Trump may fire Mueller next week

[FIMN]

He should, Mueller's relationship with Comey has made this whole thing inappropriate from day one. Throw in all the recent developments and how can any objective person think this shit show should continue? There is literally zero credibility.

You would have supported Nixon in the Saturday night massacre too.

Patriotism is a foreign concept to you.

 

[FIMN]

You know full well Mueller has a contingency for this and any other conceivable scenario.

 

[tonni]

I really hope he does because then the vultures will descend on trump big time... nothing says "im guilty" more than firing the man investigating you.

ahhahaha

 

[Quipling]

He should, Mueller's relationship with Comey has made this whole thing inappropriate from day one. Throw in all the recent developments and how can any objective person think this shit show should continue? There is literally zero credibility.

Is that you, Hannity?

Being friends from a working relationship with someone tangential to the case does not make "the whole thing inappropriate." There's law governing this sort of thing. Feel free to cite the part supporting your opinion.

 

[waiguoren]

Would be a political mistake. Could be a good thing for our country long-term, though.

 

[HomerThompson]

The GOP won't do a fucking thing if he fires Mueller. A few will make some meaningless statements, and then they'll start making excuses like "it's within the President's authority" and ignoring that it's their job to prevent those sorts of abuses.

"We're the Senate, and he's the President. Our job is enacting meaningful legislation for the American people. "

- Mitch McTurtle

 

[JonnyRingo84]

Would be a political mistake. Could be a good thing for our country long-term, though.

firing both of the people investigating you, back to back, is more than a political mistake.

but...trump may be banking on the 2nd part of your sentence. that his supporters will just chalk it up to him removing the unfairness and bias that the bad guys have aligned against him. basically the methods of every dictator of the 20th/21st century.

 

[ShoelessRye]

Well it would explain the McConnell/Ryan rush to get the tax bill voted on by the 22nd. They were pushing it even before Jones won, and would still have 51 votes in the Senate now that Corker is back on board anyways.

Also interesting is there is also rumblings that Jared Kushner is about have indictment unsealed. I wonder if this is the chicken or the egg in this story. Did this leak first and the Mueller being fired is the pushback warning or is the firing the first rumor with the Kushner unsealed indictment the pushback/warning.

If Kushner has been indicted he is indicted even if Mueller is fired. It's only sealed for investigative purposes.

Also interesting is Kushner is shopping for a high powered PR team. Is that because he is leaving the WH in January with Ivanka and going back to NYC and wants to rehab his image, or because he's going to be indicted - why not both?

I could see Trump pardoning Jared the minute the indictment is unsealed.

If he fires Mueller first, the indictment is unsealed, and then he pardons Kushner. Or does Mueller unseal Jared indictment first which causes Trump to fire Mueller and pardon Jared?

I think a lot of fall out would depend on what Kushner is indicted for. If it's campaign/Russia stuff I think there would be harsh political fall out, however if it's more Manafort like, in his business dealings were shady as shit Trump will say those charges/investigations were out of bounds. But Trump cannot protect Kushner from NY state charges and Mueller and NYAG Eric Schniederman have been sharing information all along.

Hanukkah ends December 20th - Wednesday. Rumblings had Mueller waiting to unseal Kushner indictment until after the Religious holiday. Tax vote is Monday or Tuesday. Hanukkah ends on Wednesday. Indictment could be unsealed Wednesday. If Mueller is to be fired it will be after Trump signs the tax scam bill, and before Hanukkah ends on Wednesday. I think Trump will want to fire him before Jared indictment is unsealed so it can't be seen as retribution for indicting his Son-in-law.

 

[waiguoren]

firing both of the people investigating you, back to back, is more than a political mistake.

but...trump may be banking on the 2nd part of your sentence. that his supporters will just chalk it up to him removing the unfairness and bias that the bad guys have aligned against him. basically the methods of every dictator of the 20th/21st century.

I look at the long game. If Trump fires Mueller, maybe Americans will wake up and realize that systems in which subordinates are tasked with investigating superiors are flawed.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

This probably fake news but I'd say about time

 

[NC252]

firing both of the people investigating you, back to back, is more than a political mistake.

but...trump may be banking on the 2nd part of your sentence. that his supporters will just chalk it up to him removing the unfairness and bias that the bad guys have aligned against him. basically the methods of every dictator of the 20th/21st century.

I thought that Comey said 3 times that Trump was not under investigation before Comey was fired. Comey's firing is what opened up an investigation. Not sure if that is right though. But if it is right how could there be obstruction of justice? Maybe because of the statement about going easy on Flynn?

Edit. I know we were not talking about obstruction of justice it was just a random thought.

 

[JDragon]

Would be a political mistake. Could be a good thing for our country long-term, though.

Is the Waiguoren Proprietary Statistical Model equipped to forecast the likelihood of this happening?

 

[Deleted member 429137]

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-fire-mueller-next-week-750432

According to Democratic Congresswoman Jackie Spier, there is a rumor floating on the hill pertaining to Donald Trump apparently ready to fire Special Investigator Robert Mueller next week, while congress will not be in session.

So, do you think he'll try it?

Do you think Rosenstein will go through with it?

Would we see bipartisan impeachment hearings?

From article:

In Trump’s case, he would have to ask Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to fire Mueller since Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself from any Trump-Russia investigation in March.

Could Rosenstein just recuse himself? How many people would have to recuse themselves before Trump was asking Mueller to fire himself? And then Mueller could recuse himself and Mueller's assistant would have to fire Mueller.

And then Mueller could claim attorney-client privilege with himself and nothing could be done.

 

[JonnyRingo84]

I thought that Comey said 3 times that Trump was not under investigation before Comey was fired. Comey's firing is what opened up an investigation. Not sure if that is right though. But if it is right how could there be obstruction of justice? Maybe because of the statement about going easy on Flynn?

Edit. I know we were not talking about obstruction of justice it was just a random thought.

its pretty clear whether trump is officially under investigation or not, that the investigation could lead to him. is that not the point of investigating? to follow a trail and see where it goes? as it stands, enough of trumps entourage have lied about meeting with russians, and all manner of other things, to make a rational person wonder where this trail will lead. anyone SURE of where it leads is probably a fool. either way though, trump firing a 2nd investigator will only fuel suspicion among 60% of the country's citizens.

 

[Bloody Pulp]

From article:



Could Rosenstein just recuse himself? How many people would have to recuse themselves before Trump was asking Mueller to fire himself? And then Mueller could recuse himself and Mueller's assistant would have to fire Mueller.

And then Mueller could claim attorney-client privilege with himself and nothing could be done.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Political suicide, surely.

 

[Grenz]

He should, Mueller's relationship with Comey has made this whole thing inappropriate from day one. Throw in all the recent developments and how can any objective person think this shit show should continue? There is literally zero credibility.

Yea...nope

https://www.snopes.com/comey-mueller-besties/

And of course the whole thing originated from Breitbart. Who could have guessed. Speaking of conflict of interest, does it bother you at all that the 'news' source you seem to place so much trust in is run by the guy who helped Trump ascend to the presidency, then held a position as trusted adviser in the WH? But yea, probably nothing funky going on there at all.

 

[PolishHeadlock]

He should, Mueller's relationship with Comey has made this whole thing inappropriate from day one. Throw in all the recent developments and how can any objective person think this shit show should continue? There is literally zero credibility.

What relationship?

 

[ShoelessRye]

Yea...nope

https://www.snopes.com/comey-mueller-besties/

And of course the whole thing originated from Breitbart. Who could have guessed. Speaking of conflict of interest, does it bother you at all that the 'news' source you seem to place so much trust in is run by the guy who helped Trump ascend to the presidency, then held a position as trusted adviser in the WH? But yea, probably nothing funky going on there at all.

Hell, Bannon is probably a target of the investigation, and surely has been interviewed at this point if Priebus, Manafort, Spicer, Hope Hicks all have. It's interesting that he's never mentioned as have being interviewed.

 

[PolishHeadlock]

Is that you, Hannity?

Being friends from a working relationship with someone tangential to the case does not make "the whole thing inappropriate." There's law governing this sort of thing. Feel free to cite the part supporting your opinion.

They weren't even really friends outside of work. They never visited each others homes. They didn't hang out.

They're former coworkers