Top 10 HWs according to their SHOWN TDD.

[kikikhan]

I don't know how to rank these guys.

I think we can rank them together though.

My candidates:

CC

Arlovski

JDS

Rizzo

Fedor

Sylvia

Overeem

Cain

Minotauro

Barnett



I'm reluctant to include aggressive wrestlers, who allways attacked with TDs, but rarely defended any.


What do you guys think?

 

[Hazuki Ryo]

Ahem Couture maybe ?

 

[accolyte1022]

Spoiler

1.Fedor
2.Fedor
3.Fedor
4.Fedor
5.Fedor
6.Fedor
7.Fedor
8.Fedor
9.Fedor
10.Dylan

 

[Drake]

So this is ever?

 

[kikikhan]

So this is ever?

Yes.

I don't know wha to do with wrestlers.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

CC 78%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/c32fb8c0f6471a4d

Arlovski 85%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/3738e68d2261e60f

JDS 80%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/63def5a5662a6917

Rizzo 78%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/b44f39a5c6596953

Fedor 82%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/b8da6f5c80ae2d15

Sylvia 75%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/2a542ee8a8b83559

Overeem 77%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/b4ad3a06ee4d660c

Cain 85%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/0ff11cc094e887bc

Minotauro 36%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/ee9d73f4fee9cbdd

Barnett 54%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/ad3f53c454cbbead

Browne has very good TDD at 82%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/3236bf606fe9fa5b

Hunt has improved a lot and his TDD is at 68% but that includes when he was new to MMA then when he just wasn't training.
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/eef9b891edbd4604

I think Andrei Arlovski has the best TDD shown at HW in MMA over their career. Other fighters used to be much better and have better TDD when younger like Cro Cop.

 

[kikikhan]

CC 78%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/c32fb8c0f6471a4d

Arlovski 85%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/3738e68d2261e60f

JDS 80%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/63def5a5662a6917

Rizzo 78%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/b44f39a5c6596953

Fedor 82%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/b8da6f5c80ae2d15

Sylvia 75%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/2a542ee8a8b83559

Overeem 77%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/b4ad3a06ee4d660c

Cain 85%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/0ff11cc094e887bc

Minotauro 36%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/ee9d73f4fee9cbdd

Barnett 54%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/ad3f53c454cbbead

Browne has very good TDD at 82%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/3236bf606fe9fa5b

Hunt has improved a lot and his TDD is at 68% but that includes when he was new to MMA then when he just wasn't training.
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/eef9b891edbd4604

I think Andrei Arlovski has the best TDD shown at HW in MMA over their career. Other fighters used to be much better and have better TDD when younger like Cro Cop.

Thanks, man.

Minotauro and Barnett surprise me a bit.

I know Minotauro didn't mind (he wanted it actually) being on the ground.

 

[Killme]

I did not know Andrei Arlovski was so good at defending takedowns. If that guy had a good chin he would be unbeatable.

 

[Bmurray]

CC 78%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/c32fb8c0f6471a4d

Arlovski 85%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/3738e68d2261e60f

JDS 80%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/63def5a5662a6917

Rizzo 78%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/b44f39a5c6596953

Fedor 82%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/b8da6f5c80ae2d15

Sylvia 75%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/2a542ee8a8b83559

Overeem 77%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/b4ad3a06ee4d660c

Cain 85%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/0ff11cc094e887bc

Minotauro 36%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/ee9d73f4fee9cbdd

Barnett 54%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/ad3f53c454cbbead

Browne has very good TDD at 82%
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/3236bf606fe9fa5b

Hunt has improved a lot and his TDD is at 68% but that includes when he was new to MMA then when he just wasn't training.
http://www.fightmetric.com/fighter-details/eef9b891edbd4604

I think Andrei Arlovski has the best TDD shown at HW in MMA over their career. Other fighters used to be much better and have better TDD when younger like Cro Cop.

Cool post

 

[TrainAllDay]

 

[bjpenngoat]

without looking at stats and just my gut I would say the best guys are CC Reem and then JDS when he is not fighting Cain. Those three are amazing at keeping the fights on the feet and punishing opponents that shoot. CC in his prime was the best by a mile.

 

[kikikhan]

without looking at stats and just my gut I would say the best guys are CC Reem and then JDS when he is not fighting Cain. Those three are amazing at keeping the fights on the feet and punishing opponents that shoot. CC in his prime was the best by a mile.

CC was The Wrestler Killer.

The fair Pride rules helped him fight to his full potential and destroy wrestlers.

Oh. Fedor took him down 4 f*cking times...

Prime Fedor was an elite MMA wrestler and I don't think most MMA fans realise this.

 

[kikikhan]

Imagine Cain trying this sh*t in Pride vs CC. Just imagine it.

Spoiler

Just saying.

 

[Diggem]

You guys have to look at the whole picture. You have to consider take down average,submissions and take down accuracy.

Arlovsky or Crocop do not risk taking anybody down so their numbers will be better than somebody who is more active in take downs and subs.

 

[Taric]

You'd think Nog and Werdum would have 0% TDD. Those guys wanted it on the ground regardless of position.

 

[kikikhan]

You guys have to look at the whole picture. You have to consider take down average,submissions and take down accuracy.

Arlovsky or Crocop do not risk taking anybody down so their numbers will be better than somebody who is more active in take downs and subs.

Agressive fighters like Fedor and Hendo sacrificed their TD defence by trying to take heads off. Can't really sh*t on their TDD in these cases

 

[kikikhan]

Another important thing. In Pride, wrestlers were allowed to use wrestling shoes. Making their TD attempts faster and stronger. So we need to give even more credit to guys who defended TDs against such wrestlers. And not make such a big deal when they were taken down vs such wrestlers Because it was harder to defend a TD vs a guy with wrestling shoes on.

 

[Huligani]

Best TDD in HW history? Probably JDS. Cain struggled so much to take him down in the 3rd fight.