Tyron Woodley's Unpopularity Explained by Din Thomas

Why aren't you a Woodley fan (if you aren't)?

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Jon Jones is somehow still immensely popular and he has literally done everything wrong over and over again.

If this was a race issue, he would be impacted negatively as well.
 
Woodley been acting like his shit don't stink

He tries to play match maker, discredits contenders from deserving title shots, chases fights that will nobody but himself are interested in, and always cries racism

It was a mistake for the UFC to sign him and I'm sure they are regretting it daily. He's not a good selling champ, and continues to alienate people with his "uppity" personality

He's just not a draw and has done irreversible damage to his "brand". He's made his bed, now he can sleep in it.
 
ReadWrite said:
“He’s a wealthy black man that speaks his mind, people don’t like that.
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In MMA, Rampage was a wealthy black man that spoke his mind & flaunted his wealth & was a big draw & very popular
 
I like Din bit what a friggin load of crap.
So tired of the race card being used in every scenario imaginable.
As if there are no valid reasons to dislike Tyrun other than race.
Liberal/progressive ideologies are poison to our society.
 
ReadWrite said:
Since Tyron Woodley won the UFC welterweight title at UFC 201 in 2016, the UFC has struggled with promoting a champion with the reputation for being widely disliked by fans. It doesn’t help matters that Woodley’s title defenses since becoming champion have been less than captivating or that UFC President Dana White has routinely feuded with his welterweight champion and thrown him under the proverbial bus on several occasions. But more so than either of those explanations, Woodley’s friend, coach, and podcast partner Din Thomas believes that race is one of the major reasons why Woodley has yet to gain traction with MMA fans.

“He’s not all that relatable to people,” Thomas told the UFC Unfiltered podcast yesterday. “He’s a wealthy black man that speaks his mind, people don’t like that. People didn’t like Cam Newton when Cam Newton was loud and brash. People just don’t like wealthy, large black men to speak their minds.

“It’s not all racial but let’s keep it real, when there’s a debate or whatever, Presidents wear a certain color tie to appeal to a certain demographic. We can’t try to hide the fact that our skin color has something to do with how people treat you. We can’t hide that fact.”

Woodley himself hasn’t been shy about suggesting that his race plays a role in how he has been treated by the fans and by the UFC, and as the issues continue to arise with Dana White still publicly lambasting his champion, it’s hard not to find some merit in the claims. And as for the counterargument that former light heavyweight champion Jon Jones is black and beloved by the fans and a star for the UFC, Thomas says that Jones is more relatable because of his numerous personal failings.

“Here’s the thing: Jon Jones is a lot more relatable because Jon Jones doesn’t come off like he’s great,” Thomas suggested. “My sister-in-law once said to me, ‘Look at Tyron, he acts like he’s better than everybody,’ and she said that not knowing Tyron but just what he puts out there. But Jon Jones can’t because he’s a drug addict and steroids and he’s running pregnant ladies over, so he comes off as human. He has problems and people can relate to that.”

Some people contend that Woodley’s failure to connect with fans has nothing to do with his race but stems from his attitude and suggest that Woodley is just “race-baiting.” Thomas concludes by arguing against that, admitting that Woodley’s inability to gain broader appeal with the MMA fan base at large is not solely a product of his race, but that race is definitely a key factor in the whole thing.

“There’s a lot of different reasons,” concluded Thomas. “Don’t get me wrong, sometimes it comes off as if we’re saying all people don’t like him because he’s black, but I don’t believe that for a second. I just think that’s one of the elements that makes him less relatable.”

Woodley is still recovering from shoulder surgery he had in December but is anticipating a summertime return to the cage, though no opponent is currently set.

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For me he's Lawlor, journeyman fighter who happened to be at the right place at the right time and happened to be the champ. Boring, and as entitled as some millenial with rich dad.
 
Is he that unpopular? Serious question because I don't know his PPV #s. If I had to guess I'd imagine he probably is higher than you'd expect a random champ to be without longevity + the last two fights that he's had. Compare his last two fights with MM's last two and I'm sure he kills the MM #s despite having much worse recent fights and much less longevity.

Anyway I was anti-Tyron when he first became champ because 0 defenses and pushing for money fights is utter bullshit. But now that he's made 3 defenses (one fight was great the other two were horrible) the guy is overdue for something more fan friendly. Not circus-moron fan friendly, but yeah I'd love GSP vs Tyron.
 
obviously the last one, I mean look at Jones popularity
 
Where does this myth of people not liking wealthy black men who speak out come from? Have they never turned on the television in the past 15 years? It's so often repeated but always false. Liking a loudmouth is up to personal preference, but most people don't like a loudmouth who also comes across as a complete idiot and an asshole; that's why people didn't like Cam Newton. Woodley comes off as both an idiot and alienates like 75% of the UFC audience with his race baiting antics. Never mind the fact that his last 3 fights were the most boring fights of the year. Rampage, on the other hand, is not a smart guy by any means, as well as being a loudmouth, but he's also a funny guy who can make any situation fun, so people generally like him. He never alienated people and when he talked trash it was fun directed at his opponent, not straight up accusing the other guy's fans of being KKK members.

Tyron is just not an enjoyable guy. He has a permanent stink-face, he's incapable of being funny or relatable, can't hold a conversation, and just gives off bad vibes to people. It's really that simple.
 
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That shirt is ridiculous, I'm sure he regrets it.
 
Dumb. Has nothing to do with race, has everything to do with him being annoying and whiney
 
You and ur first world problems. If only everyone was born with a silver spoon

Congrats
 
tonysmasseuse said:
Where to even begin. It's all stupid. But his nugget:
"But Jon Jones can’t because he’s a drug addict and steroids and he’s running pregnant ladies over, so he comes off as human. He has problems and people can relate to that.”

Lmao. I've had my fair share of problems, being a drug addict, steroid cheat and running pregnant ladies over was never one of them. And hardly what people relate with 'human'.
Jesus christ, Din Thomas is dumber than a bag of limp dicks.
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You and ur first world problems. Congrats on working for nothing and being born with a silver spoon in ur mouth.
 
Xtal said:
Where does this myth of people not liking wealthy black men who speak out come from? Have they never turned on the television in the past 15 years? It's so often repeated but always false. Liking a loudmouth is up to personal preference, but most people don't like a loudmouth who also comes across as a complete idiot and an asshole; that's why people didn't like Cam Newton. Woodley comes off as both an idiot and alienates like 75% of the UFC audience with his race baiting antics. Never mind the fact that his last 3 fights were the most boring fights of the year. Rampage, on the other hand, is not a smart guy by any means, as well as being a loudmouth, but he's also a funny guy who can make any situation fun, so people generally like him. He never alienated people and when he talked trash it was fun directed at his opponent, not straight up accusing the other guy's fans of being KKK members.

Tyron is just not an enjoyable guy. He has a permanent stink-face, he's incapable of being funny or relatable, can't hold a conversation, and just gives off bad vibes to people. It's really that simple.
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My favorite kind of black guys are the rich ones that speak their minds.
 
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