Tips for the new fighters starting out, Please sticky this MODS

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  1. Josh Harley

    Josh Harley Blue Belt Professional Fighter

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    First things first, to fight in any safe organization you are going to have to get medicals done, Usually Hep B/C, HIV as well as an EKG/ECG. Some places require more such as a CT scan and an eye exam.

    Get this stuff early on so you aren't struggling to meet the deadline, no promotor likes the guy who can't get the medical stuff done in time.


    Train as hard as you can for the fight, Work on your weak areas and really stress your cardio.. You might feel in the greatest shape and think you are a worldbeater, but at the end of the day nerves drain your gas faster and harder than anything else.

    As for formulating a game plan, most good camps do this, especially if you have tape on your opponent.. As a beginner I don't honestly know if its always the best idea.. you might think you have your gameplan down to a T. but trust me, game plans go out the window in a quick hurry as soon as you get hammered with a punch or kick. work all areas and just remember anything can happen.

    I see guys who are studs in jujitsu get their ass kicked in a fight because trying to apply a sub is far harder when your getting smashed from guard.

    Cut out the drinking and the late nights a good month before you fight, watch what you eat, and regulate your weight. the less you have to cut your first few fights, the better you will perform. I know a lot of camps tend to try a practice cut, especially if you are moving down a weightclass or you haven't tried cutting weight before.

    Listen to your coaches and follow their direction. they should know your strength's and weaknesses and if they are a good coach they should know you better than you know yourself.

    For your first fight or two, try to fight away from home. Not near as much pressure if you don't have your friends and family there. If you win, you can show them the pictures and footage anyways.. the less distraction the better,

    Act like a good person, You don't need to be a ****y piece of shit to be a fighter. People don't respect that at the end of the day, Be humble, Help out in your community, volunteer. Help others at the gym. Be a role model to the younger people at the gym,

    Once weigh ins are finished, rehydrate as fast as possible, with nutritious stuff, Pedialite is the best thing around I would say, Eat food right away and then shower, change and go for a much needed meal. Order a steak or something, chicken etc etc etc,

    the night before I always go to a new movie at the movie theatre, hang out with the guys, my corner, my trainer, the last thing on my mind at that point is the fight itself,

    get a good sleep, in bed by 11 pm.. sleep until you wake up. don't set an alarm. have a good solid breakfast, I stick to fruit or a salad.

    Go shopping to the mall, or walk around and see the sites, we always do this when we are out of town.. I have subway for lunch everytime,

    head back to the hotel and sneak in a nap if you like. I like to have a hot bath with bath salts, shave, make myself all pretty for the war that night,

    go for dinner, I tend to keep it light, a salad. most people eat a pasta, I might have a small portion of that. I munch on fruit every 20 minutes or so until I start warming up.


    get your hands taped, signed off on and get gloves that fit. make sure they fit comfortable with your wraps. no pinching anywhere and no pain or tightness in your hands. Make sure whoever is taping your hands is good at it and doesn't take ages doing it. you need proper time to warm up afterwards

    Once my hands are taped I go out and chat with people, Enjoy the venue, look at the beautiful women, talk to the fans, go out there and soak it all in. try to stay calm.

    Check out the ring/cage, bounce around, invision yourself in their preparing to fight,

    I then watch a fight or two, head back to the locker room and start warming up. When I am cold I stick to boxing and elbows, Go nice and light working on defence and handspeed,

    I go back out and poke around in the venue a little more,

    Head back into the locker room and warm up harder this time, Stretch my neck, work my sprawl, start incorporating kicks into the padwork, as well as knees,


    Have a quick nap if you can, 15-20 minutes is normal for me,

    Start warming up hard, To the point of slight fatigue. you want to get that lactic acid out so you don't feel so sluggish halfway through the first round,

    once you get the call that your on deck, I put my in and usually listen to some music, amazing by kanye west keeps me calm but gets me ready to fight at the same time.

    when your song starts playing out you go, enjoy the moment, don't rush to the cage, soak it all in. remember why you are there.

    Touch gloves, don't be a dick about it, fight hard, fight fair and put on a show, keep the ego in check win or lose,


    If you win, be gracious, be humble and check on the other guy,

    if you lose, who cares, losing sucks.. but at the end of the day you still had the balls to step in there and do something most people only dream of doing, Props to you win or lose,

    Enjoy the after party, take a few days off, and head back to the gym,



    Merging this thread with another I have written



    First off when you choose a gym and you start to train and feel yourself progressing, you need to remember that everything you are doing is controlled with an instructor there as well as a partner who is working at 20-30%.

    I remember my first kickboxing tournament I entered. I came out and threw a light legkick and got blasted with a right hand and it had me wobbled for a second. I remember thinking to myself, what the hell, this is nothing like training!

    Just because you may look like a stud in the gym or hitting pads doesn't mean you can fight. As the old saying goes, pads don't hit back.

    Work as many lifelike drills as possible. sparring is a must, and learning to eat shots. If you know anything about Ali, it was said that he would let guys beat him up in sparring. In fact if you would watch him spar he didn't look like a very good boxer. He would let people hit him hard over and over. this transitioned into him defeating george foreman after taking a helacious beating for 5 rounds.

    another very good drill is standing against a wall (back to the wall) and letting a partner throw strikes at you. you are not allowed to move off the wall or move left and right. all you can do is defend to the best of your ability. Work your shell, head movement, parry/catch etc. This will greatly help your defence in the long run.




    I had a muay thai coach years ago who taught me most of what I know. Once he started seriously training me he gave me a very good tip.. He said that when you walk around in daily life and hurt yourself (stub your toe, etc) don't scream out in pain and swear. Just breath and ignore it. Pain is nothing, learn to toughen yourself up in every aspect, mental strength > physical strength.




    KICKBOXING AND MUAY THAI.



    When you are training for your first fight the most important strike/strikes I would say to learn are your jab and your push kick.

    when you have your first few fights no matter how well you trained or how many times you have competed before, they will be a blur. Usually the first time someone gets hit hard their gameplan goes out the window. Learning a wicked teep or pushkick will help you keep the fight at your pace as well as stop the shoot if your opponent is far enough back.

    I have seen fights where guys are throwing spinning backfists, hook kicks etc and they have shitty roundhouse kicks and even worse push kicks... Learn the fundamentals of every martial art before you tackle the flashy stuff.

    Another tip I believe to be very important is too work throwing a roundhouse kick everytime you break a clinch. Everytime I clinch in training I make sure I am the one to disengage and I make sure I throw a head kick on my way out. If the guys hands are down you are going to catch him.




    WRESTLING

    If i could change any one thing in my martial arts experience, I would have learned to wrestle before anything else. being able to dictate where the fight takes place is so important. Wrestlers who learn to strike and learn to stop subs are nearly unstoppable.

    Learn to get comfortable with the distance of a shot and learn to time strikes behind it. A good jab into a double leg always works well.

    Another good drill is to do muay thai rounds while a third person kicks an excercise ball at you. every time the ball gets close to you, sprawl on top of it. Bounce back up and kick the ball back and continue on with your rounds. This will help you learn the speed and explosiveness you need to have a good sprawl.

    LEARN WRESTLING


    BJJ


    learn the basics, rear naked choke, triangle, armbar from guard, from mount etc. Kimura from side control as well as an americana.

    Learn how to defend them 10x as good as you learn how to execute them. (my subs are awful but my sub defence is far better)

    Guillotines can work well but the problem is that when an un experienced guy goes for one he tends to drop to guard as soon as he gets it. the opponent escapes and you end up on your back.

    If you get a guillotine DO NOT DROP TO YOUR BACK. try to finish it standing, this way if you fail with it at least you can go to a thai clinch and blast some knees.

    POSITION BEFORE SUBMISSION

    BJ Penn is an amazing example of this. People don't realize how good his jujitsu actually is, He doesn't use flashy subs ever. but if he gets your back your fucked. I remember talking to Joe daddy in montreal after one of the UFC's and he told me he had never felt control like that before when BJ got ahold of him.

    Here are 3 videos of me training recently, really upped my training

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bDMRkSq080&feature=youtu.be

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZNILM_csyk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sh7CSvdfskI&feature=youtu.be


    Enjoy,


    Keep Kicking,

    JH
     
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  2. Staring At Fate

    Staring At Fate Refuse To Lose.

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    Good read.... Thanks for putting up other fighters post some tips up as well. I personally plan on training for two years before stepping in the ring for the first time. I want to be extremely confident with my skill set.
     
  3. BurreB

    BurreB Blue Belt

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    Good read, thanks for posting.
     
  4. a.rose

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    +1 for sticky.

    Nice read. Thanks for posting.

    Hopefully some more fighters can post there tips and pre-fight ritual.
     
  5. NSanders

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    Make sure your oponent knows that your going to touch gloves. Don't be afraid to walk up to the guy and ask him. Eat a couple bananas for lunch and breakfast as well.

    I personally try to fight as early as possible like fight # 1 or 2. I like being able to sit back and enjoy the rest of the card after i get my hands untapped.
     
  6. James Fuller

    James Fuller Amateur Fighter

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    Great thread! Thanks for your words of wisdom duder.
     
  7. mega_master

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    Nice thread! It should be made a Sticky.

    Man, I get nervous and excited just by reading about your preparation before a fight. I have competed in amateur boxing, so I know the feeling. The funny thing for me is that the more nervous I have been before a fight, the better I have performed. My reflexes and reactions were always better than in training. So if you ask me, nervousness could be a good sign that you will do good in the ring/cage, as long as it isn't fear.
     
  8. Josh Harley

    Josh Harley Blue Belt Professional Fighter

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    yo mods? sticky this? only took 4 hours to write.. I am horrible at computers,

    please and thank you
     
  9. tysnw

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    sticky support from me.

    this is all kinds of fantastic

    thanks josh, i hope you smash your next opponent!
     
  10. kdawg32086

    kdawg32086 Blue Belt

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    GREAT read. Thanks a lot for posting. As someone who has been training for about a year and a half and hopes to fight in another year or so, this helps a lot.
     
  11. hughes fan

    hughes fan Silver Belt

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    I'd back making this sticky. Well wrote and good points.
     
  12. zx

    zx adventurer

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    Great read man. Very informative.
     
  13. DragonShark

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    thanks! a really helpful thread
     
  14. Apple Lotion

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    Do amateur fighters get laid often by fans? Like pro wrestlers?
     
  15. Gabicho

    Gabicho Brown Belt

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    Other stuff i consider important:

    - Have someone from your gym help you with your gear. Check for your mouthpiece, shorts, water, cup, a small towel and that's that - those are your combat tools. The rest - med kit, pedialite, latex gloves, vaseline, tape, etc, AND a reserve cup, shorts, and mouthpiece, should be taken care of by your team. You should not distract yourself getting and ferrying stuff that gets you out of focus.

    - Make sure to go to the bathroom before your last warmup, even if you don't feel like you have to. You want to make sure you won't be fighting with a full bladder or colon.

    - If you think your opponent is cheating, tell the ref AND do to your corner. They are there to support you. Do not discuss with the ref, tell your corner. They should get the ref to stop the fight for your opponent to be warned/checked/cleaned up. You should not distract yourself arguing with the ref.

    - Sometimes during warmups, if you are bare footed, your feet soles will get covered with a lyer of dirt. That dirt can cause you to slip over some types of canvas, so it doesn't hurt to put some water on your feet to remove it before you actually get into the ring.

    - If you feel hurt/exhausted after the fight is over, tell your team. That way they can keep an eye of you if they take you home or to party.

    - If you can't hear what your corner is telling you, tell them when the round is over. They should start shouting louder (or you should start paying attention!).

    I learned some of this from my first fight.
     
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  16. Josh Harley

    Josh Harley Blue Belt Professional Fighter

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    bump, the fighter I described at the beggining of this.. My big bro, Makes his UFC Debut tonight!
     
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    Great thread! I support this being stickied for sure.
     
  18. Kevo589

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    Really really good read. I definently back a sticky for this
     
  19. Umbra

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    For those of you who plan on cutting weight; I recommend doing a practice run before you do it for an actual fight so you know how your body is going to feel and what's necessary to recover. It took me several fights to get my weight cutting technique down (I cut around 20-25lbs. to make 155).

    For your first few fights though I would recommend fighting at your natural weight and cut no more than 5lbs. Maybe 10 if you have some extra flab
     
  20. Greyman

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    Good post, Josh. Thanks for posting it here.
     

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