Typical Breitbart contortion of the facts: Claims Obama dishonors Memorial Day

[MicroBrew]

Breitbart claims Obama dishonors Memorial day by visiting Hiroshima.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/28/obama-dishonors-memorial-day-hiroshima/

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For starters he visited Hiroshima on Friday. Memorial Day is on Monday. Even if you say it is Memorial day weekend, there are only soo many days in the week and it Friday isn't Monday.

The rightwing has been painting this as an Apology tour when Obama did not Apologize , but only only did he not apologize but he :

People in Asian countries that were brutalized by imperial Japan had warned that a presidential apology at Hiroshima would be inappropriate. Mr. Obama not only did not apologize, he made clear that Japan, despite a highly advanced culture, was to blame for the war, which “grew out of the same base instinct for domination or conquest that had caused conflicts among the simplest tribes.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/28/world/asia/obama-hiroshima-japan.html?_r=0

 

[lfd0311]

Breitbart claims Obama dishonors Memorial day by visiting Hiroshima.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/05/28/obama-dishonors-memorial-day-hiroshima/

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For starters he visited Hiroshima on Friday. Memorial Day is on Monday. Even if you say it is Memorial day weekend, there are only soo many days in the week and it Friday isn't Monday.

The rightwing has been painting this as an Apology tour when Obama did not Apologize , but only only did he not apologize but he :

The people at Breitbart are an embarrassment, but why did he visit Hiroshima on Memorial Day Weekend and talk about how terrible Nuclear Weapons are? I thought the timing was typical grandstanding, boneheaded Liberal nonsense that will needlessly offend a whole bunch of people, including me.

 

[Fawlty]

The easily offended social conservative justice warriors of the right will feel entitled to outrage regardless of what Obama does. He could literally commit suicide at the Memorial Monday with a note apologizing to Paul Ryan for being a Kenyan Muslim, and the right would probably demand an indictment of Joe Biden.

 

[MicroBrew]

The people at Breitbart are an embarrassment, but why did he visit Hiroshima on Memorial Day Weekend and talk about how terrible Nuclear Weapons are? I thought the timing was typical grandstanding, boneheaded Liberal nonsense that will needlessly offend a whole bunch of people, including me.

I don't think it is wrong; we have Memorial Day every year and this is the 1st time he did it. It's an opportunity to put more focus on the nuclear threat issue. How is it dishonoring?? He did not saying anything disrespeticng WW2 American G.I.s .

I just can't comprehend how talking about nuclear disarmament / reduction / threats on Memorial Day is disrespecting the fallen.

 

[lfd0311]

I don't think it is wrong; we have Memorial Day every year and this is the 1st time he did it. It's an opportunity to put more focus on the nuclear threat issue. How is it dishonoring?? He did not saying anything disrespeticng WW2 American G.I.s . It is pretty ridiculous to think talking about nuclear disarmament / reduction / threats on Memorial Day is disrespecting.

How many WWII vets are still walking around? How many of them carry physical wounds put there by the Japanese? For the Marines specifically and the Army Vets who served through the fighting in the Pacific theater dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki absolutely saved their lives. Hundreds of thousands of lives. My Grandfather was one of them. When the bombs were dropped he was 24 years old and had just been released from the hospital and returned to his unit after being wounded on Okinawa. It was the 4th wound he'd received. I am here, my dad, my kids, and all of my aunts and uncles are here because we used nuclear weapons. To go as a supplicant before the people we beat, on the Memorial Day Weekend, a Holiday that is what it is because of nobody other than WWII Veterans is yet another in a long line of completely tone deaf and frankly idiotic moves by this administration. They could have done this 3 weeks ago, or 3 weeks from now and there is literally no issue. But because they're pompus Liberal intellectuals they couldn't pass up a chance to posture and grandstand, to try to exploit something meaningful (that has no meaning to them) to get headlines. They never once stopped to think about what the f**k Memorial Day is and how and why it is such a meaningful holiday. It is the holiday it is because the WWII generation made it a major holiday.

 

[Tekk]

Conservatives have really taken their whining to a whole other level.

 

[MicroBrew]

How many WWII vets are still walking around? How many of them carry physical wounds put there by the Japanese? For the Marines specifically and the Army Vets who served through the fighting in the Pacific theater dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki absolutely saved their lives. Hundreds of thousands of lives. My Grandfather was one of them. When the bombs were dropped he was 24 years old and had just been released from the hospital and returned to his unit after being wounded on Okinawa. It was the 4th wound he'd received. I am here, my dad, my kids, and all of my aunts and uncles are here because we used nuclear weapons. To go as a supplicant before the people we beat, on the Memorial Day Weekend, a Holiday that is what it is because of nobody other than WWII Veterans is yet another in a long line of completely tone deaf and frankly idiotic moves by this administration. They could have done this 3 weeks ago, or 3 weeks from now and there is literally no issue. But because they're pompus Liberal intellectuals they couldn't pass up a chance to posture and grandstand, to try to exploit something meaningful (that has no meaning to them) to get headlines. They never once stopped to think about what the f**k Memorial Day is and how and why it is such a meaningful holiday. It is the holiday it is because the WWII generation made it a major holiday.

What does living WW2 vets have anything to do with Obama trying to move forward with concern about nuclear weapons and creating a safer future. Why are you taking this as slight against the vets. He didn't apologize, he didn't condemn the actions and infact as the NYTimes article says he even said Japan bears responsibility for their WW2 actions.

So on Memorial Day is one not supposed to campaign for peace or a safer world, is one supposed to be pro-war and bellicose only??

 

[44nutman]

The modem conservatives loves to whine about which means Breitbart gets clicks.

 

[lfd0311]

What does living WW2 vets have anything to do with Obama trying to move forward with concern about nuclear weapons and creating a safer future. Why are you taking this as slight against the vets. He didn't apologize, he didn't condemn the actions and infact as the NYTimes article says he even said Japan bears responsibility for their WW2 actions.

So on Memorial Day is one not supposed to campaign for peace or a safer world, is one supposed to be pro-war and bellicose only??

It is an insult to anyone who fought against the Japanese in World War II. 106,207 men died in combat against the Japanese in WWII. Many of the men who served beside them are still alive. Men who lost the best friends they have ever had in this world. The friends and families of some of those men are still living. Many women lost men they planned to marry, entire lives they never got to live with boys who never came home, lost to the Japanese. Many of those women are still alive. Talk to any WW2 vet about what Memorial Day was like prior to WW2. It wasn' t that big of a deal. It wasn't a major holliday. Memorial Day in the lifetime of our father's and Grandfathers has become the holliday it is 100% because of WW2 veterans. It is one of two generations in the history of our country to go to war as an entire generation. Memorial Day was the day that WW2 vets got togther in mass accross the country and remembered the men of their generation that didn't come home, that gave thier lives that this country could be what it could become. The tone deaf liberals of the Obama Adminstration picked the very weekend that is the most important day in these men's lives, the day in which they honor their fallen, to apologize to the very same people who killed them. He might not of said anyting overly that sounded like an apology, but actions speak louder than words.

 

[KILL KILL]

I fail to see how it is an insult.

 

[ILLogic]

I fail to see how it is an insult.

Because it's not. If he didn't visit Hiroshima they would've found another "thanks, Obama" moment to bitch about.

 

[Gervinho]

Conservatives have really taken their whining to a whole other level.

Remember when Hannity whined about Obama eating mustard with his burger....sad day

 

[Tekk]

I fail to see how it is an insult.

Its not , coconservatives were bitching before he even went that he was going to apologize when he didn't they simply move the goalposts and saying well he should have chosen other time.

Remember when Hannity whined about Obama eating mustard with his burger....sad day

2 days of coverage on fox news

 

[spin]

Don't give them the attention.



Theres no need to refute a bullshit source

 

[Tekk]

I heard the sane website has an article on obama being charged with treason, impeached and deported back to Kenya

 

[Space]

Looks like all the Year Zero misanthrope Dems have come out of the woodworks, and as usual, have nothing meaningful to add to the conversation.

 

[T-Bone]

Boo hoo... 140K perished in Hiroshima. Obama is not a smart man. Count the number if dead via nukes... and compare that to deaths by non-nuke by the Japanese. Sure, Obama can call for nuke free world... a noble stance. But nuke deaths are an infinitesimal amount compared to rogue regimes.

From the invasion of China in 1937 to the end of World War II, the Japanese military regime murdered near 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people, most probably almost 6,000,000Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war.

https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP3.HTM

Stalin, another bastard. That Japanese were bastards too. And if either the Japanese or the Nazis developed a nuclear weapon before us, we would be eating fish heads and rice, and bratwurst and sauerkraut. And you can bet your sweet ass nobody would have apologized for killing millions of Americans and Europeans via nuclear weapons.

I would have preferred Obama just not visit Hiroshima at all.

-T

 

[Devout Pessimist]

I don't think it is wrong; we have Memorial Day every year and this is the 1st time he did it. It's an opportunity to put more focus on the nuclear threat issue. How is it dishonoring?? He did not saying anything disrespeticng WW2 American G.I.s .

I just can't comprehend how talking about nuclear disarmament / reduction / threats on Memorial Day is disrespecting the fallen.

Obama is a fucking idiot.

Obama was very disrespectful to the millions who were killed by cruel Japanese colonial rule and the American soldiers who fought against an evil Japan. People constantly focus on how evil the Nazi's were, but the Japanese were just as brutal and savage if not more. America bombing the shit out of Japan ended the horrific Japanese reign of terror in China and Korea. If the atomic bombs had been dropped on the Nazis nobody would be saying anything, but because they are ignorant of the evil the Japanese were committing, they cry like little bitches.

National Review wrote an excellent article sticking it to Obama on his stupid speech.

The Hiroshima Bombing Was Right and Necessary

"Great evil requires a terrible response. It has ever been the case. The mushroom cloud over Hiroshima represented the beginning of a long peace. We must never be ashamed of our national resolve."


...Mr. President, in the image of the mushroom cloud, were are starkly reminded of the horrific evil of Imperial Japan and the ingenuity and resolve of the American people to defeat one of the most genocidal forces the world has ever seen.

Americans have short memories, and to the extent they think about World War II, they tend to think of Hitler and the Holocaust — and justifiably so. His attempt to exterminate an entire race of people was among the worst crimes in world history. But in remembering Hitler, we cannot forget Japan. It killed an estimated 14 million Chinese citizens in its invasion of China. And during the course of that invasion, its forces acted much like Hitler’s SS, conducting mass-scale rapes, grotesque human experimentation, and enslaving countless men, women, and children.

As American forces approached the Japanese mainland, the blood flow became a hemorrhage — with the Battle of Okinawa demonstrating the scale of the carnage to come. In slightly less than three months of combat, more than 20,000 Americans died, over 70,000 Japanese troops lost their lives, and up to one-third of Japanese civilians perished. In other words, that one battle was deadlier than the Hiroshima bombing.

Americans today simply can’t imagine the horror that an invasion of Japan would have unleashed. Our country had already lost more than 400,000 men, with hundreds of thousands more grievously injured, and we stood to perhaps match or exceed that total in the great battle for the mainland. Japanese losses would have numbered in the millions. Could we have withstood suffering on that scale? Would the carnage have caused us to relent?


Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435971/barack-obama-hiroshima-speech-was-wrong

 

[Strychnine]

I'm a veteran and I'm not seeing how this disrespected my brothers and sisters in arms. People that complain about this will put Donald Trump into the Presidency and when they reap what they sow, they'll exclaim... "How did this happen?!?!?"

 

[Devout Pessimist]

I'm a veteran and I'm not seeing how this disrespected my brothers and sisters in arms. People that complain about this will put Donald Trump into the Presidency and when they reap what they sow, they'll exclaim... "How did this happen?!?!?"

What are you referring to when you write, "How did this happen?" What do you expect to happen under a Trump presidency?


Few things illustrate the moral bankruptcy of modern times more than the fashionable habit of scorning America’s response to Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany. We were indispensable in extinguishing two great evils, and when it came time to rebuild, we rebuilt nations that have since become beacons of freedom and prosperity. Only fools believe we could have prevailed in a civilizational conflict without resorting to total war.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435971/barack-obama-hiroshima-speech-was-wrong