Tony got saved by the bell, he was going to get finished by Charles

[jm5000]

LOL google search?

Go ahead and show some credible sources.

Credible sources haha are you new to mma? He was a certified government informant look it up yourself if you are curious

 

[TR1]

I don't see the dirty fighter. Does he foul? Sure. Is he dirty? I don't think so.

I always see that online with mma fans. They are quick to call someone dirty because of a foul. "NO HE'S INTENTIONALLY FOULING ON PURPOSE"

Repeated fouls = fighting dirty.

IDK if Tony does it on purpose, or he is just missing something upstairs, but the results are the same.

 

[TR1]

Credible sources haha are you new to mma? He was a certified government informant look it up yourself if you are curious

Being a government informant =/= being a terrorist.
You know how many informant the FBI took up post 9/11 lol? You think they all had terrorist ties?
They even got into trouble because they were harassing random muslims to inform, and paying a whole bunch to do nothing usefull.

Embarrassing that I have to clarify that for you.

 

[Peli]

Repeated fouls = fighting dirty.

IDK if Tony does it on purpose, or he is just missing something upstairs, but the results are the same.

I disagree. People assign labels to those they don't like. For the people who don't like gaethje, he's a dirty fighter because he too fouls. For the people who like him, he's a warrior, savage, etc.

Figgy fouled moreno three times including an obvious lowblow. Yet no one is calling the guy dirty on here. lol. fouls happen. He didn't repeat the foul in yesterdays match and from his position, how can he see he chuckys knee is off the floor, honestly. The man was folded up.

 

[xhaydenx]

It seemed like he was pressuring because Ferg was trying to fight on the backfoot. Olivera was stationary a lot when Ferg wasn't back peddling. Ferg tried to adopt a backwards moving counter striking style after the Gaethje fight and that style doesn't suit him at all. He doesn't have the timing and footwork to be effective with that style. He was getting hit a lot pulling his head back and swinging while leaning backwards when before he would move forward when striking.

Ferg has fought more dangerous strikers and moved forward on them, him moving backwards for Olivera is more due to him changing his strategy after Gaethje fight. He wasn't responding well to getting hit compared to before with him smiling and brushing it off so he hasn't mentally recovered from Gaethje fight.

I don't really agree, but you're welcome to your opinion of course.

This is his first fight since the Gaethje fight. I think its too early to say that that beating has suddenly made him change his style so drastically. It's not like he was ever shying away from Gaethje. He was happy to keep coming forward and engaging right until the end.

I just think Charles is a good striker who was determined to pressure. That, combined with him having the reach and speed advantage was enough to put Tony on the back foot whether that's how he wanted to fight or not. Ferguson also knew Olivera was an elite grappler. That always seems to make striking based guys at least a little timid.

Tony wasn't smiling and doing his mind game stuff because he didn't have a chance. Olivera's output was pretty impressive and constant. Kicks or punches, he was always throwing something.

 

[Paladin]

I agree, he got beat twice

The ref was about to stop it because even if Tony did not Tap, we can safely conclude that from
the way his elbow was bent, it was seconds from breaking in horrifying fashion.

 

[Paladin]

I disagree. People assign labels to those they don't like. For the people who don't like gaethje, he's a dirty fighter because he too fouls. For the people who like him, he's a warrior, savage, etc.

Figgy fouled moreno three times including an obvious lowblow. Yet no one is calling the guy dirty on here. lol. fouls happen. He didn't repeat the foul in yesterdays match and from his position, how can he see he chuckys knee is off the floor, honestly. The man was folded up.

Figgy was also humble and fully Acknowledged his fouls, agreed the ref was fully doing his job, and did not get mad at the ref for the point deduction

 

[Peli]

Figgy was also humble and fully Acknowledged his fouls, agreed the ref was fully doing his job, and did not get mad at the ref for the point deduction

Neither did the fighters I mentioned At least to my recollection. Gaethje fouled repeatedly with the eyepokes. Cormier has fouled with the eyepokes. People rush to conclusion on who they do and do not like. If figgy fouls again, he will get the benefit of the doubt just because he apologizes? What if he does it three times again?

Sometimes guys just commit fouls. Maybe part of it is tendency and not so much intentional. You can drill something so many times, if you have a bad tendency, it will eventually rear its head. Tony fouled Chuck once, that's it. Not three times. Didn't do it again after he was warned about it. That doesn't say dirty fighter to me.

The only guy I can say with some level of conviction that is dirty and looks for a way out is Cowboy Oliviera. Misses weight all the time and fouls and I have no feelings towards the guy, good or bad. I'm just saying that objectively.

 

[Rajon Rondo]

That's what I was thinking too. Ferg's next fight will be his biggest test mentally after coming off 2 tough losses.

I still think olivera beats any version of Ferguson.

 

[M.A.G.A.]

Ferguson was going to allow his arm to be ripped off...saved by the bell

His days as a top fighter are over

 

[jm5000]

Being a government informant =/= being a terrorist.
You know how many informant the FBI took up post 9/11 lol? You think they all had terrorist ties?
They even got into trouble because they were harassing random muslims to inform, and paying a whole bunch to do nothing usefull.

Embarrassing that I have to clarify that for you.

embarrassing that you are defending ali abdelaziz hes a certified piece of shit

 

[MyFavSport]

I hope that Tony still has the will to fight because he'd be a nice stepping stone fight for other lightweights.

 

[Jayofteror]

Tony getting completely dominated on the ground by Charles Oliveira confirms to me that Khabib would have also destroyed Tony. I saw nothing tonight to change my mind. Could you imagine Khabib putting that arm bar on Tony? Khabib would have ripped his Tony's arm off and beat him over the head with it. LOL

 

[FIghtxIQ]

I still think olivera beats any version of Ferguson.

Could be true, but I think old style Ferguson would put up a better fight than yesterdays Ferguson. Olivera is mentally tougher now, but old style Ferguson would've tested that to it's limit.

 

[Reffson]

Tap or snap. Saved by the bell for certain.

 

[TRYHARD 2001]

Translation: you are a dumb-ass who believed the first thing Conor claimed, which is ONLY sourced from a bullshit website called Fuqra files.

Well, in Enemies Within: Inside the NYPD’s Secret Spying Unit and bin Laden’s Final Plot Against America by Matt Apuzzo and Adam Goldman they delve into Ali's past and use as an informant pretty extensively. Has Ali ever responded to these allegations at all? Or his conviction on document forgery? Or the fact that he supposedly defected from the Egyptian national judo team to come to America yet was never on said national team? Links to Muslims of America? For that matter, are you aware of any evidence to contradict all of these allegations?

Based on everything I've heard him say and all of the evidence against him, he really seems like he's an Arab version of this guy:

 

[pick999]

Tony wasnt tapping

 

[scytheavatar]

Tony 100% should have tapped and even when he didn't tap his corner should have thrown in the towel and prevented him from fighting the second round onwards. No way he could have defeated Charles with just 1 arm. Now he will be out for a long time, if he is capable of returning to the Octagon ever again.

 

[El Fernas]

If your arm breaks the fight's over though, it's a technical submission
Same as if you pass out while getting choked but didn't tap

That applies to the bones, but his elbow was fucked up, is that enough to stop a fight? i think they stopped Tate vs Rousey because her arm was bent like an extra 90 degrees the wrong way lol.

 

[wanted226]

Tony can try to redeem himself by no longer ducking Islam.

Ali may no longer offer him $100K/$100K to fight Islam but at least Tony would go out like a brave fighter who lost to Islam before joining Bellator