Things we learned this weekend..

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As much as I'd love to trash talk Connor McGregor after falling to Nate Diaz, I can't. He took a shot, missed, and for that miss, Meisha Tate fulfilled a dream and 20 other fighters got paychecks. Food got put on many tables because Connor didn't play it safe. The card would have folded if he had.

Holly Holm could have sat on the sidelines waiting for Ronda to return, but she didn't. As a true Championship quality fighter, she wanted to fight and up until her mistake, was winning her first defence. She didn't whine afterwards. She didn't cry. She, in true Championship form, wanted a rematch the next day. Say what you will, but I'd rather a fighting Champion than a safe Champion. Holm will get a rematch one day and she will win that title back. She's that good.

What did we learn though? Well, two of the most marketable Champions had/have very suspect ground games. Holm when taken down had nothing to offer. Connor when taken down had nothing either. Both were submitted. Both lost.

This is MMA. This isn't "I'm a boxer who hopes no one tries to take me down". Two Champions showed us that they aren't complete martial artists. They aren't close to being as well rounded as they say in interviews, or suggest through the multitude of prefight shows that detail their sparring routines. Not even close. People mocked Nate Diaz for continually saying "Who are your training partners?", yet it's the high level of his camp (and toughness) that pulled out this win for him. He was comfortable everywhere, including using his face to block punches. That's saying something. Blood, his blood, didn't make him shy away from contact or make him rush into a mistake. It was another day at the office. I've been critical of the Diaz brothers for years but I gained a shit load of respect for them this weekend. I've always liked Nate's fighting style but now I'm a fan of his heart. He can't sell a fight worth shit because he's awkward in front of a microphone or camera. It'll be hard for the UFC to sell him to fans because of the historic refusal of the Diaz brothers to play the game, and do the media availability, but now they have to. Diaz proved he belongs at the top and deserves to be paid.

So what did we learn? Connor McGregor and Holly Holm deserve top marks for being real fighters, but a failing grade for well rounded games. Nate Diaz deserves a title shot in whatever weight class he wants. He proved he's a fighter but more importantly, a company guy. Short notice fight, tall order win. We also learned that as arrogant as McGregor is, he can also be humble.

From my point of view, the only person that lost anything on Saturday was Brian Caraway. After Meisha's "red boxer brief night" comment, his manliness died, but he still got laid, by a UFC Champion. It still had to hurt though.
 
Only read the title but i learned not to flinch how to play touchbutt and how a gazelle can eat a lion
 
If nate rocks you and the fight goes to the mat you're likely done no matter who you are.
 
conor's arrogant shit is just and act.

both he and nate are two of the good guys in MMA.
 
Of all the crazy things i've read here since the weekend.

Company man Diaz is probably the craziest.
 
lol @ humble in victory/defeat

he jumps up onto the cages and gets in peoples faces saying he's gonna be multi div goat (thankfully only to get a reality check from diaz) lulz

how people don't remember this is beyond, how stupid are people
 
I learned there are a lot of Conor fanboys pretending to be Conor haters who come on here and praise him for his fight on Saturday.
 
Except he's good on the ground too, so either way, a determined Nate poses a threat to anyone, anywhere the fight goes.
leg kicks. RDA showed us. nate needs to start checking those.
 
I agree about everything apart from Conor showing he could be humble, I briefly thought so too, but then he went full potato again in a jiffy.
 
I learned that Conor needs his ass to get kicked again before we can finally put an end to this delusional bullshit that pollutes the forum
 
Only read the title but i learned not to flinch how to play touchbutt and how a gazelle can eat a lion
Crikey, you're right

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Learned
Not one single Conor fan that threw insults at some of us picking & supporting Nate showed any respect nor manned up after being shown wrong. All those guys ran and just started creeping out again this morning.

I learned Conor himself showed some respect in defeat, he did skew the truth but was respectful.

I learned that many fighers and, of course, all MMA journos are very susceptible to hype.
 
I learned that it was challenging to create a meal theme at my party with a guy from Ireland and another from Stockton.
 
Corporate Nate
 
Conor and Holly fought instead of waiting like most fighters would do and yes, you have to be well rounded in MMA and not just good on one thing and rely on it all the time. Those things are what I agree with you on this weekend.
 
Of all the crazy things i've read here since the weekend.

Company man Diaz is probably the craziest.

Taking a fight with 10 days notice with one of the hottest fighters the UFC currently has is dangerous. Imagine if Nate had lost, there's a real possibility the brass and fans would say he's not championship material. Instead, he takes a shot and hits dead center. Dangerous gamble and he won. He was also at every single media availability, which is I believe a first for him.

lol @ humble in victory/defeat

he jumps up onto the cages and gets in peoples faces saying he's gonna be multi div goat (thankfully only to get a reality check from diaz) lulz

how people don't remember this is beyond, how stupid are people

I'm not a Connor fan, and I didn't forget anything. I was surprised he showed up to the post fight presser instead of playing the petulant spoiled brat card. He could have. I found it refreshing that someone like him came out and said he took a shot and missed. I remember the days of Tito Ortiz making ridiculous excuses like he had a fractured skull after a loss. Connor didn't do that. You have to respect it.

I learned there are a lot of Conor fanboys pretending to be Conor haters who come on here and praise him for his fight on Saturday.

I wasn't a fan or a hater. He was doing what he felt he had to, to sell fights, and it works. I like fights.

I agree about everything apart from Conor showing he could be humble, I briefly thought so too, but then he went full potato again in a jiffy.

Of course he went full retard afterwards. He had a brand to uphold and now repair. I didn't expect the rhetoric to suddenly stop. He admitted that he took a shot and missed. It happens, but the way he acted in the cage and in the post fight presser has to be respected. He showed he's not just a showman. He showed there's a real human side to who he is. I fully expected a circus afterwards and there wasn't any.

Learned
Not one single Conor fan that threw insults at some of us picking & supporting Nate showed any respect nor manned up after being shown wrong. All those guys ran and just started creeping out again this morning.

I learned Conor himself showed some respect in defeat, he did skew the truth but was respectful.

I learned that many fighers and, of course, all MMA journos are very susceptible to hype.

Hype is part of the fight game. Boxing is even worse. You will always see hyper partisan fanbases hype wins and turn into crickets at losses. If you picked Nate, fantastic. Congratulations on his win. If you picked Connor, I'm sorry he lost. We all won though because it was a damn entertaining fight. No one deserves to be shat on however because you pick either fighter. Opinions are like asshole, everyone has one, and becomes one from time to time. It's human nature.
 
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