Media "TitLe DEfeNseS aRE tHe oNly thiNg tHat mAtters"

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It's an appeal to low IQ folks: "10 is a bigger number than 3, therefore fighter with 10 defences is the GOAT"... Zero nuance and critical thinking.

What's not taken into account is the path to the title, level of competition, and actual in-cage performance and dominance.

Khabib fought through the shark tank that is modern LW and beat fighters in top 15 that would fight for the title if they were in GSP's WW division. He cut through extremely lethal competition and made it look easy, by the time he reached the title he already had 10 winstreak in the UFC. Absolutely insane to think about.

If Khabib had an easy route like GSP and Silva, he would have comfortably achieved 10+ Title Defenses.

Khabib is GOAT and there is no debate
 
Title defenses aren't the only thing. There is the level of competition and ranked wins.

Plus between Ramadan and injuries Khabib only fought 12 times in the 9 years during his UFC tenure. GSP fought 23 times from 2004-2013 (9years) before he retired.

Khabib would have got a shot much sooner if he was more active.

GSP
Has 19 top 5 wins

Is a two division champion

13 fight win streak

Beat 6 ex UFC Champs

9 title defenses

Has avenged both of his losses in dominating fashion

Every fighter he has ever faced fought for a major organization and has a winning record.

Anderson Silva
13 top 5 wins

17 fight win streak (16 in the UFC)

15 finishes during win streak

Beat 3 ex UFC champs

10 title defenses

3 wins at LHW

Jon Jones
15 top 5 wins

Beat 6 ex UFC champions

Undefeated

14 title defenses

Is moving up to HW

Khabib
4 top 5 wins

Beat 3 ex UFC champions

Undefeated

3 title defenses
 
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Khabib's level of competition certainly got higher once he became champion.
 
Steve-French said:
GSP
Has 19 top 5 wins

Is a two division champion

13 fight win streak

Beat 6 ex UFC Champs

9 title defenses

Has avenged both of his losses in dominating fashion

Every fighter he has ever faced fought for a major organization and has a winning record.

Anderson Silva
13 top 5 wins

17 fight win streak (16 in the UFC)

15 finishes during win streak

Beat 3 ex UFC champs

10 title defenses

3 wins at LHW

Jon Jones
15 top 5 wins

Beat 6 ex UFC champions

Undefeated

14 title defenses

Is moving up to HW

Khabib
4 top 5 wins

Beat 3 ex UFC champions

Undefeated

3 title defenses
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In GSP's WW era, fighters making their UFC debut would fight GSP for the title.
Don't even joke about comparing modern LW shark tank to GSP's WW, look past the rankings and numbers, you simpleton
 
What a dumbass post, if anything it shows that Khabib fought a lot of NOBODIES to get a shot at the title, which padded his 13-0 record considerably (oh oh but he's undefeatedd that's why he's the Goaat).

This is why he only has 5 notable wins in his whole 12 year career.

You face your biggest challenge AFTER you win the belt because you only fight real contenders from that point and in 5 rounders. It's like comparing Usman's WW winstreak to GSP's, it's just not comparable. Title defense is the most important thing as a P4P GOAT candidate.

Keep in mind that it's also Khabib's fault over injuries and horrible weight cuts which lead to cancelled fights that he has to earn his title shot again. The guy is a WW killing himself to make weight at LW for a size advantage.
 
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Steve-French said:
Title defenses aren't the only thing. There is the level of competition and ranked wins.

Plus between Ramadan and injuries Khabib only fought 12 times in the 9 years he was in the UFC. He would a got a shot much sooner if he was more active.

GSP
Has 19 top 5 wins

Is a two division champion

13 fight win streak

Beat 6 ex UFC Champs

9 title defenses

Has avenged both of his losses in dominating fashion

Every fighter he has ever faced fought for a major organization and has a winning record.

Anderson Silva
13 top 5 wins

17 fight win streak (16 in the UFC)

15 finishes during win streak

Beat 3 ex UFC champs

10 title defenses

3 wins at LHW

Jon Jones
15 top 5 wins

Beat 6 ex UFC champions

Undefeated

14 title defenses

Is moving up to HW

Khabib
4 top 5 wins

Beat 3 ex UFC champions

Undefeated

3 title defenses
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Lol youve inflated everyone’s top 5 wins so badly. Barboza, who’s not a “top 5” win is a much better fighter than the likes of Dan Hardy and Patrick Cote

Also, it’s easier to have more top 5 wins when there’s only 15-20 fighters per division.

UFC LW division has 80+ rostered right now, compared to 10-12 when Penn was champ
 
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Khabib is my GOAT but damn this debate's really boiling over, huh? Is Khabib vs. Jones trending higher than Trump vs. Biden? haha
I'm all but ready to talk about other fights.
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Times are different though. Back then, fights outside of the UFC actually meant something. It was not uncommon to see fighters come get a title shot mainly due to their accomplishments outside of the UFC.

Nowadays, the UFC has become it's own minor league so it'll take longer for fighters to get title shots.
 
PulsingJones said:


It's an appeal to low IQ folks: "10 is a bigger number than 3, therefore fighter with 10 defences is the GOAT"... Zero nuance and critical thinking.

What's not taken into account is the path to the title, level of competition, and actual in-cage performance and dominance.

Khabib fought through the shark tank that is modern LW and beat fighters in top 15 that would fight for the title if they were in GSP's WW division. He cut through extremely lethal competition and made it look easy, by the time he reached the title he already had 10 winstreak in the UFC. Absolutely insane to think about.

If Khabib had an easy route like GSP and Silva, he would have comfortably achieved 10+ Title Defenses.

Khabib is GOAT and there is no debate
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I love the injured revisionist history bullshit that makes it like the UFC and unfortunate circumstances conspired against him.

he missed weight twice.

how can you give a LW title shot to a fighter that has a history of rocking up as a WW?

khabib has to take responsibility for his own actions.

Khabib is the LW GOAT not the overall GOAT.
 
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RiotWyatt said:
Times are different though. Back then, fights outside of the UFC actually meant something. It was not uncommon to see fighters come get a title shot mainly due to their accomplishments outside of the UFC.

Nowadays, the UFC has become it's own minor league so it'll take longer for fighters to get title shots.
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Not just that, LW is literally LOG JAMMED with talent, fighters were amassing ridiculous win streaks never had a shot at the title, it's extremely foolish to suggest that since fighters like Barboza weren't "Top 5' then they were somehow weak competition.

Again, lack of nuance and appeal to low IQ by GSP/Jones fans
 
Danespina said:
UFC Record

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I hope this doesn't lead to boxing like regional padding.

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It's funny how that first half of his record is arguably more impressive than that second half.

Prime RDA stands above anyone else on there.

Healy was on a tear and had just shocked the MMA world by dismantling Jim Miller.

Trujillo, Tavares, Tibau and Shalorus are just as good of names as Johnson, Barboza and Iaquinta.
 
My 4 year old just saw the picture by accidend and yelled at me: ,,heyy, there's an ape-men in the picture i want to see."

Turned out he meant Khabib.
 
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