International Trump: US control of Greenland is absolute nescessity

This whole thing is beyond stupid.

If the US wants to increase its military presence in Greenland, it can. If it wants to build radar infrastructure to watch the Russians, it is welcome to do so. However, subsequent US administrations have been gradually reducing the US presence in Greenland over the course of many years.

If the US wants to invest in mining for rare earths and minerals currently frozen beneath the artic tundra, all it has to do is make a reasonable offer to the Greenlandic government.

I can't see what the else US could possibly want from Greenland. Everything it wants is already on the table, but it hasn't been reaching out for it, because these things are expensive to do.

There is no desire in the Greelandic population to become a territory under the US (and with just 50k people, it's hard to see them becoming a state). The relationship between Denmark and Greenland has its problems, but it goes back hundreds of years: our societies and populations are deeply intertwined (18.000 people of Greenlandic descent live in Denmark against a population of 56.000 in Greenland itself, thousands of Danish people live in Greenland too).

Over time, Greenland may become more independent and take more responsibility for its own destiny, but, again, with just 50.000 people it will probably always need to partner with Denmark to fulfill many of its societal needs. Switching allegiance to the US is unlikely to be a better deal and the people of Greenland are very aware of this.

Trump is creating a lose-lose-lose scenario. Bad for the US, Greenland and Denmark - three countries that, all things considered, have cooporated pretty well through the years.
 
Vergilius said:
This whole thing is beyond stupid.

If the US wants to increase its military presence in Greenland, it can. If it wants to build radar infrastructure to watch the Russians, it is welcome to do so. However, subsequent US administrations have been gradually reducing the US presence in Greenland over the course of many years.

If the US wants to invest in mining for rare earths and minerals currently frozen beneath the artic tundra, all it has to do is make a reasonable offer to the Greenlandic government.

I can't see what the else US could possibly want from Greenland. Everything it wants is already on the table, but it hasn't been reaching out for it, because these things are expensive to do.

There is no desire in the Greelandic population to become a territory under the US (and with just 50k people, it's hard to see them becoming a state). The relationship between Denmark and Greenland has its problems, but it goes back hundreds of years: our societies and populations are deeply intertwined (18.000 people of Greenlandic descent live in Denmark against a population of 56.000 in Greenland itself, thousands of Danish people live in Greenland too).

Over time, Greenland may become more independent and take more responsibility for its own destiny, but, again, with just 50.000 people it will probably always need to partner with Denmark to fulfill many of its societal needs. Switching allegiance to the US is unlikely to be a better deal and the people of Greenland are very aware of this.

Trump is creating a lose-lose-lose scenario. Bad for the US, Greenland and Denmark - three countries that, all things considered, have cooporated pretty well through the years.
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The one thing he's accomplished, apparently, is to cause Greenland to set aside pretty much all talk of independence for now. He's pushed them closer to Denmark rather than luring them away.
 
Siver! said:
So what's happened via Greenland that's made it "bad for the entire world"?

I feel like I've missed something here, but as far as I can tell the only threat to Greenland appears to come from the United States?

America want the rare minerals. China already mine there. Let's pretend it's not about that though: let's discuss the severe threats to global security revolving around Greenland.
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White walkers.
 
MrShady said:
Team Vance, Usha and USA looking like absolute clowns trying to have a photo-op trip in Greenland, having to cancel their itinerary and only going to their base there 😂
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"The American consulate has thus tried to set up a meeting with the Nuuk Art Museum. But the Americans ended up having to drop that idea.

The museum said that it could not offer the delegation exclusive access. If they wanted to visit, they would have to buy tickets on the same terms as all other guests during opening hours.

This is according to Nivi Christensen, museum director at the Nuuk Art Museum."
 
Vergilius said:
This whole thing is beyond stupid.

If the US wants to increase its military presence in Greenland, it can. If it wants to build radar infrastructure to watch the Russians, it is welcome to do so. However, subsequent US administrations have been gradually reducing the US presence in Greenland over the course of many years.

If the US wants to invest in mining for rare earths and minerals currently frozen beneath the artic tundra, all it has to do is make a reasonable offer to the Greenlandic government.

I can't see what the else US could possibly want from Greenland. Everything it wants is already on the table, but it hasn't been reaching out for it, because these things are expensive to do.

There is no desire in the Greelandic population to become a territory under the US (and with just 50k people, it's hard to see them becoming a state). The relationship between Denmark and Greenland has its problems, but it goes back hundreds of years: our societies and populations are deeply intertwined (18.000 people of Greenlandic descent live in Denmark against a population of 56.000 in Greenland itself, thousands of Danish people live in Greenland too).

Over time, Greenland may become more independent and take more responsibility for its own destiny, but, again, with just 50.000 people it will probably always need to partner with Denmark to fulfill many of its societal needs. Switching allegiance to the US is unlikely to be a better deal and the people of Greenland are very aware of this.

Trump is creating a lose-lose-lose scenario. Bad for the US, Greenland and Denmark - three countries that, all things considered, have cooporated pretty well through the years.
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Trump told us why yesterday.

He just thinks the borders of US will look nicer with Greenland and Canada as part of the US like this is a game of Hearts of Iron 4.
 
lsa said:
"The American consulate has thus tried to set up a meeting with the Nuuk Art Museum. But the Americans ended up having to drop that idea.

The museum said that it could not offer the delegation exclusive access. If they wanted to visit, they would have to buy tickets on the same terms as all other guests during opening hours.

This is according to Nivi Christensen, museum director at the Nuuk Art Museum."
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Vance : But did you even thank us once for coming here?

Greenland: Go. Fuck. Yourself.
 
Rational Poster said:
Trump told us why yesterday.

He just thinks the borders of US will look nicer with Greenland and Canada as part of the US like this is a game of Hearts of Iron 4.
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The other day, I heard one person liken it to him playing Monopoly, wanting to put hotels in Gaza, treating sovereign nations like properties he can buy, having a get out of jail free card, and so on; it's especially apt because the game was invented to help people learn about the negative consequences of capitalism.
 
Looks like Greenland is going to get some freedom soon

Vance:

Denmark ‘has not done a good job by the people of Greenland​

 
Boxiana said:
Looks like Greenland is going to get some freedom soon

Vance:

Denmark ‘has not done a good job by the people of Greenland​

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You know, Denmark COULD probably do a better job with security in Greenland. However, so could the US, which has reduced its presence across the past decades - the US is free to step up its engagement anytime.

What really sticks in my craw is that Denmark has joined the US as an ally in so many of its past conflicts: Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia the list goes on. If we go by capita, just as many Danish soldiers have given their lives for American causes as American soldiers... and this is the reward.

I know Vance has to ramp up his rhetoric to please his boss, but he should be ashamed of himself. He's a former soldier himself after all.
 
Vergilius said:
You know, Denmark COULD probably do a better job with security in Greenland. However, so could the US, which has reduced its presence across the past decades - the US is free to step up its engagement anytime.

What really sticks in my craw is that Denmark has joined the US as an ally in so many of its past conflicts: Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia the list goes on. If we go by capita, just as many Danish soldiers have given their lives for American causes as American soldiers... and this is the reward.

I know Vance has to ramp up his rhetoric to please his boss, but he should be ashamed of himself. He's a former soldier himself after all.
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Vance is just as big of a piece of a shit as Trump is.

Did you not see the Signal texts?

In private, he called all of Europe PATHETIC in all caps. lmao
 
Vergilius said:
You know, Denmark COULD probably do a better job with security in Greenland. However, so could the US, which has reduced its presence across the past decades - the US is free to step up its engagement anytime.

What really sticks in my craw is that Denmark has joined the US as an ally in so many of its past conflicts: Iraq, Afghanistan, Bosnia the list goes on. If we go by capita, just as many Danish soldiers have given their lives for American causes as American soldiers... and this is the reward.

I know Vance has to ramp up his rhetoric to please his boss, but he should be ashamed of himself. He's a former soldier himself after all.
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He carried a Dictaphone and a camera, a REMF
 
Vergilius said:
This whole thing is beyond stupid.

If the US wants to increase its military presence in Greenland, it can. If it wants to build radar infrastructure to watch the Russians, it is welcome to do so. However, subsequent US administrations have been gradually reducing the US presence in Greenland over the course of many years.

If the US wants to invest in mining for rare earths and minerals currently frozen beneath the artic tundra, all it has to do is make a reasonable offer to the Greenlandic government.

I can't see what the else US could possibly want from Greenland. Everything it wants is already on the table, but it hasn't been reaching out for it, because these things are expensive to do.

There is no desire in the Greelandic population to become a territory under the US (and with just 50k people, it's hard to see them becoming a state). The relationship between Denmark and Greenland has its problems, but it goes back hundreds of years: our societies and populations are deeply intertwined (18.000 people of Greenlandic descent live in Denmark against a population of 56.000 in Greenland itself, thousands of Danish people live in Greenland too).

Over time, Greenland may become more independent and take more responsibility for its own destiny, but, again, with just 50.000 people it will probably always need to partner with Denmark to fulfill many of its societal needs. Switching allegiance to the US is unlikely to be a better deal and the people of Greenland are very aware of this.

Trump is creating a lose-lose-lose scenario. Bad for the US, Greenland and Denmark - three countries that, all things considered, have cooporated pretty well through the years.
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My opinion? Trump is one of those retard kids who thought Russia is America on a map because Russia is the biggest country in the globe.

He is obsessed with a legacy and thinks that changing the American map by adding more territorial land or an State would put him up there with the most remembered presidents of America.

He just wants another Alaska he can put on a map of America, the same stupid reasoning behind trying to make Canada an US state.
 
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