Tito vs Alberto is a mess.

Because everyone needs healthcare, and like it or not, these days people need a college education in order to get a good job that pays decent wages. It sucks that you have credit card debt, but not everyone needs credit cards. Although for the record I do support credit card debt forgiveness.
LOL comfy office, trust me, if I worked in a comfy office with a fancy degree I wouldn't be debating politics with Sherbros on a MMA forum. I would be too busy eating at fancy restaurants, working on my tan, and getting nailed by hot jocks and twinks.
Wrong, I support Medicare for all, tuition-free college, and medical and college debt forgiveness because I understand what it's like to be poor and I understand that a lot of people can't afford health insurance or to go to college. I support Bernie Sanders because he is the only politician who will fight for blue collar working class people like you and me.
I can think of 100 different careers that don't require a college education and pay decently:

1) Military
2) Aircraft technician
3) Electrician
4) Welder
5) Programmer
....

I can get behind free college and medical debt.

You chose to go into debt for college. Other people chose to go into debt for other things. To think you're so special that you'd fuck over poorer, less educated and less privileged Americans all in their own debts just to cancel only your own debt.... man that's so messed up.

Your college degree will already net you +$900K over the blue collar working class!! And it's your debts that should be cancelled??? But not the poor working class' debts?

I support universal healthcare, extremely low tuition colleges, basically all the social programs that other countries have. And my post about being the construction worker was hypothetical; I'm actually in the class of people with college degrees and student loan debt. Some free shit to cancel my student loans would be nice. But I know it's wrong. Morally wrong.

If it comes down to creating two social classes of citizens, white collar and blue collar, that are treated differently, like princes and peasants, then fuck it I'll go against everything I believe in and vote for Trump 2020.
 
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Has nothing to do with me being upset the dem lost, I'm not even a dem moron. Are you seriously just going to go with all the fox news talking points? You caught the virus you rep zombie. Its not an opinion he's corrupt and lies all the time, everything is proven. Funny a brain dead trumpet calling someone else stupid. If you're a trumpet nothing you say is very relevant anymore. Trump shits all over the Constitution but it used to be the holy bible 2.0 to reps now all of a sudden its worthless. Get outta here.

Edit: And as far as the few good things he has done the bad far outweigh them, not even close. You keep clinging to those few things and pretend they are a mountain.
Blah blah blah, a whole lot of nothing as to pointing out exactly what rights of the Constitution has been taken away from Americans? And exactly what Constitution rights has President Trump violated? You spewing stupidity of CNN, I pointed out facts. Here's another fact, President Trump up the funding for Historical Black Colleges and Universities when he took office to $25 billion dollars up from Obama's $4 billion. And stating The First Step Act Prison Reform is a Fox News talking point when it is an actual fact that President Trump got the 1st Step Prison Reform Act done is simply real news. Being brave behind a keyboard labeling someone a moron and using profanity is a coward's move boy.
 
Like all "men" of your kind, you have never trained a day in your life. You only watch mma to arouse yourself in a degenerate way. Go to a real gym and see if they accept your kind. If you have a shred of.honour leqve sherdog forever
You are an ignorant POS
 
I can think of 100 different careers that don't require a college education and pay decently:

1) Military
2) Aircraft technician
3) Electrician
4) Welder
5) Programmer
....

I can get behind free college and medical debt.

You chose to go into debt for college. Other people chose to go into debt for other things. To think you're so special that you'd fuck over poorer, less educated and less privileged Americans all in their own debts just to cancel only your own debt.... man that's so messed up.

Your college degree will already net you +$900K over the blue collar working class!! And it's your debts that should be cancelled??? But not the poor working class' debts?

I support universal healthcare, extremely low tuition colleges, basically all the social programs that other countries have. And my post about being the construction worker was hypothetical; I'm actually in the class of people with college degrees and student loan debt. Some free shit to cancel my student loans would be nice. But I know it's wrong. Morally wrong.

If it comes down to creating two social classes of citizens, white collar and blue collar, that are treated differently, like princes and peasants, then fuck it I'll go against everything I believe in and vote for Trump 2020.
Okay, well not everyone wants, or has the skills for a job in one of those fields. Also I'm pretty sure you still need some type of higher education (such as trade school) for half of those.
Glad to see that you at least agree with me when it comes to free college and medical debt forgiveness.
I'm pretty sure I mentioned this already, but I also support other kinds of debt forgiveness for poor/blue collar people who can't afford to pay off their debt.
Okay, but a lot of times people with college degrees can't find jobs because there is no jobs available in the field they chose. So those people are fucked basically until more jobs become available. And once again, I support working class people having their debts removed as well.
Okay, but you haven't really explained why college debt forgiveness is morally wrong. You just said that it would be unfair if people with college debt had their debt removed if working class people didn't have their debts removed. But I already said more than once that I support other kinds of debt forgiveness as well so...what's the problem?
I think what we have here is a failure to communicate, I think you misunderstood what I'm trying to say, and I think we actually agree with each other a lot more than you think. I'm not trying to create two class of citizens or anything like that. I just support policies that will help the little guy/working class people. And I think tuition-free college and college debt forgiveness (or debt forgiveness in general) are two policies that would help working class people.
 
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these days people need a college education in order to get a good job that pays decent wages
That's actual not true at all. 90% of college degrees are theory based and don't actual teach you a real skill.

Really the only jobs that require a bachlors degree are those that require a bachlors for a license/cert or upper mid tier government jobs

I can think of 100 different careers that don't require a college education and pay decently:
This is true. Hell I personally went to massage school for 6 months and make over 70k a year only working part time (lol)

90% of college degrees teach LITERALLY no skills and provide no certfications/licenses. Most colleges there's really only a handful of common degrees that actually teach you a skill (nursing, accounting, engineering, computer science, economics).

Even with that being said, literally 4 out of the 5 skilled degrees i just listed you can get certified/full time with a $4000 community college associates degree........... (hell my friend literally just got a 6 figure accounting job with an associates in accounting because while all these kids where farting around getting there bachlors he was actual working for the company, guess who got the job when the job posting was hired ? The person with actual real experience/skills not some university kid with a flashy degree)

This whole myth that you have to go into massive student debt to get a good workforce job is literally a joke.
 
Thank god I live in a country with a leader I can be proud of.

(That's a joke for us Canadians.)
 
Tito vs Alberto brings out the worst in people, society is worse off from this event, its destroyed the sherdog brotherhood, look at us fighting about random things. This fight is the collapse of society
 
Like all "men" of your kind, you have never trained a day in your life. You only watch mma to arouse yourself in a degenerate way. Go to a real gym and see if they accept your kind. If you have a shred of.honour leqve sherdog forever

THIS GUY IS A MASSIVE HOMOPHOBE
 
Blah blah blah, a whole lot of nothing as to pointing out exactly what rights of the Constitution has been taken away from Americans? And exactly what Constitution rights has President Trump violated? You spewing stupidity of CNN, I pointed out facts. Here's another fact, President Trump up the funding for Historical Black Colleges and Universities when he took office to $25 billion dollars up from Obama's $4 billion. And stating The First Step Act Prison Reform is a Fox News talking point when it is an actual fact that President Trump got the 1st Step Prison Reform Act done is simply real news. Being brave behind a keyboard labeling someone a moron and using profanity is a coward's move boy.


Your like my brother from another mother!

#MEGA!
 
That's actual not true at all. 90% of college degrees are theory based and don't actual teach you a real skill.

Really the only jobs that require a bachlors degree are those that require a bachlors for a license/cert or upper mid tier government jobs

This is true. Hell I personally went to massage school for 6 months and make over 70k a year only working part time (lol)

90% of college degrees teach LITERALLY no skills and provide no certfications/licenses. Most colleges there's really only a handful of common degrees that actually teach you a skill (nursing, accounting, engineering, computer science, economics).

Even with that being said, literally 4 out of the 5 skilled degrees i just listed you can get certified/full time with a $4000 community college associates degree........... (hell my friend literally just got a 6 figure accounting job with an associates in accounting because while all these kids where farting around getting there bachlors he was actual working for the company, guess who got the job when the job posting was hired ? The person with actual real experience/skills not some university kid with a flashy degree)

This whole myth that you have to go into massive student debt to get a good workforce job is literally a joke.
Citation needed, yes it's true that sometimes people who have a degree can't find jobs because there isn't enough jobs available in their field of choice. But it's a huge fucking stretch to say that 90% of all college degrees are theory based and that they don't teach people any skills
 
But it's a huge fucking stretch to say that 90% of all college degrees are theory based and that they don't teach people any skills
You must not attend college in the United States

Universities are literally ranked by the number of research papers they publish, not the practical skills the students learn. Professors are hired and fired based on their academic achievement, not their abilities to make undergrads job ready. Professors have a long-standing culture that favors theory over practice. This is a very old cultural practice that dates back to the middle ages. They favor theory because that is what they were taught and so on. Professors also frequently prefer theory as more intellectually satisfying. The journals they write articles for favor theory which reinforces this culture. I've had professors who considered practice as low and beneath them, so intellectually snobbery may occasionally play a role here too.

Literally 8 out of the 10 most popular degrees from my college where all theory based (communications, humanties, history, sports science, sports marketing, criminal justice, political science, sociology).

Huge fucking stretch my ass. Go read what type of basket weaving degrees they offer now it's a joke. 90% of them are literally memorizing/re-hashing decade old ideas with literally no application or skill involved.

This isn't a conspiracy, this is LITERALLY the most common criticism of modern day colleges and a huge reason why people are doing online college (90% of these degrees have no application or no real world skill test so shocker, all the theory is easily accessible from the online version of the classes for much cheaper......... hmmm funny that ??)
 
Was hoping for some fight results in this thread but instead it’s a bunch of phegs arguing. Wtf?
 
Was hoping for some fight results in this thread but instead it’s a bunch of phegs arguing. Wtf?
The 20 to 1 favorite won in the first round.......

There's your ground breaking results your looking for :rolleyes: (what the hell are you expecting ? Expert analysis of a freakshow fight that nobody watched ? )
 
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The 20 to 1 favorite won in the first round.......

There's your ground breaking results your looking for :rolleyes: (what the hell are you expecting ? Expert analysis of a freakshow fight that nobody watched ? )

Thanks for the results. Get back to your deep throat contest.
 
Thanks for the results. Get back to your deep throat contest.
Cute smart-ass comment. We have Tito ortiz over 15 years from his prime fighting a fake wrestler that hadn't competed in MMA for almost a decade. Not exactly sure what highend knowledge or discussion you where hoping to get out of this thread (lol)
 
You must not attend college in the United States

Universities are literally ranked by the number of research papers they publish, not the practical skills the students learn. Professors are hired and fired based on their academic achievement, not their abilities to make undergrads job ready. Professors have a long-standing culture that favors theory over practice. This is a very old cultural practice that dates back to the middle ages. They favor theory because that is what they were taught and so on. Professors also frequently prefer theory as more intellectually satisfying. The journals they write articles for favor theory which reinforces this culture. I've had professors who considered practice as low and beneath them, so intellectually snobbery may occasionally play a role here too.

Literally 8 out of the 10 most popular degrees from my college where all theory based (communications, humanties, history, sports science, sports marketing, criminal justice, political science, sociology).

Huge fucking stretch my ass. Go read what type of basket weaving degrees they offer now it's a joke. 90% of them are literally memorizing/re-hashing decade old ideas with literally no application or skill involved.

This isn't a conspiracy, this is LITERALLY the most common criticism of modern day colleges and a huge reason why people are doing online college (90% of these degrees have no application or no real world skill test so shocker, all the theory is easily accessible from the online version of the classes for much cheaper......... hmmm funny that ??)
I'm currently going to a community college, but that's beside the point.
It sounds like you had a crummy experience when you went to college, but that doesn't mean all colleges are bad. And that doesn't mean 90% of degrees are all theory based and that they teach no skills.
I've had bad experiences with online classes, but that doesn't mean all online classes are bad does it?
 
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