Trump Team Had Contact With Russian Officials

That's what I meant by potential.

I think it's usually after the election and before inauguration, but I could be wrong.

Regardless, a lot of people spent time telling everyone that they never met any Russians only to have it come out that they did. Then you get the president asking people to stop investigating it.

If there wasn't a fire; they certainly caused enough smoke to convince people.
 
Sure as soon as you stop making pretend the only thing the Russians did to influence the election was merely hack Podesta's emails and release them.

I'm glad you're willing to admit that did that much though.

Baby steps.


Well there's no smoking gun but I'll buy it. What else did they do?
 
It's incredibly dangerous to normalize this and say hey, everyone does it! We need to protect the integrity of our elections regardless of the target.

One other point, it's also pretty clear now that the damage was way greater towards Hillary. I'd feel just as strongly if it was the other way around, but it sounds like you're implying equal negative attacks and it's not true.


I'm not implying anything...I'm stating that they influenced the election in trumps favor. That's extremely different than hacking the election. .. That implies that the voting isn't accurate or legitimate. Every vote trump got was a legitimate citizen weighing countless factors.

The integrity of our elections are perfectly in tact. The integrity of the Democratic campaigns computers not so much.

But it remains true that there are foreign and domestic entities that influence our election every single cycle. 99.9% of those entities worked in Clintons favor.
 
When did russia hacking the dnc become legit? I thiught there was no evidence for that?
 
Fact is the entire world has a horse in the race called the US presidential election therefore they all chime in. It's absolutely normal for external factors to influence. ..it's up to the voters to weigh that influence. DNC emails may have been illegally obtained but so we're trumps tax returns and the media gladly ran with them relentlessly.

The most egregious acts in that election were a. The collusion against Bernie by his own party. And b. Nbc strategically holding back that tape and dropping it like an atom bomb at the worst possible time.
 
Well there's no smoking gun but I'll buy it. What else did they do?

Well, for one, Podesta was not targeted by these attacks. It wasn't some one off snatch and grab.

Podesta fell into a much larger net of attacks being carried out by the Russians. The Russians breached the emails of thousands of US military and NATO military personnel, government officials from the US and Europe, Russian dissidents as well as reporters and authors critical of Russia. They also targeted US authors, professors, and scientists with specialization in advanced military fields like aeronautics.

The DNC was hacked using totally different methods by a separate Russian group.


This was just the hacking they did. They simultaneously conducted a wide scale disinformation campaign targeted at social media using both human operatives and bot networks, backed up by their own state run media. Many of the twitter # during the election had Russian origins. For example, the one debate that Hillary clearly won, I think it was the second, a twitter hashtag originating from St. Petersburg sprung up #TrumpWon anyway.
 
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Well, for one, Podesta was not targeted by these attacks. It wasn't some one off snatch and grab.

Podesta fell into a much larger net of attacks being carried out by the Russia. The Russians breached the emails of thousands of US military and NATO military personnel, government officials from the US and Europe, Russian dissidents as well as reporters and authors critical of Russia. They also targeted US authors, professors, and scientists with specialization in advanced military fields like aeronautics.

The DNC was hacked using totally different methods by a separate Russian group.


This was just the hacking they did. They simultaneously conducted a wide scale disinformation campaign targeted at social media using both human operatives and bot networks, backed up by their own state run media. Many of the twitter # during the election had Russian origins. For example, the one debate that Hillary clearly won, I think it was the second, a twitter hashtag originating from St. Petersburg sprung up #TrumpWon anyway.

Are you really accusing Russia of influencing our elections through hash tags and twitter posts?

And what disinformation did Russia spread? The things being said about Hillary and the dems were largely confirmed to be true.
 
Well, for one, Podesta was not targeted by these attacks. It wasn't some one off snatch and grab.

Podesta fell into a much larger net of attacks being carried out by the Russia. The Russians breached the emails of thousands of US military and NATO military personnel, government officials from the US and Europe, Russian dissidents as well as reporters and authors critical of Russia. They also targeted US authors, professors, and scientists with specialization in advanced military fields like aeronautics.

The DNC was hacked using totally different methods by a separate Russian group.


This was just the hacking they did. They simultaneously conducted a wide scale disinformation campaign targeted at social media using both human operatives and bot networks, backed up by their own state run media. Many of the twitter # during the election had Russian origins. For example, the one debate that Hillary clearly won, I think it was the second, a twitter hashtag originating from St. Petersburg sprung up #TrumpWon anyway.
This falls in line with what I've read and recall.
 
Are you really accusing Russia of influencing our elections through hash tags and twitter posts?

And what disinformation did Russia spread? The things being said about Hillary and the dems were largely confirmed to be true.

If you don't seen the value of social media and it's ability to influence people's opinion then you really are retarded.

I'm sorry.
 
If you don't seen the value of social media and it's ability to influence people's opinion then you really are retarded.

I'm sorry.

If you are accusing and condemning Russia for influencing the election with truthful information via twitter well...you belong in a loony bin.
 
If you are accusing and condemning Russia for influencing the election with truthful information via twitter well...you belong in a loony bin.

Do you know what the word disinformation means?

I'm not accusing them. The entire intelligence community is accusing them and really it's not really an accusation at this point. They've flat out confirmed it.
 
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And didn't I ask you what disinformation they spread? And didn't you decline to answer because you have no answer?

Face it man, you got nuffin'.

I didn't decline to awnser. I awsered and you ignored it.

There were lots of details of Russian active measures carried out during the 2016 election and the lead up to it in the Senate hearing on 3/30/17. If you're really interested in some of the more specific tactics used by the Russians I would suggest you check that out. I would watch it myself and source it for you but I'm at work and can't watch youtube.



Rubio goes into a lot of detail on some of the specific disinformation campaigns. He also talks about how he himself has been targeted by them several times.
 
Funny how you guys jerk you dicks about pizzagate yet you still believe you lost because of Russia





They have been looking for a year now...

You know it took them two years after the Watergate incident to start the impeachment process for Nixon, correct?
 
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