Training Methods...

[BustaHimes]

Obviously this is a rough sport, where injuries will happen, BUT, it seems there are some Gyms that are absolutely injury plagued.

Like AKA is obv. the worst for injuries while maybe Jackson's is the best? (Or maybe somebody knows better?)

I just believe that all the oldschool training methods need to be thrown out the window. There is no way fighters should be tearing the ACL or MCL on fight week!!

So who are the worst for injuries? Who are the best? Do you think that the injure-bug gyms should look for help? What do you guys think?

IMO I believe all oldschool methods should be buried. Hard sparring is not too necessary for seasoned veterans. I also believe that there should be certain understandings for fighters than are in their camp.

 

[DIABOLUS]

I'm very interested to see how this training center the UFC is setting up will help fighters with injury prevention and rehab.

I'm still all for fining fighters that pull out of fights with less than a month's notice (main & co-main fights).

 

[AKFC]

I agree that AKA has some bad luck with injuries, which could be coincidental or some sort of flaw in their practice. That said, I don't think they would trade much there given they have a lot of current and former champions as well as legit contenders.

 

[Blackjack]

I blame plyometrics and overtraining for injuries. Plyometrics is to weight training what witch doctors are to western medical doctors.

 

[BustaHimes]

I agree that AKA has some bad luck with injuries, which could be coincidental or some sort of flaw in their practice. That said, I don't think they would trade much there given they have a lot of current and former champions as well as legit contenders.

True. They are definitely doing a lot of things right, but I don't think it's coincidence with the injuries.
Wasn't there a video of Cain doing some horrible weight training, which he's being instructed by his S&C Coach?!

 

[AKFC]

True. They are definitely doing a lot of things right, but I don't think it's coincidence with the injuries.
Wasn't there a video of Cain doing some horrible weight training, which he's being instructed by his S&C Coach?!

Indeed. Apparently it was him doing very heavy kettlebell swings with horrible form. Some S&C coach...

 

[BustaHimes]

I blame plyometrics and overtraining for injuries. Plyometrics is to weight training what witch doctors are to western medical doctors.

So the gains from plyo workouts aren't worth the injury probability?
It does seem plyos put a ton of stress on the legs particularly our very sensitive knees

 

[Blackjack]

True. They are definitely doing a lot of things right, but I don't think it's coincidence with the injuries.
Wasn't there a video of Cain doing some horrible weight training, which he's being instructed by his S&C Coach?!

There's a video of him doing let extensions using only momentum to raise the weight which multiplies the stress on the tendons and ligaments as well as risk of injury.

 

[Blackjack]

So the gains from plyo workouts aren't worth the injury probability?
It does seem plyos put a ton of stress on the legs particularly our very sensitive knees

Plyometrics are the type of weight training most likely to get people injured. There is even a plyometric exercise where someone is supposed to perform bench press while balancing their back on a basketball. I can't imagine any reputable gym allowing this because the insurance premiums for the gym would be astronomical!

 

[BustaHimes]

Plyometrics are the type of weight training most likely to get people injured.

Wow didnt know that, i figured squats or leg press

 

[NoContest]

Wow didnt know that, i figured squats or leg press

I think plyometrics is a way of exercising, not specific sets you do. It's where you pretty much do everything you can to injure yourself.

 

[Kyler Ruxin]

A lot of people like to say shit like "these guys are sparing too hard", but most the injuries that keep fighters out of fights are grappling related. There's not too many people missing fights with broken jaws, it's usually muscle/joint tears. How the hell do you prevent that in this sport? Grapple less in training? It's a really hard sport to train for, and not get hurt during training. I'm not sure that there is a "perfect" way of doing it. You have to train smart, but at the same time, you have to be kind of lucky to not get hurt in training.

 

[NoContest]

It's a really hard sport to train for, and not get hurt during training. I'm not sure that there is a "perfect" way of doing it. You have to train smart, but at the same time, you have to be kind of lucky to not get hurt in training.

It's probably also got a lot to do with the "No pain no gain power through the bone breaks" mentality of mma fighters.