Two Russia/Trump stories break tonight.

So does this mean Obama was in collusion with Ansar al-Shia when he lied about Benghazi being caused by a YT video?

There has been no evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians. The optics are bad and Flynn was rightfully terminated and Sessions recused himself (although they should take it a little further as it appears he could have been lying under oath (depends on what your definition of "is" is).

I'm all for an investigation, but this is obviously Democrat's Benghazi supported by a spurned IC and fueled by our shitty media. just like to point out the hypocrisy. This is going to be a fun 4 years for independents.
 
So does this mean Obama was in collusion with Ansar al-Shia when he lied about Benghazi being caused by a YT video?

There has been no evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians. The optics are bad and Flynn was rightfully terminated and Sessions recused himself (although they should take it a little further as it appears he could have been lying under oath (depends on what your definition of "is" is).

I'm all for an investigation, but this is obviously Democrat's Benghazi supported by a spurned IC and fueled by our shitty media. just like to point out the hypocrisy. This is going to be a fun 4 years for independents.
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There's no proof, yet. There's tons of evidence. There's a difference.
 
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DEM RED FACES...

ALL OF THEIR MEETINGS WITH RUSSIAN AMBASSADOR...

PHOTO CONTRADICTS PELOSI STATEMENT...

SCHUMER AND THE RUSKIES...
 
So does this mean Obama was in collusion with Ansar al-Shia when he lied about Benghazi being caused by a YT video?

There has been no evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians. The optics are bad and Flynn was rightfully terminated and Sessions recused himself (although they should take it a little further as it appears he could have been lying under oath (depends on what your definition of "is" is).

I'm all for an investigation, but this is obviously Democrat's Benghazi supported by a spurned IC and fueled by our shitty media. just like to point out the hypocrisy. This is going to be a fun 4 years for independents.

The Benghazi investigation exposed the email issue to the public, and that was a huge political asset during the election. The Democracts are wise to push for a special prosecutor/independent investigation here.

Once the investigation starts, all the paper on Trump's lifetime of business activity threatens to go public. I doubt there's anything there to get him impeached, but I'm sure there's info that will make it much harder for him to get reelected.

It's politics as usual, anyone crying morality here is just playing it up for the big audience. But, it's still the right move for the opposition.
 
Then all Trump supporters, Republicans, at-righters, etc. have the right to come out and say "we told you so!!" and no one can say shit

But for now.... why not just cooperate fully with all investigations? Why lie and/or mislead people? If there's nothing to hide, wait until nothing comes up after the investigation and laugh at all the people doubting you. You will look like heroes!!

Wait, you jumped to the part about the investigation. Why should there be a investigation again?
 
Trump pissed at the WH handling of the Sessions fallout and recusal kicked Priebus and Bannon off of Marine-1 as it departed the WH to head down to Florida for another weekend golfing vacation.
 
The FISA courts are all like, "Nothing to see here, fuck off!"

This is picking up steam.
 
Wait, you jumped to the part about the investigation. Why should there be a investigation again?

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You guys are great. Discussion in this thread is 40 pages long, the whole story is all over the media. Plenty of government officials, including Republicans wondering about possible Russian connections, and some naive posters on sherdog are really trying to convince people a thorough investigation isn't warranted.

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I already have a sig bet with @Lead about this

you are free to do more with a different punishment/ reward date or just do an av bet instead. Just discuss it in the bet thread instead of here
 
Does anybody else find it funny that the root of all of this is that Hilary was exposed for being corrupt? It seems to me that all of this is just a deflection from the left to try and mask their fuck up.

Regardless of what is going on with Sessions there is still no proof of Russia interfering with the election.

On the other hand there is proof that CNN gave Hilary the questions to a debate and that the DNC unethically forced Sanders out in favor of Hilary.

Hillary lost, get over it. (you whiney little bitch)
 
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You guys are great. Discussion in this thread is 40 pages long, the whole story is all over the media. Plenty of government officials, including Republicans wondering about possible Russian connections, and some naive posters on sherdog are really trying to convince people a thorough investigation isn't warranted.

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Still waiting.
 
Definitely not. Paul Ryan hates his guts. They're just waiting for an excuse to drop him. Just like with Jeff Sessions... you didn't find it curious how quickly Republicans called for his recusal once a peep came out about him simply meeting with a Russian? They know what's coming. They have to pretend they're on Trump's side for now... until they can side 'with the country' 'facing overwhelming evidence' 'because they were forced to' and throw him out.

Who is going to oust Trump? Impeachment and conviction from Congress seems very unlikely. Using section 4 of the 25th Amendment seems more so.
 
From the few things I've seen Al Franken say on TV, he seems like one of the very few good congressmen. I think he used to be on Saturday Night Live, but you'd never guess.
 
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