will be too much just depends if she can close the distance, am feeling she will more times then not, maybe a flyer on r3 jojo in case. Grappling wise jojo tends to be a striker more and fight from range so not feeling we will see too much of it, both are strikers first off.

 

[Timurd123]

What leads you to that conclusion?

Mostly its because they took 2 years to get him ready, that and his age, and I havent seen a lot of confidence out of Brooks till very recently