I think you're blowing shit way out of proportion with any effect Facebook "propoganda" had. Trump was the only outsider vote available because they fucked Bernie. and because of that I don't really want to hear shit about Hillary and fixed elections unless we are talking about primaries.
Ataturk himself was an authoritarian leader who doomed Turkey to rule by deep state and if anything Erdogan has become more and more like Ataturk in the latter part of his reign.
Erdogan is an Islamist while Ataturk was secular no? That's what I've gathered from Erdogan's critics that he is taking Turkey back to it's more Islamic roots.
That's the very simplified version which isn't wrong but ignores a lot of important details. Ataturk believed in secularism along the French lines which means being anticlerical rather than the US approach which is more neutral towards religion. He also believed in ethnonationalism(hence oppression of Kurds and denial of Armenian genocide) as well as statism(dominance of state owned enterprises within economy) and the supremacy of the military over civilian government(hence the history of coups). Erdogan's reforms initially were very good in that he opened up space for Kurds in regards to language rights, loosened restrictions on religious expression(e.g allowing hjiab in universities), liberalized the economy which led to a decade of solid growth, and established civilian control over the military(hence the failed coup of 2016). All those things are good actually but that was mostly in his first decade or so in power.
He literally was just a troll. I remember the day he started his schtick. He used to have a different name I think and changed it to QueenB after the Meryl Streep “not the mixed martial arts” speech and start trolling the heavies about that. He had also changed his avatar to her giving the speech. I don’t know if he was actually conservative or not but I have seen other people say he posted conservative before he changed his persona.
Lol, yeah, you imbecile. It’s the country that consistently violates treaties and drives its neighbors t seek closer relations with EU and NATO.
Literally the dumbest thing I’ve read all day. Only a total fucking idiot would think that Russian-funded separatists are some sort of freedom fighters. Did Zelenskyy also force the Russians to shoot down a civilian airliner?
The main difference is that the left loves Ataturk because post-9/11 Turk’s were the poster boy of secular, tolerant (but not tolerant to the religious) Muslims living in a democracy.
Yea It's sarcasm. This is horrible news and keeps the tensions with neighboring states, like Greece, high. It wasn't necessarily under Erdogan that Greece and Turkey had routine, mock aerial and naval skirmishes but they are certainly more frequent. Also, with the eastern Mediterranean dispute along with insane territorial claims like in the picture below, those skirmishes are starting to get a little more worrisome with Erdogan at the helm.
Yea It's sarcasm. This is horrible news and keeps the tensions with neighboring states, like Greece, high. It wasn't necessarily under Erdogan that Greece and Turkey had routine, mock aerial and naval skirmishes but they are certainly more frequent. Also, with the eastern Mediterranean dispute along with insane territorial claims like in the picture below, those skirmishes are starting to get a little more worrisome with Erdogan at the helm.
Anything other than Russian submission is being a western puppet.
