Law Tyranny In NY: Free Speech On Trial In America

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---NY cops go hands on on a comedian named Alex Stein who was speaking on 9/11 to the NYC city council.
---He goes off about them saying the air was safe and how many firefighters have died because of that lie.
---They try to shut him down as the conversation, apparently, was only about the port authority.
---Alex explains that it was the port authority who sold a guy named Silverstein the asbestos filled buildings that have now left a legacy of cancer.

"What about their families? No fathers at Christmas."



Ironically, the BBC just did a big piece on this exact thing...

It seems sometimes like no one cares about 'silly things' like the 1st Amendment. Look how quick people are here to call for bans and such. The concept of a cancel culture is part of the modern lexicon.

People will mock this guy, but we shouldn't forget the simple idea that free expression is the basis of a free society. Have we forgotten that our forefathers, who grew up in an authoritarian Monarchy knew that this was so important that they made it the number one thing? And if you go back and diligently research these men and their writings, you'll find something both beautiful, as well as inspirational, and dare I say edifying.

Good luck, Alex.
 
Not familiar with him. Sounds like his schtick is annoying the fuck out of people and then crying about it when they tell him to fuck off?

Stein became known for disrupting local government meetings, sometimes virtually, during the COVID-19 pandemic.[3] Stein said he began the disruptions after being frustrated by Dallas government unresponsiveness.[3] His disruption of various other local government meetings including New York City and Las Vegas has included rapping about vaccines and other topics.[1][3][11] He rapped about the Russo-Ukrainian War at a city council meeting in Plano, Texas.[12] D Magazine described Stein's city council pranks as "mostly harmless, if at times in poor taste" and said that publicity from the videos had gained Stein access to "larger right-wing platforms where he can spread misinformation, transphobia, and conspiracy theories".[1]

In June 2022, Stein began confronting politicians including Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Sen. Ted Cruz, Rep. Dan Crenshaw, Beto O'Rourke, Rep. Adam Kinzinger,[2][13][14][1] and Rep. Eric Swalwell.[third-party source needed] He was described as sexually harassing Ocasio-Cortez on the steps of the U.S. Capitol in July 2022 by calling her a "big booty Latina" and accusing her of wanting to "kill babies".[2] He told Kinzinger that he was a "d-bag".[2] He called Crenshaw a "globalist RINO"; Crenshaw compared Stein to an angry little boy in a tweet after the confrontation.[13]

In October 2022, an event featuring Stein and Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes that had been scheduled by the group Uncensored America at Penn State University was cancelled by the university at the last minute after protests and confrontations; Stein taunted protesters and was spit on by one.[15][16][17] In December 2022, Stein and a half-dressed man he called his "wife's boyfriend" broke into the lobby of Barstool Sports and were forcefully removed by security.[18]

Stein was a candidate for the Board of Trustees of the Highland Park Independent School District in Texas, in an election scheduled for May 6, 2023.[19] He received 1% of the vote, according to unofficial results.[20] In June 2023, Stein confronted Brittney Griner and her Phoenix Mercury teammates, recording himself yelling at her as she walked through the Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport.[21] In July 2023, Stein was scheduled to make his professional boxing debut against Iraqi TikToker MoDeen on the undercard of MF & DAZN: X Series 008 in Nashville, Tennessee, but the bout was called off after a press conference where Stein threw hot dogs at MoDeen, who is Muslim, and yelled "you love pork, right?". Stein later told The Sun that the hot dogs were turkey, not pork.[22][better source needed]

On February 8, 2023, Stein debuted Prime Time with Alex Stein on the American conservative media network Blaze Media.[6][5] In 2023 and 2024, he was in the reality web series Fishtank.[third-party source needed] Stein was emcee at the New York Young Republicans Club 2023 event headlined by Donald Trump.
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I'm not sure this is what our founding fathers were concerned about with the first amendment, but I wish him luck. He does sound like he has a lovely family: a wife and his wife's boyfriend. Very progressive of him.
 
Not familiar with him. Sounds like his schtick is annoying the fuck out of people and then crying about it when they tell him to fuck off? Stein became known for disrupting local government meetings, sometimes virtually, during the COVID-19 pandemic.[3] Stein said he began the disruptions after being frustrated by Dallas government unresponsiveness.[3] His disruption of various other local government meetings including New York City and Las Vegas has included rapping about vaccines and other topics.[1][3][11] He rapped about the Russo-Ukrainian War at a city council meeting in Plano, Texas.[12] D Magazine described Stein's city council pranks as "mostly harmless, if at times in poor taste" and said that publicity from the videos had gained Stein access to "larger right-wing platforms where he can spread misinformation, transphobia, and conspiracy theories".[1] In June 2022, Stein began confronting politicians including Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Sen. Ted Cruz, Rep. Dan Crenshaw, Beto O'Rourke, Rep. Adam Kinzinger,[2][13][14][1] and Rep. Eric Swalwell.[third-party source needed] He was described as sexually harassing Ocasio-Cortez on the steps of the U.S. Capitol in July 2022 by calling her a "big booty Latina" and accusing her of wanting to "kill babies".[2] He told Kinzinger that he was a "d-bag".[2] He called Crenshaw a "globalist RINO"; Crenshaw compared Stein to an angry little boy in a tweet after the confrontation.[13] In October 2022, an event featuring Stein and Proud Boys founder Gavin McInnes that had been scheduled by the group Uncensored America at Penn State University was cancelled by the university at the last minute after protests and confrontations; Stein taunted protesters and was spit on by one.[15][16][17] In December 2022, Stein and a half-dressed man he called his "wife's boyfriend" broke into the lobby of Barstool Sports and were forcefully removed by security.[18] Stein was a candidate for the Board of Trustees of the Highland Park Independent School District in Texas, in an election scheduled for May 6, 2023.[19] He received 1% of the vote, according to unofficial results.[20] In June 2023, Stein confronted Brittney Griner and her Phoenix Mercury teammates, recording himself yelling at her as she walked through the Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport.[21] In July 2023, Stein was scheduled to make his professional boxing debut against Iraqi TikToker MoDeen on the undercard of MF & DAZN: X Series 008 in Nashville, Tennessee, but the bout was called off after a press conference where Stein threw hot dogs at MoDeen, who is Muslim, and yelled "you love pork, right?". Stein later told The Sun that the hot dogs were turkey, not pork.[22][better source needed] On February 8, 2023, Stein debuted Prime Time with Alex Stein on the American conservative media network Blaze Media.[6][5] In 2023 and 2024, he was in the reality web series Fishtank.[third-party source needed] Stein was emcee at the New York Young Republicans Club 2023 event headlined by Donald Trump.[23] .... I'm not sure this is what our founding fathers were concerned about with the first amendment, but I wish him luck. He does sound like he has a lovely family: a wife and his wife's boyfriend. Very progressive of him.

Did you have to Google his name to find out if he's Republican or Democrat? If you found out he was a Democrat, you would defend his 1st amendment lawsuit and if you found out he was a Republican, you would try to Google any negative press about him and post it here and ignore his lawsuit?
 
Did you have to Google his name to find out if he's Republican or Democrat? If you found out he was a Democrat, you would defend his 1st amendment lawsuit and if you found out he was a Republican, you would try to Google any negative press about him and post it here and ignore his lawsuit?
Yes, that's the guy's gimmick on here. Rush to wikipedia to find out the guy's political affiliation to decide if he should have rights or not. Dude literally copy/pasted wikipedia as his argument. <lmao>
 
Did you have to Google his name to find out if he's Republican or Democrat? If you found out he was a Democrat, you would defend his 1st amendment lawsuit and if you found out he was a Republican, you would try to Google any negative press about him and post it here and ignore his lawsuit?
An asshole is an asshole regardless if there is an R or a D next to his name. Would you be shedding crocodile tears for this guy if he interrupted a Trump rally and Trump told people to rough him up? "Don't worry I'll pay the fines!" That was a rhetorical question.

Freedom of speech does not mean that individuals may say whatever they want, wherever they want, and people are obligated to sit patiently through the entirety of your diatribe. You can't just moonwalk down to the floor of congress and start ranting about fluoride in the water, then claim Nancy Pelosi is violating your free speech if you're removed, ya know? That wouldn't work. The time, location and manner of your speech is allowed to be reasonably regulated. Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of reach. Nobody is required to give you a microphone.
 
Yes, that's the guy's gimmick on here. Rush to wikipedia to find out the guy's political affiliation to decide if he should have rights or not. Dude literally copy/pasted wikipedia as his argument. <lmao>
Googling someone's name when you have no idea who they are is pretty standard stuff. So sorry I pointed out this guy is a shitty right-wing provocateur to add some missing context to the thread. Wah!
 
New York's political and judicial system is corrupt and frightening. It is a blue state i plan on avoiding.
 
City council meetings aren't open forums. That means that the city council has the right to control the forum. If they have a format and this individual disregards the format then city council is within their rights to have him removed. It's not about free speech.
 
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