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Top Lawmakers Tell Intel Community Inspector General: Come Clean On Secret Changes To Whistleblower Rules


Lawmakers in both chambers wrote to the Intelligence Community Inspector General on Monday demanding answers about why his office secretly eliminated a requirement that whistleblower complaints contain first-hand evidence.



Republican lawmakers in both the Senate and House on Monday demanded answers from the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) about secret revisions to the office’s guidance on “urgent concern” whistleblower complaints. The Federalist first reported last week that between May 2018 and August 2019, the ICIG secretly eliminated its requirement that potential whistleblowers provide only first-hand evidence of alleged wrongdoing.

In their letter to Michael Atkinson, the ICIG, Reps. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.), Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), and Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) noted that the anti-Trump complainant offered no direct, first-hand evidence of alleged wrongdoing against President Donald Trump. Instead, the complaint is littered with gossip, hearsay, and rumor. The lawmakers specifically asked the ICIG to explain when the whistleblower guidance was revised, by whom, and for what reason.

“Based on the language on [the May 24, 2018] form, it appears that the requirement for first-hand information has been an ICIG policy regardless of how a whistleblower makes an urgent concern report,” they wrote. “Curiously the urgent disclosure form that now appears on the Office of the Director of National Intelligence website has recently changed and no longer contains this explicit first-hand information requirement.”

“[T]he timing of the removal of the first-hand information requirement raises questions about potential connections to this whistleblower’s complaint,” the lawmakers continued. “This timing, along with numerous apparent leaks of classified information about the contents of this complaint, also raise questions about potential criminality in the handling of these matters.”

The letter informs the ICIG that he must provide answers to their questions about the timing and rationale of the secret changes to the whistleblower guidance by noon on Thursday, October 3. The lawmakers told the ICIG to treat the letter as a formal demand to preserve all evidence related to the changes to the internal ICIG whistleblower rules.

Of particular note on the letter is the signature of McCarthy, the top Republican in the U.S. House. Nunes is the top Republican on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and Jordan is the top Republican on the House Oversight Committee.

Multiple senators sent a separate letter on Monday seeking similar information from the ICIG. That letter, from Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wisc.), who chairs the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, Sen. Charles Grassley (R-Iowa), who chairs the Senate Finance Committee, and Sen. Mike Lee, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, asked the ICIG to provide all documentation surrounding the revisions to the whistleblower guidance previously issued by the intelligence community.

“Why did the IC IG intially require first-hand information in its May 2018 disclosure form?” the senators asked. “Why did the IC IG remove the requirement for first-hand information?”

“Please list all personnel who were involved in and approved both the May 2018 form and August 2019 versions of the form,” they wrote. “Please provide all records discussing the creation of the May 2018 form as well as the change in reporting standards found on the August 2019 form.”


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The law directing the whistleblower process, called the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act (ICWPA), gives the IC IG sole authority to determine whether a particular complaint is credible.

“The Inspector General shall determine whether the complaint or information appears credible,” the 1998 law states.

As of May 2018, the IC IG declared that first-hand evidence was required for “urgent concern” complaints, which are forwarded to the relevant congressional committees if the IC IG believes them to be credible.

“FIRST-HAND INFORMATION REQUIRED,” the 2018 document declared, in bold, underlined, all caps text.

“In order to find an urgent concern ‘credible,’ the IC IG must be in possession of reliable, first-hand information,” the document noted. “The IC IG cannot transmit information via the ICWPA based on an employee’s second-hand knowledge of wrongdoing.”

“This includes information received from another person, such as when a fellow employee informs you that he/she witnessed some type of wrongdoing,” the guidelines continued. “Similarly, speculation about the existence of wrongdoing does not provide sufficient legal basis to meet the statutory requirements of the ICWPA. If you think that wrongdoing took place, but can provide nothing more than second-hand or unsubstantiated assertions, IC IG will not be able to process the complaint or information for submission as an ICWPA.”

Both the general counsel of the Director of National Intelligence (DNI) and the Department of Justice (DOJ) Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) determined that the anti-Trump complaint failed to meet the requirements for “urgent concern” complaints detailed in the underlying ICWPA statute.

“[W]e determined that the allegations did not fall within the statutory definition of an ‘urgent concern’ and that the statute did not require the complaint to be transmitted to the intelligence committees,” DNI Jason Klitenic wrote to Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) on September 30. “The present complaint does not allege misconduct within the Intelligence Community or concern an intelligence activity subject to the authority of the DNI.”

In a September 3 opinion on the matter, the DOJ OLC also found that the “urgent concern” complaint from the anti-Trump intelligence community employee was statutorily deficient.

“The complaint does not arise in connection with the operation of any U.S. government intelligence activity, and the alleged misconduct does not involve any member of the intelligence community,” DOJ lawyers determined. “Rather, the complaint arises out of a confidential diplomatic communication between the President and a foreign leader that the intelligence-community complainant received secondhand.”

“The question is whether such a complaint falls within the statutory definition of “urgent concern” that the law requires the DNI to forward to the intelligence committees,” they wrote. “We conclude that it does not.”


>>> Nice to see the Republicans aren't going to sit on their asses and not do anything. This alteration to the requirement is pure bullshit.
 
Holy shit lol


Attorney General William P. Barr has held private meetings overseas with foreign intelligence officials seeking their help in a Justice Department inquiry that President Trump hopes will discredit U.S. intelligence agencies’ examination of Russian interference in the 2016 election, according to people familiar with the matter.

Barr’s personal involvement is likely to stoke further criticism from Democrats pursuing impeachment that he is helping the Trump administration use executive branch powers to augment investigations aimed primarily at the president’s adversaries.

But the high level Justice Department focus on intelligence operatives’ conduct will likely cheer Trump and other conservatives for whom “investigate the investigators” has become a rallying cry.

The direct involvement of the nation’s top law enforcement official shows the priority Barr places on the investigation being conducted by John Durham, the U.S. attorney in Connecticut, who has been assigned the sensitive task of reviewing U.S. intelligence work surrounding the 2016 election and its aftermath.

The attorney general’s active role also underscores the degree to which a nearly three-year old election still consumes significant resources and attention inside the federal government. Current and former intelligence and law enforcement officials expressed frustration and alarm Monday that the head of the Justice Department was taking such a direct role in re-examining what they view as conspiracy theories and baseless allegations of misconduct.

Barr has already made overtures to British intelligence officials, and last week the attorney general traveled to Italy, where he and Durham met senior Italian government officials and Barr asked the Italians to assist Durham, according to one person familiar with the matter. It was not Barr’s first trip to Italy to meet intelligence officials, the person said. The Trump administration has made similar requests of Australia, these people said.

A Justice Department spokeswoman declined to comment.

The president still complains frequently that those involved in the investigation of his campaign should be charged with crimes, asserting the FBI search for possible election season collusion between Russia and Trump campaign officials was a witch hunt, spurred by agents and bureaucrats opposed to Trump becoming president. That investigation ended earlier this year when special counsel Robert S. Mueller III determined there was insufficient evidence to charge any Americans with conspiring with Russia, and declined to reach a decision about whether the president had sought to obstruct justice.

David Laufman, a former Justice Department official who was involved in the early stages of the Russia probe, said it was “fairly unorthodox for the attorney general personally to be flying around the world as a point person to further evidence-gathering for a specific Justice Department investigation,” and especially so in Barr’s case.

“Even if one questions, as a threshold matter, the propriety of conducting a re-investigation of the Justice Department’s own prior investigation of Russia’s interference, the appointment of John Durham — a seasoned, nonpartisan prosecutor — provided some reason to believe that it would be handled in a professional, nonpartisan manner,” Laufman said. “But if the attorney general is essentially running this investigation, that entire premise is out the window.”

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No.

Trump at the time of asking would have no way of knowing that a look into it would net a positive outcome

Using your logic a president asking a foreign president to look into ANYTHING would be a campaign violation

And keep in mind, that is what we are discussing here. A fucking campaign violation
What the hell are you talking about? Trump withheld aid, which was already approved by Congress and is used to defend against Russia btw, to gain a personal political favor. That is the very definition of corruption and abuse of power. And what you're asking that foreign president to do matters too, right?
 
Only a basement dwelling pencil neck would think looking into possible corruption is digging up dirt on someone

Its almost as if you think if this is looked into bad stuff will be uncovered


Lol @ this nonsense.

So Donald trump himself is doing his own personal investigation all on his own? Based on his own made up thoughts of “possible corruption,” as you put it. What does that even mean btw?

He’s Not using the proper agencies to look into this he’s just doing his own PI work ?
 
No.

Trump at the time of asking would have no way of knowing that a look into it would net a positive outcome

Using your logic a president asking a foreign president to look into ANYTHING would be a campaign violation

And keep in mind, that is what we are discussing here. A fucking campaign violation

There doesn't even need to be a positive outcome, the fact there is an investigation is more than enough to use against your opponent.

Example: "My Political rival is under investigation for acts of corruption by a foreign government, clearly he isn't trustworthy as if he was, they wouldn't be investigating him"

What is wrong with this and why has been explained to you numerous times, yet you continue to ignore it and speculate that it would somehow imply everything asked is wrong "by logic".
 
What the hell are you talking about? Trump withheld aid, which was already approved by Congress and is used to defend against Russia btw, to gain a personal political favor. That is the very definition of corruption and abuse of power. And what you're asking that foreign president to do matters too, right?


Can you even imagine youd have to explain that to an adult that thinks they’re very intelligent lmao
 
This is a comical, unrealistic-movie-level attack on the truth
 
My god...you are so stupid.

Trump is going to be impeached soon and you will still be dumb as dogshit my angry friend.

Anyone want to claim that he won't be impeached? Paypal bet? Large one? no F&F.
 
@Trotsky is just a deep state plant. No forum is safe!

The people defending this utter garbage can cesspool of corruption need to wake up.
 
Can you even imagine youd have to explain that to an adult that thinks they’re very intelligent lmao
I can't with these fucking guys anymore. I really wonder if there is any line that can't be crossed.
 
Good, Trump should be getting to the bottom of all of this shit.

Is the President supposed to sit back and do nothing while everyone tries to bring him down? Fuck that.
Did you ever consider the idea maybe EVERYONE ELSE isn't the problem...and that maybe it's the gritting liar that is the proble.?
 
Putin is now saying he has the executive privilege and saying his talks with Trump cannot be released without his permission.

Are there laws that do prevent the public release of meetings with foreign leaders?

I would suspect there are for certain meetings but all meetings? Or the meetings with Putin (or Saudi leaders) specifically?
 
Holy shit, that's a huge revelation. Is there anyone Trump didn't try to strong arm into investigating his political rivals?
That list is getting shorter again.
I'm sure he promised a quid pro quo: dirt for a Great Steak.
 
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