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Agree 100%, 10-point system is flawed.
Throwback: Dana White explains how fights should be judged (hint: it is about damage)
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Agree 100%, 10-point system is flawed.
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you know there are.......rules that say how judges judge a fight right?
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People bitch about the judging after every close fight
The judging is fine for the most part
The judging is fine for the most part
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Dana has CTE from his days teaching boxercise.
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Damage should be the most heavily rewarded. If a guy lands bombs every round and almost finishes he should win the round over the guy that just peppers or wrestle fucks for points.
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Submission or KO only fights.
It would stop all the point fighting. It would make for way more exciting fights. Keep 3 rounds and it is a draw after that.
It would stop all the point fighting. It would make for way more exciting fights. Keep 3 rounds and it is a draw after that.
You also have to consider a guy's ability to take (and fight through) damage.
I think the best way to judge is based on "created danger", meaning danger of actually finishing the fight. If light punches all day aren't creating a situation towards finishing the fight then they shouldn't be considered. Rather just consider the submission attempts that might work, the strikes that might cause KO, and anything that can accumulate (like kicks to the lead leg) towards a stoppage. All the rest -- holding center of the cage, moving forwards, time on top, etc. are meaningless unless it creates some danger of a finish.
I think the best way to judge is based on "created danger", meaning danger of actually finishing the fight. If light punches all day aren't creating a situation towards finishing the fight then they shouldn't be considered. Rather just consider the submission attempts that might work, the strikes that might cause KO, and anything that can accumulate (like kicks to the lead leg) towards a stoppage. All the rest -- holding center of the cage, moving forwards, time on top, etc. are meaningless unless it creates some danger of a finish.
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Some things about the judging system need to be changed i agree. Like the aggression thing, you could have a guy coming forward all fight vs a counter fighter and not really doing anything but pressure and how many times do we are them get the decision? It's nuts but there are so many things going on in an mma fight
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3 rounds with a 2 minute sudden death after??
Give the fighters a 2-3 min break after the last round then let them go at it?
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Let them bang bro
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Naw take anderson vs chael, say anderson busts open Chael, chael then panics and take anderson down and lands pillow fists that do no damage. anderson looks fresh dazy and could go to the club, chael looks loke he fought a lion, who won?
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In a perfect world, the first guy should win the round.
Point fighting is overrated and a cancer to the sport.
Plus round by round scoring is shit and needs to be done away with. PRIDE scoring ftw
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Despite how much shit everyone talks about him online, Dana gets a huge cheer in almost every pre-fight press conference.
Dana is an alpha and betas will talk shit about alphas online but won't do it live, even if they're insulated by other crowd members.
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I don't know that the criteria is necessarily bad. Damage is scored, it's part of effective striking. The scoring is just applied poorly by some judges they hire. The thing that I think really needs to change is the round by round scoring. Nothing worse than watching a fighter win 2 rounds by a narrow margin and get curbstomped in the third only to pull off the decision. With there only being three rounds it just isn't enough to award whole rounds.
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It does according to the rules:
Effective Striking/Grappling shall be considered the first priority of round assessments. Effective Aggressiveness is a ‘Plan B’ and should not be considered unless the judge does not see ANY advantage in the Effective Striking/Grappling realm. Cage/Ring Control (‘Plan C’) should only be needed when ALL other criteria are 100% even for both competitors. This will be an extremely rare occurrence.
PRIORITIZED CRITERIA: Effective Striking/Grappling
“Legal blows that have immediate or cumulative impact with the potential to contribute towards the end of the match with the IMMEDIATE weighing in more heavily than the cumulative impact.
Successful execution of takedowns, submission attempts, reversals and the achievement of advantageous positions that produce immediate or cumulative impact with the potential to contribute to the end of the match, with the IMMEDIATE weighing more heavily than the cumulative impact.” It shall be noted that a successful takedown is not merely a changing of position, but the establishment of an attack from the use of the takedown. Top and bottom position fighters are assessed more on the impactful/effective result of their actions, more so than their position. This criterion will be the deciding factor in a high majority of decisions when scoring a round. The next two criteria must be treated as a backup and used ONLY when Effective Striking/Grappling is 100% equal for the round.
