There should be a list of safe supplements... Well guess what.. there is!

[dim_]

Countless fighters are using the logic, how can we be sure our supplements are safe.. Weve got Malki Kawi harping on that dodgy Chinese ingredients coming over are causing positives.. Fans are screaming saying how common contaminated supplements are, how there should be a safe list of stuff they can take...

Well guess what, there is, and its really not complicated.

Disclaimer: No supplement can ever be 100% guaranteed, nothing in life is 100% guaranteed, but if an athlete was using a product that had been independantly tested, and it proved contaminated, they would almost certainly get off because of having been dilligent in their decisions...

Two programs are run by the LGC Group.

http://informed-sport.com and http://informed-choice.org

Both programs are very similar in how they run, both involve various tests of products and also production facilities, before the "informed" mark is awarded. Informed-Choice is US centric and other parts, informed-sport Europe

Informed-sport are also members of INADO (The institute of National Anti Doping Organisations)

INADO ARE PARTNERS WITH WADA

And other members include multiple national anti doping agencies..



From their website:

The Informed-Choice/Informed-Sport registration process requires both a manufacturing quality system audit and pre-registration product testing. A thorough review of quality assurance systems, raw materials, and supply chain is carried out to ensure there is little risk of contamination in the finished product. This includes, but is not limited to:

1. Product evaluation including formulation, label claims, nutritional labeling, contaminant testing, etc.
2. Raw material evaluation at each production site
3. Review of accreditations held by the manufacturing and packing facility, such as Good Manufacturing Practice (GMP)
4. Quality system and Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) review for raw material storage and handling, review of SOPs for production and packaging, equipment cleaning, staff training, product traceability, etc.
5. Raw material supplier assessment
6. Finished goods storage and distribution evaluation

Pre-registration product testing is also required prior to acceptance onto the Informed-Choice program. This includes testing of 3 or more samples from different production runs to establish a history of testing.

Only after the audit is satisfactory and the product testing has shown no contamination issues can the product be registered into the program and carry the Informed-Choice/Informed-Sport mark.

And then....

Once the product is registered, regular batch testing and/or blind sample testing is carried out to ensure the products in the market are safer for athletes to use. All tested batches of product are listed on this website. They can be found on the Registered Products page or by simply typing in the name of the supplement in the search bar.

So who has products registered with informed sport?

In fact, more than 90 COMPANIES have products registered...

For instance if you go to http://www.informed-sport.com/registered-finished-product-brands

and click on

they have 36 DIFFERENT PRODUCTS THAT HAVE BEEN INDEPENDENTLY TESTED

Someone like MyProtein even have a dedicated "Informed" range of products that have been independantly tested...

Is it really that hard for fighters to make sure that they are taking supplements that are safe to use?

Im in no way associated with LGC Group, informed-sport etc...

 

[conorbless1]

Im in no way associated with LGC Group, informed-sport etc...

lol

 

[Squall Leonhart]

lol

hehehehehhee

 

[dim_]

lol

well its worth putting a disclaimer. was chatting with a coupe of ufc fighters about this and its worth saying "no i dont work for them"

 

[I see stiffness]

"but it's just all so confusing and I can't operate a computer or phone"

 

[AndrewGolota48]

Awesome post, people are so gullible that they believe the anti-supplement crusade the fighters are using to redirect blame. There are shit tons of brands used by millions of people that have never been tainted, yet all the caught fighters conveniently avoid using these options. Not to even mention the third party testing that many now offer.

 

[I see stiffness]

Awesome post, people are so gullible that they believe the anti-supplement crusade the fighters are using to redirect blame. There are shit tons of brands used by millions of people that have never been tainted, yet all the caught fighters conveniently avoid using these options. Not to even mention the third party testing that many now offer.

Exactly. Do people think supplement brands aren't on top of this?

Their industry would crumble if these sort of assurances weren't in place. Those bogeymen down at MusclePharm - never know what you're going to get.

Resources are available - you're an idiot if you aren't on top of it.

 

[RawHawg]

So stupid, no need to make it complicated. One just needs to eat lots of peanuts. Why do you think elephants are so strong? duhh!

 

[fordman7795]

Tl;dr

Stop taking supplements and just eat your fruits and veggies

 

[mjmj]

I think way too many fighters didn't bother familiarizing themselves with the USADA list and just assumed things they had taken in the past were fine. I bet a bunch of them are getting a wake up call right now. If they're smart, they're emptying the whole fucking cabinet full of supplements they have and starting over. I know I would.

 

[Verace]

But then they wouldnt have the excuse in their back pocket!

 

[Rondas Pillow]

Disclaimer: No supplement can ever be 100% guaranteed, nothing in life is 100% guaranteed, but if an athlete was using a product that had been independantly tested, and it proved contaminated, they would almost certainly get off because of having been dilligent in their decisions...

Quit reading after this. USADA doesn't fuck around. No way this would get them off. They would just all say they were taking those brands and self contaminate it.

 

[mjmj]

Quit reading after this. USADA doesn't fuck around. No way this would get them off. They would just all say they were taking those brands and self contaminate it.

No. It doesn't work that way.

 

[MusclesMarinara]

What kind of PCT do I need to run after Whey?

 

[Metheus]

Quit reading after this. USADA doesn't fuck around. No way this would get them off. They would just all say they were taking those brands and self contaminate it.

They cant self contaminate the tested supplement since the USADA requires unopened bottles from the same batch/shipment to test for this excuse.

 

[chunglii]

No thanks I'd rather be a victim of my own ignorance

 

[dim_]

Quit reading after this. USADA doesn't fuck around. No way this would get them off. They would just all say they were taking those brands and self contaminate it.

if youd carry on reading then you would see that they are partners with various national anti doping agencies

and yes, due dilligence would go a long way

 

[Rondas Pillow]

No. It doesn't work that way.

They cant self contaminate the tested supplement since the USADA requires unopened bottles from the same batch/shipment to test for this excuse.

if youd carry on reading then you would see that they are partners with various national anti doping agencies

and yes, due dilligence would go a long way

My point is that someone using PEDs will just contaminate their bottle and an extra bottle and re-seal it. Then they will blame it. That's just how reality works.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

Countless fighters are using the logic, how can we be sure our supplements are safe.. Weve got Malki Kawi harping on that dodgy Chinese ingredients coming over are causing positives.. Fans are screaming saying how common contaminated supplements are, how there should be a safe list of stuff they can take...

Well guess what, there is, and its really not complicated.

Disclaimer: No supplement can ever be 100% guaranteed, nothing in life is 100% guaranteed, but if an athlete was using a product that had been independantly tested, and it proved contaminated, they would almost certainly get off because of having been dilligent in their decisions...

Two programs are run by the LGC Group.

http://informed-sport.com and http://informed-choice.org

Both programs are very similar in how they run, both involve various tests of products and also production facilities, before the "informed" mark is awarded.

Informed-sport are also members of INADO (The institute of National Anti Doping Organisations)

INADO ARE PARTNERS WITH WADA

And other members include multiple national anti doping agencies..



From their website:

The Informed-Choice/Informed-Sport registration process requires both a manufacturing quality system audit and pre-registration product testing. A thorough review of quality assurance systems, raw materials, and supply chain is carried out to ensure there is little risk of contamination in the finished product. This includes, but is not limited to:

1. Product evaluation including formulation, label claims, nutritional labeling, contaminant testing, etc.
2. Raw material evaluation at each production site
3. Review of accreditations held by the manufacturing and packing facility, such as Good Manufacturing Practice (GMP)
4. Quality system and Standard Operating Procedure (SOP) review for raw material storage and handling, review of SOPs for production and packaging, equipment cleaning, staff training, product traceability, etc.
5. Raw material supplier assessment
6. Finished goods storage and distribution evaluation

Pre-registration product testing is also required prior to acceptance onto the Informed-Choice program. This includes testing of 3 or more samples from different production runs to establish a history of testing.

Only after the audit is satisfactory and the product testing has shown no contamination issues can the product be registered into the program and carry the Informed-Choice/Informed-Sport mark.

And then....

Once the product is registered, regular batch testing and/or blind sample testing is carried out to ensure the products in the market are safer for athletes to use. All tested batches of product are listed on this website. They can be found on the Registered Products page or by simply typing in the name of the supplement in the search bar.

So who has products registered with informed sport?

In fact, more than 90 COMPANIES have products registered...

For instance if you go to http://www.informed-sport.com/registered-finished-product-brands

and click on

they have 36 DIFFERENT PRODUCTS THAT HAVE BEEN INDEPENDENTLY TESTED

Someone like MyProtein even have a dedicated "Informed" range of products that have been independantly tested...

Is it really that hard for fighters to make sure that they are taking supplements that are safe to use?

Im in no way associated with LGC Group, informed-sport etc...

you should really add this gif to the top of the OP lol

 

[dim_]

My point is that someone using PEDs will just contaminate their bottle and an extra bottle and re-seal it. Then they will blame it. That's just how reality works.

And then put it on the shop shelf,, and just happen to get the same shop that USADA are independently purchasing batches of the supplement in question from?

You do realise USADA wont test the supplements the athlete gives them, they source their own supplies