Social They gave my son an insect to eat in school

[tonni]

This is my first time hearing the "make the children eat bugs" conspiracy theory. What is the end game here? Does it have something to do with making them gay?

Worms are small self sufficient penises basically

 

[Deleted member 457759]

Seems like people have short memories. This stuff was all over a little while back, and for an extended period.

Yes. I wouldn't be bothered by it. If it's done on a large scale they have to be produced locally and regulated though. I can see parasites being an issue with insects. Not sure though.

 

[tonni]

I eat worms

 

[MikeMcMann]

Bugs are food TS just as seafood is food and meat is food. Would you get mad if they had an assortment of foods for them to try? Or is your point 'only the foods I like, should be the ones offered to others'?

 

[MikeMcMann]

TS the reason there is some push towards eating certain bugs is because we are becoming more knowledgeable as a society about nutrition. Bug proteins are healthier than animal proteins. They are also far cheaper to harvest. And despite our bais are less gross.

Of course anything you are normalized to will seem less gross to you than something you are not but imagine you are an alien who comes down to this planet and watches the birth to slaughter of a cow, the hair, the guts, the waste so to that you can eat a hunk of meat carved out of its ass in the form of a roast, and the other option is a grasshopper roasted on a bbq and eaten.

One would appear barbaric and gross and the other not so much.

And I am a meat eater so I am not saying that with bias.

 

[Jar of Flies]

“Eat bugs” propaganda?

I can’t tell if the people going along with it in this thread are in on an (unintentional) joke by the TS or there are actually people this paranoid that think behind every door there is some grand conspiracy.

 

[Amerikuracana]

Wait, so who do you think these people are? Preppers? Primitivists? The answer for both would be the same: that exerting democratic control over the instability of the economy and the unsustainability of consumption/production/pollution could be done through political participation. There's no reason to resign yourself to the fate that the rich are going to do what they did in the 1980s, 2000s, and now again here since 2016 or that the major industrial producers are going to continue pumping poison into the air, depleting resources for profit, and hastening climate change. You can vote against them. Or at the very least discontinue supporting political movements that actively exacerbate them.



That's not what he said. He said it was in preparation for the next crash: i.e. resigning ourselves to the fact that upwardly redistributive boom-and-bust economics and brutal post-crash austerity policy is the only option....despite the fact that we went 45 years without it up until 1980. Personally, I don't have a problem with eco-types pushing to destigmatize alternative protein-rich diets so long as it's not seen as a solution to the problem cited.

You're giving current democrats way to much credit. I'd like to believe Bernie is the real deal, and Warren has some common sense notions for the economy that are slightly old school (good) Democrat, but overall, your party has abandoned the American worker. Trump won via being the only one to directly talk about how bad all the outsourcing was for American workers; that was supposed to be democrats thing. It is really, really important that American companies that sell things to America, make things in America. It's like thee issue.

Step 1 for a healthy economy: At least minimum protections for workers that prevent those with leverage and undo influence from creating a third world work environment, and no real wealth redistribution through WORK. Better than minimum protections work better, as seen by what happened here when unions had some pull, and the middle class was created. Short sighted rich people pretended it was bad for them, but it wasn't.

Step 2: Wealth gets redistributed through jobs and production that benefits everybody.

Step 3: Manufacture and produce enough that you do not spend more than you make as a country. Have a trade surplus.

That is obviously over simplistic. But it's also true. China had so much trade surplus money floating around the last 25 years that their economy grew, as did an upper middle class, while still repressing the hell out of their workers. Now that's not how it generally works, or would work here, but when you're making so much money, there is just going to be some that falls into the hands of people. It doesn't "trickle down," but yeah.

 

[Amerikuracana]

“Eat bugs” propaganda?

I can’t tell if the people going along with it in this thread are in on an (unintentional) joke by the TS or there are actually people this paranoid that think behind every door there is some grand conspiracy.

Dude, shut up. This individual teacher could just have their own beliefs on it. But yes, recently there was a push to normalize eating bugs. I hate it when people trying to sound smart, sound stupid, it's annoying.

 

[Licensed2Shrimp]

Wait, so who do you think these people are? Preppers? Primitivists? The answer for both would be the same: that exerting democratic control over the instability of the economy and the unsustainability of consumption/production/pollution could be done through political participation. There's no reason to resign yourself to the fate that the rich are going to do what they did in the 1980s, 2000s, and now again here since 2016 or that the major industrial producers are going to continue pumping poison into the air, depleting resources for profit, and hastening climate change. You can vote against them. Or at the very least discontinue supporting political movements that actively exacerbate them.

I think the people pushing bug products are "Woke Capital" marketing cricket protein chips to the "guilty of existing" market of urbanite liberal women. The climate change stuff is part of the marketing. You're saving the world from climate change by eating bugs after all!! The U.N. says so!

 

[Jar of Flies]

Dude, shut up. This individual teacher could just have their own beliefs on it. But yes, recently there was a push to normalize eating bugs. I hate it when people trying to sound smart, sound stupid, it's annoying.

Define “push” then because you yourself just stated it was just an individual teacher.

 

[Amerikuracana]

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-scotland-21278661/what-does-a-mealworm-taste-like

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-39039395

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31589764

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zy7s39q

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24912602

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.w...his-health-app-is-betting-yes/?outputType=amp


Please don't be dumb trying to sound smart.

 

[AlexDB9]

 

[Amerikuracana]

^^^^^^
This type of "news" can influence teachers.

Define “push” then because you yourself just stated it was just an individual teacher.

 

[ShinkanPo]

“Eat bugs” propaganda?

I can’t tell if the people going along with it in this thread are in on an (unintentional) joke by the TS or there are actually people this paranoid that think behind every door there is some grand conspiracy.

He is lucky the school only gave his son an insect to eat!

Some schools give herpes!

 

[ShinkanPo]

I'd kill human for a steak if I was starved enough!..

ok that's a lie but i'd be contemplating about it the entire time if I was gnawing on a plate of grasshoppers...

In a situation like the crisis in Venezuela where people are starving because of a brutal dictator preventing people from getting food I can see some people eating the hardcore supporters of the regime if worst comes to worst.

 

[MikeMcMann]

I think the people pushing bug products are "Woke Capital" marketing cricket protein chips to the "guilty of existing" market of urbanite liberal women. The climate change stuff is part of the marketing. You're saving the world from climate change by eating bugs after all!! The U.N. says so!

No. Its as i said above. People are just getting smarter about nutrition and efficiency.

Bugs are healthier than animal proteins, require less resources to farm and can yield way more edible product with the same resources.

In every single way bugs are far better for us and the environment so why not try to push people to get past an emotional and irrational bias against them with education.

Ya i find them gross but that is only because I was raised eating meat. If i was raised eating bugs and you showed me the process to raise and slaughter a cow before hunking out a piece of its ass and saying to me 'eat it', I would be like WTF man, that is the grossest thing i have seen.

But i was raised on meat and not bugs so to meat meat is great and bugs are gross but that is only because of normalization bias not because its true.

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[Jar of Flies]

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-scotland-21278661/what-does-a-mealworm-taste-like

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-39039395

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31589764

http://www.bbc.co.uk/guides/zy7s39q

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-24912602

https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2019/01/09/would-you-toss-roasted-insects-into-your-meal-this-health-app-is-betting-yes/?outputType=amp


Please don't be dumb trying to sound smart.

You started a thread about “eat bugs” propaganda but I sound dumb?

These are just articles about potential benefits of insect diets. You can literally find articles about the benefits of almost anything else.

Go back to complaining about interracial couples on TV. At least then people will know right away to ignore your insecure rantings.

 

[MFIC]

I've seen the "eat bugs" propaganda for a few years now. Was even heavier up until about a year ago; BBC was running stories about how great it is, saw articles on it, so you know it was getting "the push," and it was obvious.

So they gave the kids grasshoppers in school today; 6th grade. I didn't make a deal about it, because my son actually talked about wanting to try it. Well, he did today, and he thought it was terrible.

So anyways the social push for people to start eating insects has reached middle school.

Should I be mad they gave my kid a chile lime grasshopper today? Has everybody noticed this push over the last few years?

Grasshoppers carry a parasite that if consumed, can begin to grow worms in your digestive system. Happens a lot when people eat grasshoppers even when they’re supposedly cooked. What’s worse is treatment for the worms is extremely expensive. Good luck

 

[tonni]

@InternetHero I used to eat ants as a kid. I thought you'd like to know.

 

[Licensed2Shrimp]

No. Its as i said above. People are just getting smarter about nutrition and efficiency.

Lol, more marketing gimmickry.

Insect protein has no reason to exist in the market as long as we have boneless skinless chicken breast and eggs. Which per gram of protein per acre of crop is not going to be beat by insect farming. And in fact the cricket derived foods such as chips and protein bars (with tons of disguised sugar in the ingredients) are more expensive per pound than high quality steak.

If this was about absolute efficiency per yield it would be protein derived from krill or some other planned aquaculture. Fish food flakes pressed into fun dinosaur shapes for the kids with added sugar to ensure it tastes good.

But it's not about that and we both know it.