Tom Magee vs Bret Hart

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I may be late to the party but this deserves a thread of its own. This is the loch ness monster, the big foot wrestling match in wrestling lore. It's a match that supposedly existed and was built up back in the day by Dave Meltzer. It was whispered among WWF wrestlers back in the 80s and then early early 90s. Then it disappeared and it would ocassionally pop up here and there on internet message boards. It caught fire a bit when Bret Hart's autobiography came out at the end of 2008. And then once or twice a year, it would get mentioned and then this year, there was a sudden interest again in the match with Meltzer talking about it, Chris Hero and others. All of the sudden, a tape is shown on twitter saying "Bret Hart vs Tom Mcghee" by Bret's assistant. And then the internet and wrestling world sort of caught fire. Sure enough, a few months later, the WWE releases the match, something it has always denied, even to fellow WWE wrestlers.

Well, not only was the match released, they did a short documentary on it talking to numerous wrestlers, including Bret Hart and Tom Magee. The crazy thing is, what Meltzer wrote back in the day and what Bret would write in his autobiography was all true; in the WWE released production, the WWE admits that they were hoping Tom Magee would be the next Hulk Hogan, the flag bearer for the company and after the match, they believed they found their man.

Now onto the match itself. I thought it was a very good match but it's hard to say now with all the exposure I've had. I'm sure at the time, it was far better. I didn't see it as GREAT, just a solid match to build up Magee. I was impressed by the crowd reaction, they were really into everything he did, cheering every offensive move by Magee. We must remember, this was a dark match with an unknown and Bret Hart was still relatively low on the totem pole as merely a tag team wrestler. With that said, it was never held as a 5 star match but more as a match that made Magee look extremely competent and IF we grade it on that scale, this match was every bit as advertised.

A side note, through it all, Bret Hart's memory is still second to none. He still remembered it was in Rochester although that shouldn't be a surprise for anyone who's followed his career.

PS, notice how Magee didn't throw a single punch. It's because Magee's working punches were the shits. It really sucked and sucked throughout the late 80s and so if you were wondering why he didn't throw a punch, that's why.
 
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If Tom Magee could just do this formula for every match....he would've beat Hogan at WM 6 at the skydome, and being Canadian would've looked like an even bigger star than Warrior did.
 
It was pretty good and the match was better than I expected it to be, I can definitely see why Vince was so in love with the guy
He was green but he had enough athleticism to make you think he'd improve with experience, he got a huge response from the crowd and he looked like a million bucks
In 1986 there were only 2 other people in pro wrestling that looked like that, Kerry Von Erich and Lex Luger, so its understandable that Vince looked at Tom Magee and saw the future
 






Still have to watch it.
 
If Tom Magee could just do this formula for every match....he would've beat Hogan at WM 6 at the skydome, and being Canadian would've looked like an even bigger star than Warrior did.
At the same time this match happened, Warrior and Sting had just gotten kicked outta Memphis cause they were terrible and were in the UWF as the Blade Runners
Warrior hadnt even started his solo career in World Class yet
So if Magee was just able to figure it out at least as much as the Warrior did theres no telling what woulda happened with either of those guys
 
At the same time this match happened, Warrior and Sting had just gotten kicked outta Memphis cause they were terrible and were in the UWF as the Blade Runners
Warrior hadnt even started his solo career in World Class yet
So if Magee was just able to figure it out at least as much as the Warrior did theres no telling what woulda happened with either of those guys
Far more athletic and coordinated than Warrior ever was. Crazy thing is, 3 years after his wrestling debut, his kicks and punches still looked like shit. It was smart not to let him kick or punch at all on Bret’s part. I’m sure Bret knew and Stu informed Bret of Magee’s deficiencies. Will post some glorious, David Flair level gifs tomorrow
 
As promised, here are clips of his punches, chops, and kicks from his time in All Japan...punches and kicks so bad you can actually hear the reserved Japanese crowd actually giggle and laugh and this was 2 years after the Bret Hart match

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I thought that it was a really good watch.

 
I was at the TV taping for his match against Terry Gibbs.

Wanna touch me?
 
As promised, here are clips of his punches, chops, and kicks from his time in All Japan...punches and kicks so bad you can actually hear the reserved Japanese crowd actually giggle and laugh and this was 2 years after the Bret Hart match

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Tom's working punches got a lot better once he moved on to Hollywood.
who knew?

also, I am convinced that Tom is Kenny Omega's dad.
 
At the same time this match happened, Warrior and Sting had just gotten kicked outta Memphis cause they were terrible and were in the UWF as the Blade Runners
Warrior hadnt even started his solo career in World Class yet
So if Magee was just able to figure it out at least as much as the Warrior did theres no telling what woulda happened with either of those guys
If only Sting had gone to the WWF instead of Warrior.
 
Regarding Bret's memory, it's because he kept a diary of his days on the road. That's how he was able to mention what town so many of those various stories in his book were in.
 
Regarding Bret's memory, it's because he kept a diary of his days on the road. That's how he was able to mention what town so many of those various stories in his book were in.
that or his memory is
the best there is
the best there was
and the best there ever will be.
 
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