I got these shorts and I have decided to give them a review. First up fit and finish. They look and feel great. Very few loose strings. I got a 32 which is what I wear in everything but sprawls and the fit was right on. It is 4 way stretch material and feels nice. They are just above the knee and for reference they are just slightly shorter then sprawls. Closure System. It has the standard closure system except for instead of it coming across the front it comes from over the top which I like because sometimes I find that the velcro irratates me. Mobility. These shorts have split seams but are shorter(3-4 inches) then other shorts. I personally like this I do not typically like split seams but these are ok. I have no issues with high kicks, pulling guard, or any other movement. I would recommend these shorts. They are very comfy and work exactly how they should. I got these shorts from MMAWarehouse.com and everything I got came on time including a new pair of the grip flex sprawls. Overall the Icebergs are very good shorts. I would give them a 9 out of 10.