Tyron Woodley vs. Stephen Thompson- My breakdown and prediction

Since TW has that charging in style, im curious to see if WB doesn't stay in that side stance and bust him with a side kick to the body as Woodley does come in. I'm looking forward to this fight and also the Cerrone fight.
 
Da fuck outta here with that shit, who gives a fuck if i have some grammatical errors, i`m portuguese and sometimes i make grammatical errors in my own language let alone in english


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Sherdog needs more threads like this. Can we get something for RDA vs Ferg since thats the next big fight.

Thanks man, if you guys want i can do it, that`s another fight that i`m really looking forward.
 
Good read...better than a lot of garbage threads on sherdog lately
 
Hi there fellow sherbros, in the past few days i have been analyzing both fighters and since this world welterweight championship is the fight that i`m the most excited and looking foward to i decided to share with you my thoughts on it and the way i see this thing going. It`s going to be a long read so in4 didn`t read comments that some you have ready to post ya goofs.


-Tyron Woodley is an absolute animal and in my opinion, the worst style to Stephen to deal with. Not only he is a very powerful striker, he has the confort to stand because he has also a very good wrestling base which makes him dangerous in the 2 dimensions were a fight can take place: standing and on the ground.


1) Setting up that brutal right hand and covering distance

-In all his fights, when the bell rings Woodley immediately backs up and gives up the center of the octagon to his opponent so in that way he can set him up and deliver his typical and signature move: the right hand.

How he does it? He way faster than the 99% of his opponents and so, he can close distances in a unique way that when his opponent is coming foward he trows 2 to 3 jabs to keep that false sense of distance and boom, closes in and gets in range quickly to deliver a BOMB on you.



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But that`s only his first move. In the first gif you can see that Koscheck realized that and barely escaped that right hand but Woodley wasn`t done yet, he lunges foward and because in his first attempt he didn`t have success he needs to trick you into that power shot again, how? Fainting the level change.

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He pumps the jab, faints the takedown and comes up with the uppercut followed by over hand right. The speed in those combos is so impressive, you simply cannot escape when he gets in range.


Speed, agility, explosiveness...That`s why Tyron can close on you like no other fighter, from there he has options, he can go full ofensive like i showed or he can implement his wrestling, which i believe will be is gameplan against Wonderboy, or at least try it.

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- The problem for him is that Wonderboy is not that type of fighter, he fights on that karaté side stance and doesn`t charge foward or gets in a basic, stiff position in the center of the octagon. In fact, all the points i talked about Woodley so far might be is downfall because in my opinion, plays right into Thompson`s counter striking game.

-Woodley`s right hand bomb has it`s flaws. To him being able to deliver with that power and speed he has to over commit, place all the strength to deliver in his lead leg and lunging forward to the attack. That leaves him vulnerable to the precision, timming and space manipulation of Wonderboy, great example is the first GIF that i will show you.

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-And this makes me go to my next point which is another flaw in Woodley`s game. When his opponents shut down his offensive (Rory did it brilliantly) he tends to get hesitant, backs up in a very stationary way which gives an opportunity to his opponent to get in and make him pay

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- He shows no moviment or ability to get out of this alley and reset. So how does Stephen deals with this? Let`s compare:


Defensively

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-When he presented with pressure and his opponent closing in, he is fast to recognize it and create the space to get a window to be out.
Hendricks is already to close, so what are we gonna do? Balance and lateral movement, he doesn`t even give Hendricks the opportunity to think about it because he is just so good in reading it and antecipating it.





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-Here he trows the 1\2 just to get enough space to find that window and escape. He is also excelent in fighting while backing up and has that sense of what is around him and were is his safe zone, the footwork is the key for him in this matter.




SelfreliantDistinctBunny.gif


Footwork, control the space and reset.




Offensively

-Now Wonderboy`s offensive is a thing of beauty, like i already said previously this is Anderson Silva level of striking. Let`s see how Wonderboy attacked when presented with a similar situation with a fighter backed up against the fence in a stiff, stationary way

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-Did you notice how Hendricks was put on the fence in the first place? He lunged foward and over commited on an over hand...Hummmm where did i see this before??


-if Woodley gets in range or trys to get into stand up battle Wonderboy will put on a clinic on him. Precision, timing, balance, angles, footwork, In & Out(manipulating and creating the so called dead space),dexterity this man has it all has showed in the next and final GIF`s.

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Prediction: Stephen Thompson by RD 3 TKO







Thank you for the patient and i hope you had a good reading, if you guys like it i`m considering doing a breakdown of Weidman vs Romero which is the other fight that is such an excelent and intriguing match up, i will analyze that fight and see if i can find any path for each fighter to win it because i have no idea who takes that one.

Espero que o Stephen Thompson ganhe, o Woodley é detestável.;)
 
Nice thread sherbro. I agree, think wonderboy takes the tko if he escapes the first round - which I expect him to.
Hi there fellow sherbros, in the past few days i have been analyzing both fighters and since this world welterweight championship is the fight that i`m the most excited and looking foward to i decided to share with you my thoughts on it and the way i see this thing going. It`s going to be a long read so in4 didn`t read comments that some you have ready to post ya goofs.


-Tyron Woodley is an absolute animal and in my opinion, the worst style to Stephen to deal with. Not only he is a very powerful striker, he has the confort to stand because he has also a very good wrestling base which makes him dangerous in the 2 dimensions were a fight can take place: standing and on the ground.


1) Setting up that brutal right hand and covering distance

-In all his fights, when the bell rings Woodley immediately backs up and gives up the center of the octagon to his opponent so in that way he can set him up and deliver his typical and signature move: the right hand.

How he does it? He way faster than the 99% of his opponents and so, he can close distances in a unique way that when his opponent is coming foward he trows 2 to 3 jabs to keep that false sense of distance and boom, closes in and gets in range quickly to deliver a BOMB on you.



tyron1.gif



woodleyc1.gif


4511245_o.gif


tumblr_ob6q2iYrA11up8ga8o1_540.gif



But that`s only his first move. In the first gif you can see that Koscheck realized that and barely escaped that right hand but Woodley wasn`t done yet, he lunges foward and because in his first attempt he didn`t have success he needs to trick you into that power shot again, how? Fainting the level change.

tyron2.gif



He pumps the jab, faints the takedown and comes up with the uppercut followed by over hand right. The speed in those combos is so impressive, you simply cannot escape when he gets in range.


Speed, agility, explosiveness...That`s why Tyron can close on you like no other fighter, from there he has options, he can go full ofensive like i showed or he can implement his wrestling, which i believe will be is gameplan against Wonderboy, or at least try it.

Woodley1_medium.gif



- The problem for him is that Wonderboy is not that type of fighter, he fights on that karaté side stance and doesn`t charge foward or gets in a basic, stiff position in the center of the octagon. In fact, all the points i talked about Woodley so far might be is downfall because in my opinion, plays right into Thompson`s counter striking game.

-Woodley`s right hand bomb has it`s flaws. To him being able to deliver with that power and speed he has to over commit, place all the strength to deliver in his lead leg and lunging forward to the attack. That leaves him vulnerable to the precision, timming and space manipulation of Wonderboy, great example is the first GIF that i will show you.

Stephen%2BThompson%2BKnockdowns%2BPatrick%2BCote%2BUFC%2B178.gif


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-And this makes me go to my next point which is another flaw in Woodley`s game. When his opponents shut down his offensive (Rory did it brilliantly) he tends to get hesitant, backs up in a very stationary way which gives an opportunity to his opponent to get in and make him pay

g6_RoA.gif



tumblr_n76z7tL0He1rofocqo1_400.gif


9l98i.gif


woodleyc3.gif




- He shows no moviment or ability to get out of this alley and reset. So how does Stephen deals with this? Let`s compare:


Defensively

ImprobableAromaticArmednylonshrimp.gif


-When he presented with pressure and his opponent closing in, he is fast to recognize it and create the space to get a window to be out.
Hendricks is already to close, so what are we gonna do? Balance and lateral movement, he doesn`t even give Hendricks the opportunity to think about it because he is just so good in reading it and antecipating it.





FoolishRadiantJunco.gif


-Here he trows the 1\2 just to get enough space to find that window and escape. He is also excelent in fighting while backing up and has that sense of what is around him and were is his safe zone, the footwork is the key for him in this matter.




SelfreliantDistinctBunny.gif


Footwork, control the space and reset.




Offensively

-Now Wonderboy`s offensive is a thing of beauty, like i already said previously this is Anderson Silva level of striking. Let`s see how Wonderboy attacked when presented with a similar situation with a fighter backed up against the fence in a stiff, stationary way

BoilingFrenchIrishredandwhitesetter.gif



-Did you notice how Hendricks was put on the fence in the first place? He lunged foward and over commited on an over hand...Hummmm where did i see this before??


-if Woodley gets in range or trys to get into stand up battle Wonderboy will put on a clinic on him. Precision, timing, balance, angles, footwork, In & Out(manipulating and creating the so called dead space),dexterity this man has it all has showed in the next and final GIF`s.

giphy.gif


ClumsyRepulsiveHorse.gif




Robert_Whittaker_vs._Stephen_Thompson_1.gif


AlarmingSoftBorer.gif






Prediction: Stephen Thompson by RD 3 TKO







Thank you for the patient and i hope you had a good reading, if you guys like it i`m considering doing a breakdown of Weidman vs Romero which is the other fight that is such an excelent and intriguing match up, i will analyze that fight and see if i can find any path for each fighter to win it because i have no idea who takes that one.
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Hi there fellow sherbros, in the past few days i have been analyzing both fighters and since this world welterweight championship is the fight that i`m the most excited and looking foward to i decided to share with you my thoughts on it and the way i see this thing going. It`s going to be a long read so in4 didn`t read comments that some you have ready to post ya goofs.


-Tyron Woodley is an absolute animal and in my opinion, the worst style to Stephen to deal with. Not only he is a very powerful striker, he has the confort to stand because he has also a very good wrestling base which makes him dangerous in the 2 dimensions were a fight can take place: standing and on the ground.

TRIGGERED !!! dat wacist !
 
I`m going to see some Weidman and Yoel fights and analyze them and tomorrow i might have a breakdown on that one. Dos Anjos and El Cucuy too.
 
It's so hard to tell with Woodley. Sometimes he looks awesome, sometimes he looks like crap. Sometimes he looks like crap and still gets the W because he has that power to end it quickly.
 
It's diffcult to train for Wonderboy's striking. Rory brought in an elite kickboxer and still couldn't get the W against him.

Wonderboy beats Woodley the same way he beat Hendricks.
 
Wonderboy will keep it technical all night long and will frustrate Woodley, I don't see Wood touching him at all.
 
It's diffcult to train for Wonderboy's striking. Rory brought in an elite kickboxer and still couldn't get the W against him.

Wonderboy beats Woodley the same way he beat Hendricks.
Woodley brought in Sage Northcutt to mimic Wonderboy and is even claiming Sage's a better version of Wonderboy lol. If he's having problems with Sage, then he's gonna get completely destroyed by Wonderboy. Woodley should be using Pettis, why in the world would he be using Northcutt lmao..
 
Since TW has that charging in style, im curious to see if WB doesn't stay in that side stance and bust him with a side kick to the body as Woodley does come in. I'm looking forward to this fight and also the Cerrone fight.

That`s a very good point, that side kick that he loves is there all night.
 
Great write up!

This will fight cant be anything but good. I favor WB, but Woodley is propably the fastest guy he has faced and at least on the surface it seems the problem others had with WB is getting to him.

It will be interesting to see who starts firing first and takes the center. If either fighter does. People also mentioned WB's sidekick and that could do some work.
 
I think that team would have been working on Wonderboy style for a long time. Pettis would be able to replicate that style better than Sage . That Sage training video is a red herring/possum shit. His videos before the Lawlor fight seemed like his training was weak and I dont think he lets the media know anything about his game plan.
 
Post fight thoughts:

-What an amazing fight, no surprise for what happened. Like i said Woodley is the worse match up for Wonderboy and i think he is the only guy who can beat him.

-Woodley also did the same exact mistakes like i said, he tends to get hesitant, backs up in a very stationary way which gives an opportunity to his opponent to get in and make him pay.
The thing is they were scared from weachother`s strenghts. Wonderboy was super tentative when he had Woodley against the fence and didn`t open up much, respecting Woodley`s power too much, and Woodley was super tentative of going inside that range were Wonderboy counters so well.

He got a takedown because he timed that left inside body kick perfectly, after that Wonderboy never tried that kick again and continued with that range which Woodley never had the opportunity to put Stephen on his back ever again. When Woodley got in range that counter right hook was always there like i expected but it only takes to be 1 second slower and boom that man catches you which was what happened in the fourth. Couldn`t believe Wonderboy survived that which we learn now that not only that man is an incredible fighter but also has the heart and resiliance of a champion which has equal important.


Phenomenal fight that had everything, tecnhique, power, heart...Immediate rematch.
 
Hi there fellow sherbros, in the past few days i have been analyzing both fighters and since this world welterweight championship is the fight that i`m the most excited and looking foward to i decided to share with you my thoughts on it and the way i see this thing going. It`s going to be a long read so in4 didn`t read comments that some you have ready to post ya goofs.


-Tyron Woodley is an absolute animal and in my opinion, the worst style to Stephen to deal with. Not only he is a very powerful striker, he has the confort to stand because he has also a very good wrestling base which makes him dangerous in the 2 dimensions were a fight can take place: standing and on the ground.


1) Setting up that brutal right hand and covering distance

-In all his fights, when the bell rings Woodley immediately backs up and gives up the center of the octagon to his opponent so in that way he can set him up and deliver his typical and signature move: the right hand.

How he does it? He way faster than the 99% of his opponents and so, he can close distances in a unique way that when his opponent is coming foward he trows 2 to 3 jabs to keep that false sense of distance and boom, closes in and gets in range quickly to deliver a BOMB on you.



tyron1.gif



woodleyc1.gif


4511245_o.gif


tumblr_ob6q2iYrA11up8ga8o1_540.gif



But that`s only his first move. In the first gif you can see that Koscheck realized that and barely escaped that right hand but Woodley wasn`t done yet, he lunges foward and because in his first attempt he didn`t have success he needs to trick you into that power shot again, how? Fainting the level change.

tyron2.gif



He pumps the jab, faints the takedown and comes up with the uppercut followed by over hand right. The speed in those combos is so impressive, you simply cannot escape when he gets in range.


Speed, agility, explosiveness...That`s why Tyron can close on you like no other fighter, from there he has options, he can go full ofensive like i showed or he can implement his wrestling, which i believe will be is gameplan against Wonderboy, or at least try it.

Woodley1_medium.gif



- The problem for him is that Wonderboy is not that type of fighter, he fights on that karaté side stance and doesn`t charge foward or gets in a basic, stiff position in the center of the octagon. In fact, all the points i talked about Woodley so far might be is downfall because in my opinion, plays right into Thompson`s counter striking game.

-Woodley`s right hand bomb has it`s flaws. To him being able to deliver with that power and speed he has to over commit, place all the strength to deliver in his lead leg and lunging forward to the attack. That leaves him vulnerable to the precision, timming and space manipulation of Wonderboy, great example is the first GIF that i will show you.

Stephen%2BThompson%2BKnockdowns%2BPatrick%2BCote%2BUFC%2B178.gif


AmpleFrailChanticleer.gif




-And this makes me go to my next point which is another flaw in Woodley`s game. When his opponents shut down his offensive (Rory did it brilliantly) he tends to get hesitant, backs up in a very stationary way which gives an opportunity to his opponent to get in and make him pay

g6_RoA.gif



tumblr_n76z7tL0He1rofocqo1_400.gif


9l98i.gif


woodleyc3.gif




- He shows no moviment or ability to get out of this alley and reset. So how does Stephen deals with this? Let`s compare:


Defensively

ImprobableAromaticArmednylonshrimp.gif


-When he presented with pressure and his opponent closing in, he is fast to recognize it and create the space to get a window to be out.
Hendricks is already to close, so what are we gonna do? Balance and lateral movement, he doesn`t even give Hendricks the opportunity to think about it because he is just so good in reading it and antecipating it.





FoolishRadiantJunco.gif


-Here he trows the 1\2 just to get enough space to find that window and escape. He is also excelent in fighting while backing up and has that sense of what is around him and were is his safe zone, the footwork is the key for him in this matter.




SelfreliantDistinctBunny.gif


Footwork, control the space and reset.




Offensively

-Now Wonderboy`s offensive is a thing of beauty, like i already said previously this is Anderson Silva level of striking. Let`s see how Wonderboy attacked when presented with a similar situation with a fighter backed up against the fence in a stiff, stationary way

BoilingFrenchIrishredandwhitesetter.gif



-Did you notice how Hendricks was put on the fence in the first place? He lunged foward and over commited on an over hand...Hummmm where did i see this before??


-if Woodley gets in range or trys to get into stand up battle Wonderboy will put on a clinic on him. Precision, timing, balance, angles, footwork, In & Out(manipulating and creating the so called dead space),dexterity this man has it all has showed in the next and final GIF`s.

giphy.gif


ClumsyRepulsiveHorse.gif




Robert_Whittaker_vs._Stephen_Thompson_1.gif


AlarmingSoftBorer.gif






Prediction: Stephen Thompson by RD 3 TKO







Thank you for the patient and i hope you had a good reading, if you guys like it i`m considering doing a breakdown of Weidman vs Romero which is the other fight that is such an excelent and intriguing match up, i will analyze that fight and see if i can find any path for each fighter to win it because i have no idea who takes that one.


tl;dr

All Woodley is, is a wrestler (who rarely even uses it) with an overhand. Quite literally, all you have to do is pressure him to the cage to win the fight.

Woodley quite literally didn't lose that fight off Thompson slipping. I expect much of the same next fight.
 
tl;dr

All Woodley is, is a wrestler (who rarely even uses it) with an overhand. Quite literally, all you have to do is pressure him to the cage to win the fight.

Woodley quite literally didn't lose that fight off Thompson slipping. I expect much of the same next fight.

He is a beast, he is so quick to close the distances and land that power shot. In the rematch i favor Wonderboy in a decision but Woodley surely will make his adjustements.
 
He is a beast, he is so quick to close the distances and land that power shot. In the rematch i favor Wonderboy in a decision but Woodley surely will make his adjustements.

No he won't. He fights the same way everytime. Wonderboy on the other hand probably will. If he does, he should win this time pretty decisively.
 
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