Tips on finishing from the mount

[JerseyTrash]

Recently I've gotten a lot better at sweeps, and so I've been sweeping people and taking mount left and right. The problem is when I'm rolling with someone stronger, if they just sort of grab their collar, or just muscle out of it when I grab their arm I can't make anything happen. I grab for their collar, they protect it...I grab at the arm, they overpower me, or if I only have it half decent, they roll into it when I finally go for the armbar. Can anyone help me with this?

 

[green_machine]

If you go for an armbar from the mount and they roll into you to defend it, they are setting themselves up for an omoplata. I get the majority of my omoplatas against guys that try to muscle out of fishy situations and just leave their arm there for it. All you're doing is countering their counter with another submission.

 

[bjjdude001]

do you just want to work from mount?
I like to go to side control as i sweep. Going to mount can be dangerous if they can push your kneeand get half guard.As you turn them over with butterfly sweep (hooking guard) dismount halfway though the sweep (prevents them getting half guard) and work arm and choke from there . if theydefend you have more options in subs and changing position. hope it helps

 

[Calibur]

Recently I've gotten a lot better at sweeps, and so I've been sweeping people and taking mount left and right. The problem is when I'm rolling with someone stronger, if they just sort of grab their collar, or just muscle out of it when I grab their arm I can't make anything happen. I grab for their collar, they protect it...I grab at the arm, they overpower me, or if I only have it half decent, they roll into it when I finally go for the armbar. Can anyone help me with this?

A) Use the S-mount

B) Keep your legs relaxed and let your opponent roll himself into backmount.

 

[Tony Manifold]

do you just want to work from mount?
I like to go to side control as i sweep. Going to mount can be dangerous if they can push your kneeand get half guard.As you turn them over with butterfly sweep (hooking guard) dismount halfway though the sweep (prevents them getting half guard) and work arm and choke from there . if theydefend you have more options in subs and changing position. hope it helps

I agree. Most of the time I am in the mount, I try to secure and arm triangle then hope of to the side. I also don't like arm baring from the guard. In order of preference I like: Arm Triangle, sleeve choke, americana, collar choke.

 

[vitor3000]

I agree with using the S-Mount. If your going for the choke and your opponent defends by protecting his neck, his arms are most likely to be exposed for an armbar.

 

[HuntingtonBeach]

if your new, try going for a halfassed cross collar choke attempt.

When they defend they have to put there arm up, when they do go for an armbar.

 

[blink_man182]

You can try going for a kimora or americana. But like said already, if you go for the arm bar and they try to roll onto you there setting themselves up for something else like an omoplata or a triangle.

I wouldn't worry too much about the strength factor either. Work on improving technique.

 

[Newcastle]

Great thread! I had this very problem today rolling at the gym. I could get mount repeatedly but was overpowered by a stronger opponent when attempting subs. I did eventually roll him and finished w/a RNC. :icon_chee

 

[bjjdude001]

If they start to bridge and roll holding your arm post to stop the roll and switch to reverse armbar.i like to bait the white belts by placing my arm on there chest and let them claim it and go for the roll as they push you go with it and switch your hips and slide your far chin to the back of there neck to keep there head down. if they do lift there head up hook it with the same chin (back of chin)and roll into rolling armbar.

 

[Vaga]

chin = shin?

 

[easy tiger]

Grab the lower part of the gi and open it up, creating a pathway with one hand. Your other hand can just follow the fabric all the way into the collar, bypassing his hands protecting his collar usually. Work your cross collar choke, and creep up higher. Combine it with the armbar and basic wing choke from S-mount