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Trump's National Guard border deployment

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'Governors react to Trump's National Guard border deployment'

Link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/g...-border-deployment/ar-AAvwz2V?ocid=spartanntp

I don't think this is going to work. Does Trump know how the National Guard works? The key differences between National Guard troops being ordered to Active Duty by the state, and their deployment by the federal government, are who foots the bill and who’s in control. When Guard units are called up to serve in overseas combat missions, the personnel are federally funded and under federal command and control. Usually this is to augment the active forces in war. Disaster relief duty is only a few weeks or months long.

Each state has its own National Guard force under the jurisdiction of the state governor. These are mostly reservists with full-time civilian jobs. How long would they be deployed for? A 12 month overseas deployment already causes enough issues with work and family. By federal law their jobs are secured for the duration of the deployment, but things don't always work that way. What company wants to loose a key employee for 12 months? They usually find a way to bypass federal law and hire someone else.

I guarantee you that the state is not flipping the bill for this one. Border security? No, don't see it happening. Plus how popular of an idea do you think that will be for the people of that state? A federal call up to augment Active Duty forces in an all volunteer military during time of war is one thing. Border patrol is something entirely different. U.S. law limits what the troops can do. Federal law prohibits the military from being used to enforce laws, meaning troops cannot actually participate in immigration enforcement.
 
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He did say, he wants the army there at first. Now he is switching to the Nat Guard. Technically, the army is suppose to follow his orders. Who or what is stopping him from using army and marines? Plus we have military bases that are relatively close to the borders.
 
It'll work just like a deployment. Put the Guard weekend warriors on 6month active duty shifts just like a deployment.

They'll run security forces augmentee training beforehand for a month and the ones who already have the training will be shipped down to the border for good ole EC duty.
 
I knew this was coming. Long overdue if you ask me.

Within these past 3 years I’ve served (securing the borders?) in Poland, Germany, Spain, and Korea. Being sent to our own southern states will be a nice change of pace.
 
Don’t worry TS, we have republican states that actually care about America, they’ll do the job.
 
I knew this was coming. Long overdue if you ask me.

Within these past 3 years I’ve served (securing the borders?) in Poland, Germany, Spain, and Korea. Being sent to our own southern states will be a nice change of pace.



Thanks for your service!!!
 
'Governors react to Trump's National Guard border deployment'

Link: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/g...-border-deployment/ar-AAvwz2V?ocid=spartanntp

I don't think this is going to work. Does Trump know how the National Guard works? The key differences between National Guard troops being ordered to Active Duty by the state, and their deployment by the federal government, are who foots the bill and who’s in control. When Guard units are called up to serve in overseas combat missions, the personnel are federally funded and under federal command and control. Usually this is to augment the active forces in war. Disaster relief duty is only a few weeks or months long.

Each state has its own National Guard force under the jurisdiction of the state governor. These are mostly reservists with full-time civilian jobs. How long would they be deployed for? A 12 month overseas deployment already causes enough issues with work and family. By federal law their jobs are secured for the duration of the deployment, but things don't always work that way. What company wants to loose a key employee for 12 months? They usually find a way to bypass federal law and hire someone else.

I guarantee you that the state is not flipping the bill for this one. Border security? No, don't see it happening. Plus how popular of an idea do you think that will be for the people of that state? A federal call up to augment Active Duty forces in an all volunteer military during time of war is one thing. Border patrol is something entirely different. U.S. law limits what the troops can do. Federal law prohibits the military from being used to enforce laws, meaning troops cannot actually participate in immigration enforcement.
I’m sure Trump knows about the different capabilities, especially when it comes to law enforcement, when the national guard is federalize.
But Bush II and Obama did the same thing I believe.
 
I think some of those border militia groups should be legalized and regulated as an auxiliary force. I know some of you might be concerned about racists in their ranks, but that's precisely what training and regulations are there for. Allowing them to roam around currently is a danger to all.
 
It'll work just like a deployment. Put the Guard weekend warriors on 6 month active duty shifts just like a deployment.

Federal money to fund the National Guard. And who approves that? Congress. Trump can wish all he wants, when it comes time to activate reserve troops and fund them, it is a whole other story. Plus, state governors and congressmen want to get re-elected. If the issue is not a popular one in their state, how do you think they will vote?

Why not use that federal money to hire more security. More jobs to be created. Also, this is not the National Guard from Texas and other border states. Trump is talking all 50 states pitching in. Yeah, that is going to go over well like a 'shit cake'.
 
Federal money to fund the National Guard. And who approves that? Congress. Trump can wish all he wants, when it comes time to activate reserve troops and fund them, it is a whole other story. Plus, state governors and congressmen want to get re-elected. If the issue is not a popular one in their state, how do you think they will vote?

Why not use that federal money to hire more security. More jobs to be created. Also, this is not the National Guard from Texas and other border states. Trump is talking all 50 states pitching in. Yeah, that is going to go over well like a 'shit cake'.
Pull some troops out of many locations besides certain spots in the ME and maybe Norway, use those troops for border security. Many that I know in the military as guardsmen serve in many places that might not be as strategic as they once were.
 
Don’t worry guys, the NG will just hand out Capri suns and orange slices to the “refugees”.
 
It's fucking stupid , but he's gotta do something to make it seem like his wall is going to become a reality someday.
 
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