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Trump makes surprise appearance in WH briefing room, touts border wall support

you're American and you apparently do not know how our government works...

you should just stop commenting on anything political until you understand it more...

Why are you in support of illegal immigration?
 
Because when we has the Great Recession and bailed these companies out we held preferential stock, imposed restrictions, and as they recovered they paid us back. Saying we should do the same for a wall doesn't make any sense.

“It doesn’t make sense”.....to people who support illegal immigration.
 
If literally winning the election isn’t enough to convince you, you’re clearly biased.
You're missing the point. The election wasn't a referendum to build a wall. All these Senators and Congressmen that are opposed are representing the will of their constituents.
 
“It doesn’t make sense”.....to people who support illegal immigration.
Or just support practical measures to combat it? I wouldn't pay for a $500 gold flake and truffle syrup sundae but that doesn't mean I hate ice cream. {<huh}
 
Why are you in support of illegal immigration?

If you are talking about the stupid wall then you technically are in support as well because if Hillary had won you'd be supporting the knockdown of any walls (this another retarded logic but I won't dispute it at this moment since it's not worth my time) as it shows in this previous post right here:

I disagree on the biased part. He ran and won election on it. It should be funded. If Killary (no bias!) ran on knocking the existing wall down and won I’d support that. .

You support or don't support walls in our southern border depending on who gets elected as president which makes a you fuckin' parrot... whatever that person says you support it which makes you DUMB AS SHIT!

And my real beef was about you not understanding that there are three branches of the government that are suppose to balance each other out. Just because you become President of the United States does not him his/her will becomes law. That would be dictatorship status. Google and learn you some education...
 
heya there method115!,

Have you lived around illegal immigrants? I lived around tons of them here in Houston and worked with them a lot throughout highschool\college.

as a boy, i grew up in a wealthy suburb of NYC. just about everyone was white and had their parents buy them a car when they turned sixteen. so growing up, no, i didn't experience this scourge that you describe.

then again, i lived a few years in downtown manhattan....then a few years in a rough and tumble neighborhood in philadelphia and now live in charlotte NC, which has a host of illegal immigrants. so i guess i've lived around them as an adult.

Your making it sound way easier than it is. Fucking Bitcoin? lol. Not one illegal immigrant I've ever been friends\worked with would know what the fuck to do with bitcoin. These are people who are cashing their paychecks at the local gas station and your talking about them using bitcoin?

yup, i just mentioned bitcoin, but it could be any cryptocurrency that would exist in the near future. the fact is, they'll use banking services and credit unions first. either way, they'll find a way to get around the wire services to move money.

i know you feel that undocumented immigrants are incapable, or whatever, but here's the news my friend;
they're capable - that's why Americans like to hire them in droves. many of them survived a backbreaking journey to get here, they're a pretty driven folk. they can figure it out.

in either case, those who breezily say, "Trump should just TAX these money transfers, that'll pay for the wall", are just misinformed. they're part of the same cadre of GOP ignoramuses who used to claim that, "look, we can fund _______ easily, we just need to cut all foreign aid!". i can see the attraction in framing solution to complicated problems in such a manner, but its really just lazy and sort of ignorant.

- IGIT
 
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heya there method115!,



as a boy, i grew up in a wealthy suburb of NYC. just about everyone was white and had their parents buy them a car when they turned sixteen. so growing up, no, i didn't experience this scourge that you describe.

then again, i lived a few years in downtown manhattan....then a few years in a rough and tumble neighborhood in philadelphia and now live in charlotte NC, which has a host of illegal immigrants. so i guess i've lived around them as an adult.



yup, i just mentioned bitcoin, but it could be any cryptocurrency that would exist in the near future. the fact is, they'll use banking services and credit unions first. either way, they'll find a way to get around the wire services to move money.

i know you feel that undocumented immigrants are incapable, or whatever, but here's the news my friend;

they're capable - that's why Americans like to hire them in droves. many of them survived a backbreaking journey to get here, they're a pretty driven folk. they can figure it out.

- IGIT

You don't seem to understand they are already being charged around 2% on their paychecks just to cash them at the gas station. Now because of the new taxes they'll open up an account at a credit union or their local bank? Why wouldn't they do that to cash their own paychecks? I'll tell you why because the documentation they have to provide they are unable to do so.

Yes I'm sure some will figure it out or a way around it but I can guarantee you most of them will not. The ones waiting at the gas station or home depot to be picked up will not be doing any of this stuff your talking about. They simply lack the documentation to open up bank accounts.
 
hi again method115,

You don't seem to understand they are already being charged around 2% on their paychecks just to cash them at the gas station. Now because of the new taxes they'll open up an account at a credit union or their local bank? Why wouldn't they do that to cash their own paychecks? I'll tell you why because the documentation they have to provide they are unable to do so.

is that so?

my friend, you don't seem to understand that "they" can open bank accounts.

Opening up a bank account is important! For establishing good credit, renting or purchasing a home, and keeping your savings safe, using a bank account is the way to go. But if you are undocumented, opening up a personal bank account can feel intimidating or impossible.


Don’t worry! It’s possible-and easy-to open up an account without citizenship or a social security number.


you can read the rest at http://www.ilgrp.com/can-i-open-up-a-bank-account/, or a number of other sites that explain the process. its no big deal.

the banks make their own percentage off these transfers, so you can rest assured that no one in DC is going to interrupt this pipeline.

Yes I'm sure some will figure it out or a way around it but I can guarantee you most of them will not. The ones waiting at the gas station or home depot to be picked up will not be doing any of this stuff your talking about. They simply lack the documentation to open up bank accounts.

well, you're wrong, lol.

agree to disagree, i guess.

i'll add this, though. you really are underestimating the central Americans who made it here alive.

- IGIT
 
If you are talking about the stupid wall then you technically are in support as well because if Hillary had won you'd be supporting the knockdown of any walls (this another retarded logic but I won't dispute it at this moment since it's not worth my time) as it shows in this previous post right here:



You support or don't support walls in our southern border depending on who gets elected as president which makes a you fuckin' parrot... whatever that person says you support it which makes you DUMB AS SHIT!

And my real beef was about you not understanding that there are three branches of the government that are suppose to balance each other out. Just because you become President of the United States does not him his/her will becomes law. That would be dictatorship status. Google and learn you some education...

Did you just call me a parrot for believing that the will of the American people should be carried out regardless of party affiliation!?

Think about that.
 
Did you just call me a parrot for believing that the will of the American people should be carried out regardless of party affiliation!?

Think about that.

hello Letssnuggle,

but, what if the will of the American people is more hazy than that?

like, what if the will of the American people is that they can't quite get off their couches to vote for Mrs. Clinton (emails, the most corrupt politician in the history of mankind, calling white nationalist rednecks deplorable, the way she assassinated Vince Foster with her bare hands, etc) and that reality obscures the wall as a relevant consideration at the ballot box?

or, what if the will of the American people is, "sure, build a wall. if them Mexicans are gonna pay for it, why not?".

or, what if the will of the American people is similar to will of the English who voted for Brexit...but were just unsure of what Brexit was (except it would result in rainbows and blowjobs for everyone)? alot of Brexiteers are experiencing a serious case of buyer's remorse, if you didn't know.

or, what if the will of the American people is to be unpredictable and capricious, like our role model POTUS and just change their mind on the necessity of a wall? i'm asking, because if you look at the results of the midterms, i think i can make that argument.

- IGIT
 
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Did you just call me a parrot for believing that the will of the American people should be carried out regardless of party affiliation!?

Think about that.

The will of the people? LOL. Hillary won the popular vote. Polls show there are more people against funding the wall..

Think about that.

oh wait.. you don't think before you post... double LOL
 
I don’t want our system of governance changed. You’re the one advocating that by:

A) You personally support that our laws are being broken via illegal immigration across the southern border, on a massive scale. And want it to continue.

B) The Trump administrations plan to build a border wall is in response to the violence, drug, and social liabilities that are flooding across the southern border, illegally. Walls have been proven to work for hundreds of years. And your position is that I sound dumb because democracts in Congress support our laws being broken and are trying to subvert the plan that a duly elected president ran and won on to stop it. That’s not only dumb, it’s obstruction to the laws that govern our country and they way it’s designed to operate.

Whatever state you're from needs to fund their schools better because you clearly don't have any idea about the way in which our government is set up.

Just because someone is elected president does not mean their campaign promises get rubber stamped and shoved through by default. That is not how our government has ever worked, it's not how it's designed to work, and it's not how it currently works.

If a president wants to get his agenda accomplished they need to cultivate support in the legislature for it. Sometimes that comes easy and the president has a Congress voted in aligned with his views. Other times that is not the case, this is one of those times. In those cases the president needs to secure support through compromise because his agenda is not the agenda of the legislature he needs to pass his bills. Some of them having been elected on diametrically opposed platforms to the president. And yet you expect the to abandon their constituents for nothing.

This is 4th grade checks and balances stuff. You think that Democrats in the House and Senate should blindly support the president's agenda despite their constituents not being for that agenda. An agenda that us not supported by the majority of Americans from a president that didn't even win the popular vote.

This is America, he is president, not king, not czar, not emperor. Go retake civics class.
 
herro Langford,

i prefer to call it "The Will of Ann Coulter".

- IGIT

Hello IGIT,

You do not need to start every fucking post with "Hello (Poster-Name)" when replying to someone.
 
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