Social They gave my son an insect to eat in school

[Protagoras]

I don't know the ideological slant of the poster you responded, but years of perusing rightwing forums and blogs has informed me that the rightwing always sees any sort of technological solution or charity that helps the developing world survive as bad because their world-view follows social-darwinism. If something helps 3rd world people survive, the right tends to frown upon it.

It's really a moot point though even if eating insects leads to more available food and consequently more people, because the moral imperative is to help the people alive today, who are starving.

As a matter of philosophical principle I would love to hear an objective explanation for the moral imperative to help people alive today if it makes it worse for everyone alive tomorrow.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

I ate a bunch of grasshoppers when I was in Africa. I paid more for the ones with the legs removed.

 

[Rod1]

Great source. Interesting that you would cite something from a developed westernized country. How about you look at places like Africa which are seeing massive population growth.

You really think adding in a sudden increase in readily available food sources would slow that down?

https://forums.sherdog.com/posts/152474749/

 

[Rod1]

Pakistan and Nigeria are the best examples. They're both developed enough to have some family planning going on.
These countries are also tiny relative to their population. Something the "Africa is so big" crowd do not get is that large parts of it are desert and population growth is concentrated in a few areas that simply cannot sustain it.

Pakistan has a GDP per capita of USD $1500, Nigeria, USD $1900.

As a reference, the poorest Latin American nation Bolivia, has a GDP per capita of USD $3,400 and a fertility rate of 2.88.

Pakistan issue is that its development may be hindered due instability.

 

[Strategery]

I wonder when did my country started the trend of not using toilets! You should wait till they try that in the states!

But seriously back in the late 90s they tried influencing the public on not using the flush function of the toilet and just using a bucket of water to flush it down, which I think does not really make sense because the amount of water that will be used will be the same.

I thought Indonesia was a subset of India and just walked out to the beach and squatted. Don’t touch left hand.

 

[Chappi]

Yea the big bug industry trying to push their product on kids now, they are as bad as big oil and all the others.

 

[jk7707]

Yea the big bug industry trying to push their product on kids now, they are as bad as big oil and all the others.

Their leader is a mutant psychopath. We should have known.

 

[Hurricane Brad]

TS is on to something, I did notice an increase in the promotion of eating bugs a few years back. While I'm normally pretty open to trying new foods, I've little interest in eating bugs unless they're sitting at the bottom of a liquor bottle. By the time I get to them I won't give a single fuck.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

Pakistan has a GDP per capita of USD $1500, Nigeria, USD $1900.

As a reference, the poorest Latin American nation Bolivia, has a GDP per capita of USD $3,400 and a fertility rate of 2.88.

Pakistan issue is that its development may be hindered due instability.

Nigeria has a TFR of 5.53!!!

 

[MicroBrew]

As a matter of philosophical principle I would love to hear an objective explanation for the moral imperative to help people alive today if it makes it worse for everyone alive tomorrow.

If it was your family starving today, you would not be against any moral imperative to help them now.

One can argue that agriculture and mechanized farming has all increased food supply, causing an increase in population consequently resulting in more people starving. Yet I am not seeing anyone advocating for doing away with farming and mechanized farming.

 

[MicroBrew]

Eating a lot of insects would not reduce the breed urge in those who currently really like to breed. I really like kids, but other people like me seem to have issues.

I think the urge is stronger in Africans. They had to breed younger and faster to maintain for a long time. They would have evolved it out of necessity.

Poor people in developing countries tend to have more kids. Also religious people. At one time both India and Bangladesh had high TFR, but in Bangladesh and large parts of India the TFR has crashed to developed world levels, and in some cases even below Western world TFR.

TFR in Sub-Saharan Africa has also been coming down quite noticeably, so there is nothing unique about SSA.
World Bank graph on the decreasing TFR in SSA.
https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SP.DYN.TFRT.IN?locations=ZG

TFR coming down across the board.
https://www.un.org/en/development/d...f/fertility/world-fertility-patterns-2015.pdf

Religion plays a massive role in high TFR. Israel which is a developed country has a very high TFR amongst the Orthodox, higher than some parts in SSA. Pakistan , Afghanistan and the MidEast all have high TFR despite much of the MIdEast being more developed than most areas of SSA.

 

[Damien Karras]

Man, the things people will put themselves through to avoid taxing the rich. These are the same people that just voted in a billionaire and supported a budget-breaking tax plan that destabilized the economy, starved it in the event of a future crash, and transferred hundreds of billions of dollars to the rich on the public's dime.

But the stock market!

 

[forum poster]

This is my first time hearing the "make the children eat bugs" conspiracy theory. What is the end game here? Does it have something to do with making them gay?

You'd be surprised at how sly the cultural marxists are these days. I'm pretty sure eating bugs is a slippery slope to sucking dicks, followed by a transexual revolution by plotting a coup to overthrow the government and installing a worldwide communist utopia.

 

[Ruprecht]

Witchetty grubs and honey ants are OK, but i'm not sure they'd be a particular efficient food source.
Can't say I've seen anything that I'd characterise as "propaganda", but there's certainly been plenty of reports on the efficiency of insects as a food supply. Better than soylent green...
Food supply is a relatively minor factor in population growth though. It's dominated by fertility and mortality rates, and the fall in fertility rates always follows a decrease in child mortality rates.
If you're worried about overpopulation, the solutions are healthcare and (female) education, not more or less food.

 

[Armbars]

Slippery slope imo

Leave the Chinese out of this

 

[Lawless People]

LMAO!

Just a funny question to you do you really think that everything that they teach in School is actually some propaganda?


If so maybe Velenzuela should have started early on their push to eat insects!

EL Mow!

Did he state everything is propaganda?

 

[Amerikuracana]

Witchetty grubs and honey ants are OK, but i'm not sure they'd be a particular efficient food source.
Can't say I've seen anything that I'd characterise as "propaganda", but there's certainly been plenty of reports on the efficiency of insects as a food supply. Better than soylent green...
Food supply is a relatively minor factor in population growth though. It's dominated by fertility and mortality rates, and the fall in fertility rates always follows a decrease in child mortality rates.
If you're worried about overpopulation, the solutions are healthcare and (female) education, not more or less food.

You've been conditioned to accept narrative propaganda from the news, as news. The "news" absolutely guides narrative, and simply advertises. Those "stories" were not that far apart, and there was definitely positive bias. Is is true that eating insects will "save the world?" I'm not sure, but i firmly believe it's likely there could be some positives; but I am sure that particular headline, in conjunction with all the others, is mild narrative propaganda.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Did he state everything is propaganda?

I don't think them giving my son a grasshopper was intentional propaganda.

Could it have originated from somebody who reads the BBC, who takes it as gospel, who read all those articles over the course of a year? Maybe. Maybe even an administrator who sent it down hill after reading all that "news."

We have to understand that these information sources guide society more than they probably should. I don't think my sons teacher was necessarily engaging in nefarious propaganda; unlikely, actually. But the "news" can introduce and encourage narratives, and many people will follow. Funny, it previously was the right that did this following, and now it's more the left. I almost wonder if a group at the very top is experimenting with how much impact they can have sometimes.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Did he state everything is propaganda?

Oh, and you will not see anybody's statements and stances more twisted around than mine around here. It's odd. I hope moving forward, since you noticed it now, you'll notice it then. Thanks for actually paying attention, and I'll do the same for your posts.

 

[Amerikuracana]

I ate a bunch of grasshoppers when I was in Africa. I paid more for the ones with the legs removed.

Ok. How were they?