This is what Daido juku kudo is all about

shinkyoku

Brown Belt
@Brown
Joined
Jun 21, 2008
Messages
4,807
Reaction score
3,047
If you do not know what daido juku kudo is (have you been living under a rock?), it is a mix of kyokushin karate + judo. It is basically MMA in a Gi and a silly looking helmet.

 
i really enjoy watching this type of competition ,, next to mma , its as real as it gets
 
I do both Judo (just less than a year) & kyokushin, never done kudo, wouldn't recommend it either from what I've seen and heard of it, better to learn judo & kyokushin separately - seen many kudo guys with poor technical skills.
 
Also shows how dangerous it is to grapple with your opponent, score a sound takedown, yet get reversed into the receiving end of GNP.

KarateStylist
 
i really enjoy watching this type of competition ,, next to mma , its as real as it gets

Dude, what is up with the commas? At first I figured it was just typos but you do it in every post.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I do both Judo (just less than a year) & kyokushin, never done kudo, wouldn't recommend it either from what I've seen and heard of it, better to learn judo & kyokushin separately - seen many kudo guys with poor technical skills.

I think Kudo is cool but like you say a lot of their guys do seem to be more brawlers than high-level technicians.

There were some good, precise techniques landed in that vid, though.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
I respect what kudo guys do, you have to give respect where it's due, but from a kyokushin stand point, some of these guys have really bad technical problems, poor positioning, no sense of coordinated footwork or movement - it's non existant, barely any strategy or thought almost all of them brawl - it's more appalling though how many Kudo guys have such poor understanding of balance, you'd think it would be even more important because of the nage-waza, even some of the techniques thrown here and there are pretty poor from a techical stand-point, there's quite alot of stuff that's really shoddy especially overall defense and especially how nothing is put together well stand up wise but then again I've never fought in a Kudo tournament, so maybe it's different when it actually comes down to it.

However I'm more inclined to believe it's the result of the style - daido juku - this is why I'm not a fan of hybrid styles, if some of these guys had learnt judo & kyokushin separately.....I mean the founder Takashi Azuma learnt both separately...


I feel like I'm going on a rant here, but I feel strongly about this I suppose, since I do Kyokushin and picked up Judo (and probably going to pick up yiquan/taikkiken), the way I combine the two looks very different & isn't so aggressive, a good example is Katsunori kikuno, same arts but execution looks completely different.
 
However I'm more inclined to believe it's the result of the style - daido juku - this is why I'm not a fan of hybrid styles, if some of these guys had learnt judo & kyokushin separately.....I mean the founder Takashi Azuma learnt both separately...

You could make the argument the other way, though.

Hybrid styles should have already worked out how to properly integrate the two so that the striking flows seamlessly into the grappling. For someone who learns both separately, they have to figure that out on their own.
 
I too think that you should train both kyokushin and judo for a good base, and then train Daido juku.
Daido juku is very good in its way, but it does occasionally seem like they suffer from the "jack of all trade, master of none" syndrome.

But you need to train both "parts" integrated too, and that is where Daido juku comes in.

 
BTW, it is interesting to see that the best of Daido juku now are Russians, not Japanese.

 



(I wish I could find a real-speed version of this one)
 
I respect what kudo guys do, you have to give respect where it's due, but from a kyokushin stand point, some of these guys have really bad technical problems, poor positioning, no sense of coordinated footwork or movement - it's non existant, barely any strategy or thought almost all of them brawl - it's more appalling though how many Kudo guys have such poor understanding of balance, you'd think it would be even more important because of the nage-waza, even some of the techniques thrown here and there are pretty poor from a techical stand-point, there's quite alot of stuff that's really shoddy especially overall defense and especially how nothing is put together well stand up wise but then again I've never fought in a Kudo tournament, so maybe it's different when it actually comes down to it.

However I'm more inclined to believe it's the result of the style - daido juku - this is why I'm not a fan of hybrid styles, if some of these guys had learnt judo & kyokushin separately.....I mean the founder Takashi Azuma learnt both separately...


I feel like I'm going on a rant here, but I feel strongly about this I suppose, since I do Kyokushin and picked up Judo (and probably going to pick up yiquan/taikkiken), the way I combine the two looks very different & isn't so aggressive, a good example is Katsunori kikuno, same arts but execution looks completely different.

You nailed it. Your assessment is exactly what I experienced when I trained Kudo. I
 
Last edited:
[/QUOTE]

...and still he won. saying something about the level of the fight.
Not exactly world level.
 


...and still he won. saying something about the level of the fight.
Not exactly world level.[/QUOTE]

Yep. That is what I said. The video says it all. This dude would be much better off if, instead of training Kudo, he practised separately a grappling discipline (wrestling, Judo, BJJ) and another striking art (Muay Thai, Kyokushin, Boxing, Shotokan, ITF TKD, WTF TKD...).

Apparently he has an idea about what to do (when to kick, when to punch, when to take his opponent down, when to try to pass his guard...) but his techniques are extremely poor, which probably means that he has been shown every move about one or two times, and did not practise them thoroughly. And that is EXACTLY the problem with these all-encompassing styles (Daido Juku, Gong Kwon Yu Sul..) : you try to do so many different things during class that you end up with mediocre skills in every area of combat. In the end, these guys develop "less than wrestling/judo takedowns", "less than BJJ ground game" and "less than ______(insert your striking art of choice here) standup technique". And why is that? Because the instructor teaching you each discipline is not a specialist.
 
Back
Top