Tribulus and ZMA.

[hardheart]

I don't discount the idea that magnesium and zinc are vital minerals both for health and performance.But short of a deficiency, I've never seen any clinical trials displaying ZMA being effective at significantly altering hormonal profiles.

Plus, it would be more efficient to take a quality multi (which should contain more than 100% Zinc) and a magnesium supplement. Much much more inexpensive as well.

Either way, based on the last post, I think we've been trolled.

That's where your understanding is limited. It's very very easy to be deficient in Zinc & Magnesium if you're an athlete/live an active lifestyle and have a proper diet.

 

[StevenCrowder]

That's where your understanding is limited. It's very very easy to be deficient in Zinc & Magnesium if you're an athlete/live an active lifestyle and have a proper diet.

... How would that mean that my understanding is limited?

I said "short of a deficiency..." You said "it's very easy to be deficient..."

The statements are not mutually exclusive. So... thanks for proving my point?

 

[Kazuya Mishima]

I don't discount the idea that magnesium and zinc are vital minerals both for health and performance.But short of a deficiency, I've never seen any clinical trials displaying ZMA being effective at significantly altering hormonal profiles.

Plus, it would be more efficient to take a quality multi (which should contain more than 100% Zinc) and a magnesium supplement. Much much more inexpensive as well.

Either way, based on the last post, I think we've been trolled.

Jeez are you so paranoid about being trolled that you think people will troll you on advice on supplements?

No joke I had a few nights of constipation. I really never took supplements so this is a new experience all together not just the specific ones mentioned in this thread.

 

[hardheart]

... How would that mean that my understanding is limited?

I said "short of a deficiency..." You said "it's very easy to be deficient..."

The statements are not mutually exclusive. So... thanks for proving my point?

You said "short of a deficiency" like it's some sort of difficult thing to achieve or an outlier. Most active people are in a deficient state, so, you saying "short of a deficiency" would indicate you don't understand that most active people/athletes are in a deficient state.

 

[StevenCrowder]

Most active people are in a deficient state, so, you saying "short of a deficiency" would indicate you don't understand that most active people/athletes are in a deficient state.

Have any scientific proof that "most active people" are deficient?
Does that oh-so scientific term include only high level athletes or people who may get on the treadmill every now and then?
More importantly, have any proof that most of those said active people taking a decent multi are deficient?
More importantly, that the OP would fall under your general category of "active people"?

Maybe work on your own understanding a little bit before you start critiquing others for maintaining a skeptical/reserved position on bro-science.