Trump's War on the Press: American Trust in the Press Lowest in Decades

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Trump supporters never really said anything when Trump promised to undo the first amendment during the campaign (nor did they freak out when he agreed with Hillary's gun control policy during a debate) and now almost half of Republicans are against the first amendment.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/americans-views-media-2018-08-07

Americans' Views on the Media
Ipsos poll shows almost a third of the American people agree that the news media is the enemy

Washington, D.C., August 7, 2018 -Even if they are not “fake news” or “the enemy of the people”, it is clear that the reputation of the news media is under siege. According to the General Social Survey, the number of Americans with some or a great deal of trust in the press has dropped 30 percentage points since the late 1970s. Ipsos recently conducted a survey with the American public to better understand how Americans currently view the press and public support for efforts to restrict journalism. While we found that the large majority of Americans support the concept of the 1st Amendment, there are worrying signs that freedom of the press might be conditional to many people.

First off, the good news. The large majority of Americans, 85%, agree that the “Freedom of the press is essential for American democracy.” Additionally, two-thirds (68%) say that “reporters should be protected from pressure from government or big business interests.” Majorities of both Democrats and Republicans agree with these two statements signaling deep support for the concept of freedom of the press.


Some of the limits of public support for freedom of the press are made stark with a quarter of Americans (26%) saying they agree “the president should have the authority to close news outlets engaged in bad behavior,” including a plurality of Republicans (43%). Likewise, most Americans (72%) think “it should be easier to sue reporters who knowingly publish false information.”


Unanimity starts to break down as we more grounded questions. While a plurality – 46% -- agree “most news outlets try their best to produce honest reporting”, there are very stark splits by the partisan identification of the respondent with most Democrats (68%) generally believing in the good intent of journalists, but comparatively few Republicans (29%). And when we ask questions with specific partisan cues, the political split is very wide. For instance, 80% of Republicans but only 23% of Democrats agree that “most news outlets have a liberal bias,” and 79% of Republicans but only 11% of Democrats agree, “the mainstream media treats President Trump unfairly. Returning to President Trump’s views on the press, almost a third of the American people (29%) agree with the idea that “the news media is the enemy of the American people,” including a plurality of Republicans (48%).

A final statistic is somewhat reassuring, only 13% of Americans agree that “President Trump should close down mainstream news outlets, like CNN, the Washington Post and the New York Times.” Here less than a quarter of Republicans (23%) agree along with fewer than one in ten Democrats (8%).

About this Study
These are findings from an Ipsos poll conducted August 3-6, 2018. For the survey, a sample of roughly 1,003 adults age 18+ from the continental U.S., Alaska and Hawaii was interviewed online in English. The sample includes 323 Democrats, 363 Republicans, and 207 Independents.

The sample for this study was randomly drawn from Ipsos’s online panel (see link below for more info on “Access Panels and Recruitment”), partner online panel sources, and “river” sampling (see link below for more info on the Ipsos “Ampario Overview” sample method) and does not rely on a population frame in the traditional sense. Ipsos uses fixed sample targets, unique to each study, in drawing sample. After a sample has been obtained from the Ipsos panel, Ipsos calibrates respondent characteristics to be representative of the U.S. Population using standard procedures such as raking-ratio adjustments. The source of these population targets is U.S. Census 2013 American Community Survey data. The sample drawn for this study reflects fixed sample targets on demographics. Post-hoc weights were made to the population characteristics on gender, age, race/ethnicity, region, and education.

Statistical margins of error are not applicable to online polls. All sample surveys and polls may be subject to other sources of error, including, but not limited to coverage error and measurement error. Where figures do not sum to 100, this is due to the effects of rounding. The precision of Ipsos online polls is measured using a credibility interval. In this case, the poll has a credibility interval of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points for all respondents. Ipsos calculates a design effect (DEFF) for each study based on the variation of the weights, following the formula of Kish (1965). This study had a credibility interval adjusted for design effect of the following (n=1,000, DEFF=1.5, adjusted Confidence Interval=+/-5 percentage points).

The poll also has a credibility interval plus or minus 6.2 percentage points for Democrats, plus or minus 5.9 percentage points for Republicans, and plus or minus 7.8 percentage points for Independents.

Re: bold - Alex Jones is in trouble if the people ever take back power.
 
I missed the part of the article that shows half of republicans wanting to destroy free speech.

Only 13% (R) and 8% (D) support stronger libel laws. The rest just don't trust the media. Your title is FAKE NEWS, Joe...
 
Trump supporters never really said anything when Trump promised to undo the first amendment during the campaign (nor did they freak out when he agreed with Hillary's gun control policy during a debate) and now almost half of Republicans are against the first amendment.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/americans-views-media-2018-08-07



Re: bold - Alex Jones is in trouble if the people ever take back power.
Ohhhh, poor Dredd, the right and the left are against free speech. It is this paradigm you reside in that is against free speech. Today actually, free speech has been under attack from the PC culture pushed by "the left." But, you don't see it. I know.

And why do you keep promoting Alex Jones? What do you get out of it? No one with a mind gives a damn about him, it's the implications from the PC world's attacks on his speech that we need to be concerned with. Who is next? First they came for Alex, right?
 
I missed the part of the article that shows half of republicans wanting to destroy free speech.

Only 13% (R) and 8% (D) support stronger libel laws. The rest just don't trust the media. Your title is FAKE NEWS, Joe...

I put it in bold, just for you. How did you miss that?
 
More pathetic straw grabbing.
I missed the part of the article that shows half of republicans wanting to destroy free speech.

Only 13% (R) and 8% (D) support stronger libel laws. The rest just don't trust the media. Your title is FAKE NEWS, Joe...

And these are only libel laws, it's not a call for censorship necessarily. It's a call for responsibility. It's a slippery slope for sure but not what the left wants it to be. The left is the true anti free speech crowd who supports hate speech laws and all kinds of censorship.

In the old days it was conservatives censoring nudity and course language. Today it's the left wanting to censor literally everything that challenges their ideology.
 
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No one wants free speech. Too many feels now.
 
Most polls actually predicted the election within their margin for error. Polls are getting better, not worse.

538 had Trump over 30% chance to win on election day.

So was it the MSM that falsely reported the polls? Because part of the gargantuan culture and reality shock the left just took was from how misled they were. Watch the election night footage and campaign footage from just about anywhere weeks prior. Almost all of the reported polls from everywhere were showing easy clear Hillary victories. It was amazing actually, the smug laughter it's like they had it in the bag lol

Lol........
 
So was it the MSM that falsely reported the polls? Because part of the gargantuan culture and reality shock the left just took was from how misled they were. Watch the election night footage and campaign footage from just about anywhere weeks prior. Almost all of the reported polls from everywhere were showing easy clear Hillary victories. It was amazing actually, the smug laughter it's like they had it in the bag lol

Lol........

Nope, they accurately reported the polls, including the margin of error.

Hope this helps.
 
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Did you actually like try to fucking read it my dude?

It’s possible that there is some late movement toward him that the polls haven’t fully picked up on. Good pollsters often survey voters over multiple days, so if movement occurred very late in that time frame it’s possible that public pollsters won’t fully detect it before Nov. 8.

The polls could also systematically underrate Trump by misestimating the composition of the electorate. In the 2014 Senate elections, polls in the final week underestimated Republican candidates by about three points on average. And in the 2012 presidential election, national polls showed Obama leading by one point, and he won the popular vote by four points (although state polls were more accurate than national polls in that race). So it’s possible that the polls could be off and Trump could win the presidency. But it’s impossible to know ahead of time if the polls will err -- and if they do err, it’s impossible to forecast whether they might be biased toward Trump or Clinton.

In other words, Clinton has kept Trump from catching up to her in the polls so she is still the favorite to win -- but there is some uncertainty.


Talk about a self-own.

<Dany07>

 
Did you actually like try to fucking read it my dude?

It’s possible that there is some late movement toward him that the polls haven’t fully picked up on. Good pollsters often survey voters over multiple days, so if movement occurred very late in that time frame it’s possible that public pollsters won’t fully detect it before Nov. 8.

The polls could also systematically underrate Trump by misestimating the composition of the electorate. In the 2014 Senate elections, polls in the final week underestimated Republican candidates by about three points on average. And in the 2012 presidential election, national polls showed Obama leading by one point, and he won the popular vote by four points (although state polls were more accurate than national polls in that race). So it’s possible that the polls could be off and Trump could win the presidency. But it’s impossible to know ahead of time if the polls will err -- and if they do err, it’s impossible to forecast whether they might be biased toward Trump or Clinton.

In other words, Clinton has kept Trump from catching up to her in the polls so she is still the favorite to win -- but there is some uncertainty.


Talk about a self-own.

<Dany07>

I'm continuing to read more links, still feeling good about what I said. The polls were wrong, for what reason doesnt matter but as you pointed out there were several factors.

Many experts, modelled data and polls were wrong this time, and it resulted in many humiliated and shocked people.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/polls-wrong-trump-clinton-why-2016-11

"To state the obvious, this is not random sampling error because it was shared across all pollsters in the same direction. This is some kind of large systematic error, far larger than typically occurs in a presidential election year," Wang said.

For the second-consecutive election cycle, the polling and prognostication industry is reckoning with how it got it wrong - and why we're talking about a President-elect Donald Trump when virtually all available data pointed to President-elect Hillary Clinton.
 
No one wants free speech. Too many feels now.

Bingo buddy

Im seeing plenty of people on all sides that have major problems with people expressing views they dont agree with and trying to find ever more devious ways to interrupt them

Id guess its more like 50 percent of the country than 50 percent to any specific party

The internet makes people fucking crazy and able to form a mob for any thing you can think of
 
During the Bush Cheney years I would have agreed with you, but the posturing from the new left is what concerns me these days.
 
I'm continuing to read more links, still feeling good about what I said. The polls were wrong, for what reason doesnt matter but as you pointed out there were several factors.

Many experts, modelled data and polls were wrong this time, and it resulted in many humiliated and shocked people.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.businessinsider.com/polls-wrong-trump-clinton-why-2016-11

Nope. You're wrong.

Every major poll was within the margin of error.

The election was decided by 20,000 votes in two states my dude.
 
Until I hear conservatives call for misgendering as hate speech or against the law liberals will always be well ahead in that category.
 
Well, at least this is distracting people from the gun control debate.
 
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