Trump crying about Stephen Curry... lol

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

Um, aren't you a modern christian, who reads your book in English translations? lol.

Some biblical books were written in Greek, some in Hebrew, some in Aramaic. This does nothing to remedy the appalling errors of your book that start from page 1.

Explain, oh wise one:

1. Light being created before the sun and stars
2. How the firmament actually exists, considering the upper waters dont actually exist, per scientific proof
3. Plants being created before the sun
4. Why God thinks people can use the stars for signs
5. Why God thinks the moon is a light
6. Why God doesn't know the sun is a star
7. Why does God think the stars could light Earth, considering we can only view a tiny fraction of them
8. Why God thinks man has dominion over all things, and why he did not seem to know about micro organisms that have dominion over us, uncontested
9. Why God seems to think humans can eat any plant
10. Why he thinks animals can do the same

10 examples in the first book of Genesis alone.

But pray tell, humble christian on a mission for God, how I'm the dishonest one.

You could also take the "OT is an allegory" point of view, and point out that Jesus is what matters, then I would have a shit ton more errors for you to rationalize away, or, far more likely, be a bitch about, and not address.

You didn't understand which is par for the course. You're hyperfocusing on the moon being called a light. You also hyoerfocused on the dome wording from a specific translation. You're a pseudo intellectual like I said.

Earlier I asked if you were ignorant or dishonest about the number of stars reflecting Abraham's descendents being in the creation story. If you're interested in an honest discussion, addressing that would be a good start.

 

[hillelslovak87]

You didn't understand which is par for the course. You're hyperfocusing on the moon being called a light. You also hyoerfocused on the dome wording from a specific translation. You're a pseudo intellectual like I said.

Earlier I asked if you were ignorant or dishonest about the number of stars reflecting Abraham's descendents being in the creation story. If you're interested in an honest discussion, addressing that would be a good start.

He took him outside and said, "Look up at the sky and count the stars--if indeed you can count them." Then he said to him, "So shall your offspring be." - Gen 15:5

Let us be dishonest, and grant your two claims, despite the book saying the moon was a light in no uncertain terms, and let's be dishonest and refuse to recognize that the ancient Jews clearly though the firmament was a physical dome, with the veil in the holy of holies being the center of creation.

Let us grant both of those. Explain the other 8 examples from the first two pages of your book that I provided.

It's funny. My mom called me a pseudo intellectual when I was 14 and she couldn't answer my questions. lol.

I doubt your god likes you being a pussy.

 

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

He took him outside and said, "Look up at the sky and count the stars--if indeed you can count them." Then he said to him, "So shall your offspring be." - Gen 15:5

Genesis 15 is not the creation story... so that argument is based in ignorance you admit?

 

[hillelslovak87]

Genesis 15 is not the creation story... so that argument is based in ignorance you admit?

Oh, so God didn't mean it then. Good argument.

Address my critiques, and stop being an arrogant pussy, oh saved one....

 

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

Oh, so God didn't mean it then. Good argument.

Address my critiques, and stop being an arrogant pussy, oh saved one....

Who said God didn't mean It? Wow you're tedious. Why are you bringing that verse up as some kinda gotcha? God promised him he'd have lots of descendents. What are you hung up on?

 

[hillelslovak87]

Who said God didn't mean It? Wow you're tedious. Why are you bringing that verse up as some kinda gotcha? God promised him he'd have lots of descendents. What are you hung up on?

Um, that God seemingly does not know that there are sextillions of stars, and he told someone their progeny would number that many......

Address all the other points I brought forth. I'm waiting, and again, I'll probably get some of your cowardly goal post moving and seeming inability to address my points......

 

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

Um, that God seemingly does not know that there are sextillions of stars, and he told someone their progeny would number that many......

Address all the other points I brought forth. I'm waiting, and again, I'll probably get some of your cowardly goal post moving and seeming inability to address my points......

"If indeed you can count them."
What do you think that means? You take that literally?

I'm not going to address 10 points at a time when you are having trouble handling discussion on 1.

 

[hillelslovak87]

"If indeed you can count them."
What do you think that means?

I'm not going to address 10 points at a time when you are having trouble handling discussion on 1.

If indeed you count them? I guess it would mean exactly as it says. It does nothing to remedy the fact that Jesus told a man his descendants would number the stars. Seems rather obvious the writer did not know the amount of stars, and would not have written that if he did in fact know.

Did God promise Isaac his descendants would number as the stars, or not?

NIV
I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and will give them all these lands, and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed,

New Living
I will cause your descendants to become as numerous as the stars of the sky, and I will give them all these lands. And through your descendants all the nations of the earth will be blessed.

English Standard
I will multiply your offspring as the stars of heaven and will give to your offspring all these lands. And in your offspring all the nations of the earth shall be blessed,

King James
And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;

Pretty damn simple to understand. Now stop being a pussy and address the points, instead of obfuscating and pretending as if the critiques dont exist, or you dont need to refute them.

The "You're not godly, so I wont waste my time with you!!" shit is pretty damn arrogant and childish at the same time, and does nothing to advance your argument.

 

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

If indeed you count them? I guess it would mean exactly as it says. It does nothing to remedy the fact that Jesus told a man his descendants would number the stars. Seems rather obvious the writer did not know the amount of stars, and would not have written that if he did in fact know.

Did God promise Isaac his descendants would number as the stars, or not?

NIV
I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and will give them all these lands, and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed,

New Living
I will cause your descendants to become as numerous as the stars of the sky, and I will give them all these lands. And through your descendants all the nations of the earth will be blessed.

English Standard
I will multiply your offspring as the stars of heaven and will give to your offspring all these lands. And in your offspring all the nations of the earth shall be blessed,

King James
And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;

Pretty damn simple to understand. Now stop being a pussy and address the points, instead of obfuscating and pretending as if the critiques dont exist, or you dont need to refute them.

The "You're not godly, so I wont waste my time with you!!" shit is pretty damn arrogant and childish at the same time, and does nothing to advance your argument.

Wah I'm not getting everything I demand of somebody wahhh.

What's pretty simple to understand is that verse isn't literal. Before you go cackling about me choosing what's literal and not.... Pretty much anybody can read that correctly but you it seems. It's an argument that lacks critical thinking of any sort. It's refutation is WAY too simple. It's a metaphor.

I never made the "you're not godly" argument. I made the "you're a closed minded waste of time argument"

Choose the next one you want from your list... i got time to waste

 

[hillelslovak87]

Wah I'm not getting everything I demand of somebody wahhh.

What's pretty simple to understand is that verse isn't literal. Before you go cackling about me choosing what's literal and not.... Pretty much anybody can read that correctly but you it seems. It's an argument that lacks critical thinking of any sort. It's refutation is WAY too simple. It's a metaphor.

I never made the "you're not godly" argument. I made the "you're a closed minded waste of time argument"

Choose the next one you want from your list... i got time to waste

Oh, you're the one who knows it's not literal? How do you know this? Is it reasonable that God would perform the rare action of actually speaking to a human, to make them a metaphorical prediction? Please, this is childish nonsense.

You can choose from the other 8 examples. Which one would you prefer to be dishonest and flail about over? Earth before light? Mammals before reptiles? Light before sun and stars? Man's dominion over all things?

Pick one, pussy.....

 

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

Oh, you're the one who knows it's not literal? How do you know this? Is it reasonable that God would perform the rare action of actually speaking to a human, to make them a metaphorical prediction? Please, this is childish nonsense.

You can choose from the other 8 examples. Which one would you prefer to be dishonest and flail about over? Earth before light? Mammals before reptiles? Light before sun and stars? Man's dominion over all things?

Pick one, pussy.....

Jesus is God and spoke in parables all the time. To believe it was literal would mean Abraham's descendents would match the exact number of stars no more and no less. Abraham's wife was barren so the thought of having children literally made her laugh. God promised him an uncountable number of descendents (hence why he said "if you can count them"). We can't move on until I've given a sufficient defense of each topic. Unless you want to concede this point that is

 

[hillelslovak87]

Jesus is God and spoke in parables all the time. To believe it was literal would mean Abraham's descendents would match the exact number of stars no more and no less. Abraham's wife was barren so the thought of having children literally made her laugh. God promised him an uncountable number of descendents (hence why he said "if you can count them"). We can't move on until I've given a sufficient defense of each topic. Unless you want to concede this point that is

We're not talking about Jesus, this is the old testament. God would have been right about the Jews.....if there were 15 million stars or so. God made a HUGE error, literally by sextillions. It does not matter whether or not god meant 100 million or sextillions of stars, he got it fucking wrong.

Fuck it, I'll take your third terrible rationalization as granted, just to sift through the rest of your lack of cogent answers towards obvious elementary errors by the god ordained writers you cant admit did not know anything about our reality.

 

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

We're not talking about Jesus, this is the old testament. God would have been right about the Jews.....if there were 15 million stars or so. God made a HUGE error, literally by sextillions. It does not matter whether or not god meant 100 million or sextillions of stars, he got it fucking wrong.

Fuck it, I'll take your third terrible rationalization as granted, just to sift through the rest of your lack of cogent answers towards obvious elementary errors by the god ordained writers you cant admit did not know anything about our reality.

How was God wrong about the Jews? Jesus is God so speaking in parables is consistent.. Got what "fucking wrong"? What claim are you attributing to the Bible?

Your whole last paragraph is fluff and cowardly avoidance of discussion. You have nothing else on that topic do You?

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Lebron is a smart guy.

Talking in succinct/blunt/shorthanded terms is kind of normal for Twitter.

People don't know about telegraph shorthand, it was much the same

 

[Shidlord]

Lol, good. Steph curry will now find himself in shit territory where he ain't dark enough to be a brotha, but ain't white enough for the white people. Wise decision, stephen.

eh? Stephen Curry is a brother though. He aint mixed like you.

 

[hillelslovak87]

How was God wrong about the Jews? Jesus is God so speaking in parables is consistent.. Got what "fucking wrong"? What claim are you attributing to the Bible?

Your whole last paragraph is fluff and cowardly avoidance of discussion. You have nothing else on that topic do You?

God was wrong about the Jews entirely. I fail to see how this is incredibly hard to grasp. The old testament God of Abraham is a blunt, decisive God. In Genesis he does not present parable, he presents "history" and command.

If God told one race of a species of primate on one planet that they would number as the stars, God was a moron. God did this, in no uncertain terms.

I am not the one avoiding anything. You are the one who is asserting the truth of this book in all of it's parts. I have steadfastly asked you to provide any sort of rational arguments for any of your clearly bogus claims. You refuse to do so, pretending as if you have addressed a couple of these questions satisfactorily, you have not.

But still, I took the couple examples you actually did address via babble, and granted them to you. And still, you cant bring yourself to address the other 7 or 8 points I critiqued in your position. inerrant.

So address the other points.

 

[hillelslovak87]

eh? Stephen Curry is a brother though. He aint mixed like you.

I bet it keeps Steph Curry up at night, thinking some guy doesn't think he's black enough. haha. I bet he wakes up like

Damn, what if I'm not black enough? lol.........

 

[Throttlehead]

Must be a bummer for all the faithful I-follow-Trump-no- matter-what idiots to have to quit watching NFL, NBA and soon baseball because the petulant child can't figure out how to do his job.

 

[oleDirtyBast4rd]

God was wrong about the Jews entirely. I fail to see how this is incredibly hard to grasp. The old testament God of Abraham is a blunt, decisive God. In Genesis he does not present parable, he presents "history" and command.

If God told one race of a species of primate on one planet that they would number as the stars, God was a moron. God did this, in no uncertain terms.

I am not the one avoiding anything. You are the one who is asserting the truth of this book in all of it's parts. I have steadfastly asked you to provide any sort of rational arguments for any of your clearly bogus claims. You refuse to do so, pretending as if you have addressed a couple of these questions satisfactorily, you have not.

But still, I took the couple examples you actually did address via babble, and granted them to you. And still, you cant bring yourself to address the other 7 or 8 points I critiqued in your position. inerrant.

So address the other points.

So I've had plenty of answers for this topic. Just none that would satisfy you. I'm not surprised. Which one shall we go to next? Make a claim or argument

 

[TheComebackKid]

@hillelslovak87 Can you not derail every single thread into a debate about the Bible? Thanks