News Titanic Tours Submersible missing in atlantic ocean

Doughie99 said:
i'm sure the hull is only titanium or an alloy of titanium. Carbon-fibre i'd guess was used for certain parts to save weight etc but I very much doubt carbon-fibre was used for the hull. Certainly from the video of Stockton Rush showing the Titan sub, the hull looks 100% metal.

My view is they'd really have to get the U.S. Navy's rescue submersible there TODAY if they're gonna have any chance of :
1) finding Titan
2) getting it back to surface.
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No, apparently only the end cap pieces are titanium and the cylinder body is carbon fibre. Surprising I know.
 
Rhood said:
Attention Sherdog:
You seein' this shit?


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That looks claustrophobic as hell
 
TTech said:
One would think that for 250k a piece, the company would have a drone/remote controled submersible that would observe their descent for safety. Or at the very least maintain a communication open all the time that is not dependant on the submarines power. Its 2023, it shouldnt be a problem, if nothing else, dont they have range extenders like one has for wifi, only underwater to bounce and amplify the signal off.
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I would think for $250k a piece they could attach a string to it at least. A 2 mile long string so they can at least find the damn thing! Not to mentioned a cable that could slowly pull the thing back up if needed.

You can get 3 MILES of this stuff for $500 :)

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For $10k you can get 3 miles of this.

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Ruprecht said:
No, apparently only the end cap piece is titanium and the body is carbon fibre. Surprising I know.
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oh ok. good to know.
I ....just don';t trust carbon fiber that much. Has a tendency to shatter under certain conditions.
I know SpaceX uses COPV's for many of it's gas / liquid containment vessels on Falcon9 and FalconHeavy (COPV = Carbon Overwrapped Pressure Vessel) but in a rocket, WEIGHT issues are super important. I don't quite see weight being so important in a deep-diving submersible, 100% reliability is all that matters.
 
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TheNinja said:
I would think for $250k a piece they could attach a string to it at least. A 2 mile long string so they can at least find the damn thing! Not to mentioned a cable that could slowly pull the thing back up if needed.

You can get 3 MILES of this stuff for $500 :)

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For $10k you can get 3 miles of this.

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a cable attached to it would have high likelihood of tangling in the Titanic wreckage as the sub gets very close to it.

plus....i doubt the mothership is equipped for a 2.5mile cable. Plus it'd be so heavy (steel) that the sub wouldn't be able to freely manoeuver with a steel cable attrached. Plus there's the issue of drift in the currents. Probably need a 3mile or 4mile cable.

plus the 2 parts of Titanic are 800meters (1/2 mile apart).......

too long, too heavy, tangle chances = very high, massively restrict free movement of the sub = not workable.
 
Doughie99 said:
a cable attached to it would have high likelihood of tangling in the Titanic wreckage as the sub gets very close to it.

plus....i doubt the mothership is equipped for a 2.5mile cable. Plus it'd be so heavy (steel) that the sub wouldn't be able to freely manoeuver with a steel cable attrached. Plus there's the issue of drift in the currents. Probably need a 3mile or 4mile cable.

plus the 2 parts of Titanic are 800meters (1/2 mile apart).......

too long, too heavy, tangle chances = very high, massively restrict free movement of the sub = not workable.
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Ya...I was 90% joking. I know it's not feasable to have a cable, but my messed up mind had to chuckle at the thought explaining what is going on to the passengers :) - "Welcome aboard....thanks for the $250k....we are now going to attach a $500 piece of yarn to our sub incase we get lost"
 
Rhood said:
Attention Sherdog:
You seein' this shit?


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if thats what they used then you think a BILLIONAIRE would only use top of the line James Cameron type of shit!

And no seats with belts? So even if they do recover them and use air balloons to bring them back to the surface, they would go tumbling during that ride.
 
ModernMatt said:
if thats what they used then you think a BILLIONAIRE would only use top of the line James Cameron type of shit!

And no seats with belts? So even if they do recover them and use air balloons to bring them back to the surface, they would go tumbling during that ride.
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I think air balloons would be unworkable at that depth due to the pressure....it just crushes everything that's not got a hull of inches of steel alloy or titanium alloy.
plus.....when the sub rose the massive pressure drop when rising would burst any air balloon on the way up (even if it were possible to inflate them at 2.5miles down, which it would not be possible anyway).
A bit like a divers lungs would burst IF they do not exhale slowly on the way up from depth. Plus attaching air balloons ...... very hard.
Air balloons work well at normal diving depths though.
 
https://oceanexplorer.noaa.gov/technology/subs/rovs/rovs.html

The eight-kilometer-long steel cable that connects remotely operated vehicle Seirios with NOAA Ship Okeanos Explorer. This tether, which is unspooled from a storage drum within the ship, brings electrical power and signals to the ROV while returning live video feeds to the ship. Image courtesy of Annie White, GFOE.


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yeah, its weird, but it seems cable is an option
 
Cielo_ said:
Makes no sense. People buy 100k-200k cars all the time. Are we supposed to just not do what we want anymore?

Let’s stop pushing the boundaries of technology and what humans are capable of because there are drug addicts shitting on the streets in San Francisco.

Shouldn’t people be more upset with the billions spent each year on homelessness in California with seemingly no benefit?
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Yea ask them about tax dollars wasted on "social programs" and watch their eyes glaze over.
 
Obviously I hope it doesnt end tragically. Im just wondering how exactly you would rescue a submarine at that depth that may have lost power? Id assume youd have to tow it somehow? But you cant attach cables manually? The whole thing seems like a logistical clusterfuck.
 
Bob Gray said:
Obviously I hope it doesnt end tragically. Im just wondering how exactly you would rescue a submarine at that depth that may have lost power? Id assume youd have to tow it somehow? But you cant attach cables manually? The whole thing seems like a logistical clusterfuck.
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It amazing they go down there without a backup that is purely mechanical/analog with no need for power. There is adventurous spirit and then theres irresponsible and nuts. That is super frightening to go down there and know you cannot be pulled up...f that.
 
Dream Evil said:
Seems like god is actively trying to kill them. I'd put my faith in a man-led rescue team.
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Has there been any updates or news about communications?

have they been able to communicate or is it just radio silence…
 
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