Trayvon Martin Vs. Kyle Rittenhouse -- What's the Difference?

[Overtures]

I'm of the opinion that anyone who thinks George Zimmerman was in the right is a big old piece of shit, and he is guilty of murder.

I'm of the opinion that Kyle Rittenhouse acted in self-defense.

I think these two positions are logically consistent. And I'm curious how anyone could side with both Zimmerman and Rittenhouse. That, to me, isn't consistent.

Rittenhouse felt his life was in danger, and given the context in which he was being chased --- a riot (where lawlessness is established) -- and his brandishing of a weapon, I think his intuitions were justified. He had a right to act in self-defense with lethal force.

And Trayvon's case is no different. He was being pursued, and given the context, his intuition that his life was in danger was justified. He had a right to act in self-defense with lethal force. In other words, it was in his right to physically try to incapacitate George Zimmerman.


Also this relevant tweet of Ben Shapiro's basically invalidates anything he's ever said:

 

[Sketch]

Both were good old fashioned self defense.

 

[Queen B]

Both Zimmerman and Rittenhouse did the same thing and should be jailed

 

[Overtures]

Both were good old fashioned self defense.

So Trayvon acted in self defense? And Geroge is guilty of murder?

 

[Queen B]

Both were good old fashioned self defense.

Entrapment.

 

[Misfit23]

Video evidence

 

[Sketch]

So Trayvon acted in self defense? And Geroge is guilty of murder?

Go away.

 

[LMP]

I personally think the intent of Rittenhouse and Zimmerman were pretty much the same. Both took the firearms with them in hopes of using them.

 

[brother mouzone]

So Trayvon acted in self defense? And Geroge is guilty of murder?

No, because he had no reasonable fear for his safety for someone walking down the same street as him. If zman had charged at him, sure.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

in for positive, uplifting thread

 

[superpunch]

nm

 

[superpunch]

No, because he had no reasonable fear for his safety for someone walking down the same street as him. If zman had charged at him, sure.

Maybe not legally, but wasn't he being stalked?

 

[Finding Deebo]

I'm of the opinion that anyone who thinks George Zimmerman was in the right is a big old piece of shit, and he is guilty of murder.

I'm of the opinion that Kyle Rittenhouse acted in self-defense.

I think these two positions are logically consistent. And I'm curious how anyone could side with both Zimmerman and Rittenhouse. That, to me, isn't consistent.

Rittenhouse felt his life was in danger, and given the context in which he was being chased --- a riot (where lawlessness is established) -- and his brandishing of a weapon, I think his intuitions were justified. He had a right to act in self-defense with lethal force.

And Trayvon's case is no different. He was being pursued, and given the context, his intuition that his life was in danger was justified. He had a right to act in self-defense with lethal force. In other words, it was in his right to physically try to incapacitate George Zimmerman.


Also this relevant tweet of Ben Shapiro's basically invalidates anything he's ever said:

Can't really disagree with this...

 

[blaseblah]

Does anyone not think Zimmerman is a piece of shit at this point?

 

[Finding Deebo]

in for positive, uplifting thread

 

[Overtures]

Go away.

You need to chill.

 

[Mike_Tyson_fan36]

To the great beyond this thread shall go.

 

[TheFirstEMP]

Zimmerman = self defense. Rittenhouse = even more justified, non-white supremacist self defense.

 

[High Altitude]

Trayvon attacked a man who wasn't harming him in any way.

This is the problem when you are the type of person who strikes first when the situation doesn't call for it, eventually you meet your match and pay the ultimate price.

 

[brother mouzone]

Maybe not legally, but wasn't he being stalked?

Legally no he was not being stalked. Following someone in public only becomes a crime when you are harassing them. If zman was actively trying to kidnap, or otherwise victimize trayvon, that would be a much different story

Trayvon's reason for self defense fell completely apart when his girlfriend testified that he had ran away from zman, and then turned back around to find him and fight him