To all those sherdoggers scoring JJ

[BringCodyBack]

She was in & out of conscious the whole fight -> her words

Her face looks like she´s an alien, and took tremendous punishment.

Weili looked fairly unscathed.

Yet nut huggers will say she won with those pit patters shots.

 

[No Skill Gap]

She was in & out of conscious the whole fight -> her words

Her face looks like she´s an alien, and took tremendous punishment.

Weili looked fairly unscathed.

Yet nut huggers will say she won with those pit patters shots.

Weili was unscathed lmao? Her right eye was shutting after the 1st round. Her face was fucked up, and she left on a stretcher. No one is arguing that Joanna didn't take a lot of damage and visibly was fucked up (hematoma, fractured nose). But that's not how fights are scored.

Zhang did not finish her, and she arguably lost 3/5 rounds and the decision win should have been Joanna's. That's how this scoring system works. The fight could have been argued either way, just like Romero winning a decision in that retard-level fight has a case too. Either fight could have been scored either way, and it honestly would have been less suspect than Jones winning over Reyes imo.

People on this site need to realize aesthetic damage =/= winning rounds and winning a decision. Fuck!

 

[ftpngo]

It was a very close fight. Weili did not come out unscathed. Facial swelling does not decide fights and Joanna landed a lot of body shots. They count despite you not being able to see the damage.

Perhaps the shots Weili landed were heavier overall and that was enough to sway two of the judges. Super close fight. Amazing fight.

Respect for both fighters and the judges who had a really tough job in scoring that fight.

 

[RampageFaction]

She was in & out of conscious the whole fight -> her words

Her face looks like she´s an alien, and took tremendous punishment.

Weili looked fairly unscathed.

Yet nut huggers will say she won with those pit patters shots.

One poster has already been exposed as totally fabricating the quote. Where’s your source so we can read/hear for ourselves what Joanna actually said?

 

[Mr. Hammer]

Weili looked fairly unscathed.

I'm too lazy but I'm sure someone will post a pic of Weili's busted up face post-fight.

 

[Fahcough]

She was in & out of conscious the whole fight -> .

So was I . How much longer is the contract before they go back to Invicta

 

[Telford90]

To anyone saying that JJ lost because she looked worse post fight, I suggest you go look at gsp and Condit post their ufc 154 match. GSP won it 50-45, 50-45, 49-46.

It was a close fight, but anyone saying that you pick the winner based on who looked worse is a fucking idiot.

 

[ufcfan4]

Modern-day classic. One of the best title fights of the past decade in my opinion.

Fact of the matter is that it was very close. I feel either outcome was justifiable. As for the notion that Weili seemed no worse for wear, it looked to me like each woman hurt the other on more than one occasion. The fact that Joanna's hematoma was not only surface damage but also reflective of being possibly concussed and partly out of the fight only serves to underscore how good and how mentally tough she is as she certainly didn't seem compromised from the third round on. She was still in it and still going tooth and nail with Zhang.

Big props to both women. Hearts of a champion there.

 

[cade187]

I was rooting for Zhang and picked her to win. I scored 2, 3, & 4 for JJ.

 

[SKYNET]

I'm too lazy but I'm sure someone will post a pic of Weili's busted up face post-fight.

 

[kingghidrah]

Ok, if you want to make up rules for scoring, how about this one:

The ref absolutely could have STOPPED THE FIGHT when Zhang had to be CARRIED back to her corner after the 2nd round.

 

[808nEffect]

Weili was unscathed lmao? Her right eye was shutting after the 1st round. Her face was fucked up, and she left on a stretcher. No one is arguing that Joanna didn't take a lot of damage and visibly was fucked up (hematoma, fractured nose). But that's not how fights are scored.

Zhang did not finish her, and she arguably lost 3/5 rounds and the decision win should have been Joanna's. That's how this scoring system works. The fight could have been argued either way, just like Romero winning a decision in that retard-level fight has a case too. Either fight could have been scored either way, and it honestly would have been less suspect than Jones winning over Reyes imo.

People on this site need to realize aesthetic damage =/= winning rounds and winning a decision. Fuck!

Coulda. Shoulda. Woulda. Like Dana said, never leave it to the judges.
But sometimes that can't be helped.

 

[Kumason]

I could never use the look at the damage on their face to explain who CLEARLY won a fight, i'd feel like a retard. It's easily one of the dumbest consistent arguments around here and it's baffling to me how someone can be so dumb. It was a close fight. I was rooting for Wei, thought JJ took it, but with no confidence. It was a close crazy fight, thats it.

She was in & out of conscious the whole fight -> her words

Her face looks like she´s an alien, and took tremendous punishment.

Weili looked fairly unscathed.

Yet nut huggers will say she won with those pit patters shots.

Buuut braah, like look at their faces brah!!!1! Judges don't even need to watch the fights anymore, just give them a close up and have them score it, right?

 

[West Linn]

Whether Joanna was going in and out of consciousness doesn't matter. If she hadn't said that no one would've known. We can only judge what we can see. And from the opening bell Joanna was controlling the cage, being aggressive, pushing the pace, and outworking Zhang.

 

[StanClarker]

So was I . How much longer is the contract before they go back to Invicta

Hahahahaha... goin' with 'em?

 

[808nEffect]

One poster has already been exposed as totally fabricating the quote. Where’s your source so we can read/hear for ourselves what Joanna actually said?

She mentioned something in her post-fight octagon interview. Not sure if that was it exactly, but
she did say the swelling was giving her problems, which makes a lot of sense.

 

[1moretime!]

Weili was unscathed lmao? Her right eye was shutting after the 1st round. Her face was fucked up, and she left on a stretcher. No one is arguing that Joanna didn't take a lot of damage and visibly was fucked up (hematoma, fractured nose). But that's not how fights are scored.

Zhang did not finish her, and she arguably lost 3/5 rounds and the decision win should have been Joanna's. That's how this scoring system works. The fight could have been argued either way, just like Romero winning a decision in that retard-level fight has a case too. Either fight could have been scored either way, and it honestly would have been less suspect than Jones winning over Reyes imo.

People on this site need to realize aesthetic damage =/= winning rounds and winning a decision. Fuck!

Look here:


Intracranial Hematomas Affecting the Skull and Brain


Head injuries can lead to hematomas that affect the brain. Head injuries in sports should always be treated with serious concern that it could result in a traumatic brain injury. Any loss of consciousness, however brief, needs follow-up with a health care provider. If you suspect a head injury but don't see any initial signs or symptoms, you should still follow the head injury first aid treatment steps. Signs for intracranial hematomas include headache, vomiting, drowsiness, dizziness, confusion, slurring of speech and unequal pupil size.

epidural hematoma, also called an extradural hematoma, in which a blood vessel in the head ruptures, often due to a skull fracture, and bleeding occurs between the skull and the brain's protective covering (the dura). This clot can grow either slowly or rapidly and it puts pressure on the brain that, if not treated promptly, can result in coma or death.

 

[LoneStalker]

NO way in Hell that JJ won that fight. It was a war but the amount of punishment that JJ took was unreal.
Weili won that fight.

 

[No Skill Gap]

Look here:

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Intracranial Hematomas Affecting the Skull and Brain


Head injuries can lead to hematomas that affect the brain. Head injuries in sports should always be treated with serious concern that it could result in a traumatic brain injury. Any loss of consciousness, however brief, needs follow-up with a health care provider. If you suspect a head injury but don't see any initial signs or symptoms, you should still follow the head injury first aid treatment steps. Signs for intracranial hematomas include headache, vomiting, drowsiness, dizziness, confusion, slurring of speech and unequal pupil size.

epidural hematoma, also called an extradural hematoma, in which a blood vessel in the head ruptures, often due to a skull fracture, and bleeding occurs between the skull and the brain's protective covering (the dura). This clot can grow either slowly or rapidly and it puts pressure on the brain that, if not treated promptly, can result in coma or death.

You realize the massive difference between the term "intra-" and "extra-" right? Not sure why you labelled the picture "intradural hematoma" in bold and then wrote a definition for a different thing. Extra = outside, intra = within. The difference between the two is obvious.

It's like comparing a cut on someone's stomach to internal bleeding of the organs within.

What you originally said is a "subdural hemtatoma" which is life threatening. That is the brain itself bleeding inside the cranium. It's not at all what Joanna had.

Here is a doctor weighing in on the Mark Hominick hematoma, not some random guy on Sherdog applying incorrect google results:

https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2011...d-mark-hominicks-hematoma-prompted-a-stoppage

"An enlarging forehead hematoma (bruise or collection of blood) that does not significantly affect an athlete’s vision is not dangerous. The ring side physician made the proper call on a huge stage. Job well done, sir!"

"Once again, as I have stated many times, there is a significant medical difference between injuries that are visually compelling (and even grotesque) as opposed to those that may be life, limb, neurologically (paralysis) or sensory (vision, hearing etc.) threatening."

 

[Plutoburn]

The fight would have not being as close as it was if JJ didn't accidentally headbutted Weili.