Media The Weasle details why he believes Dustin Poirier is getting KO'ed by Conor

dipstickjimmy said:
If as was mentioned ahead that Dustin expects them both to get bloodied and he fights Rock em Sock em style that does not bode well for his chances.

If he is able to impose a smart strategy to expose Conor's weaknesses he can make it interesting. I am thinking of GSP 1st round vs BJ Penn in their second fight. Georges clinched and made BJ tire out his arms to slow down his punches moving forward.

This would also help keep Dustin out of Conor's danger zones. He needs to be on the outside kicking Conor's legs or all the way in clinching to wear him out. Throwing pity pat shots so as not to get countered and using TD attempts to just get a hold of him to force clinches.

Hoping for Dustin to perform and get the title or title shot. Simply not interested in seeing McGregor hold a belt that he will never defend.
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Clinching up with Conor would end in a shoulder strike KO
 
Moro said:
99.9% of Sherdog believe Conor has this in the bag so Conor winning wouldn’t be some GOAT level shit, it’s expected.

I’m one of the minority rooting for an improved Dustin to get the job done this time around.
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Conor's last good win was 4 years ago, He may not be his sharpest. But still, I think he takes this, it is a good matchup for him. I would not be that surprised if he got caught with something , but his chin is solid.
 
Path to victory: Teep kick whit hands up and theOblique kick....it will take alot out of connor....
 
GOATtalks said:
Clinching up with Conor would end in a shoulder strike KO
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I am pretty sure Cowboy was getting KO'd one way or another. Perfect timing on a fight with a perfect opponent for McGregor's style. Donald was mentally beaten before that fight ever happened.
 
Doughie99 said:
Dustin can sub Conor, he can get a TKO and he can definitely win on points.

As long as Dustin can avoid Conor's left hand shots in the first 2 rounds, he should comfortably win this fight. He's simply a better fighter than Conor. BUT....anyone can get clipped so Poirier needs to avoid getting clipped.

Also.....I HOPE Herb Dean is NOT the referee, but it will be no surprise whatsoever if Herb Dean IS the referee for this fight.
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How does he get the fight there though? You think his grappling really holds up? His wrestling in particular? I think Denis siver, brimmage are better mma wrestlers and conor had no problem fending those guys off. Dustin is a better overall grappling, especially on the ground but I think conors bjj is underrated. As the video said, he swept Nate diaz. He kinda knows what he's doing that there.



Do you think is is going to be as sloppy here?
 
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Peli said:
How does he get the fight there though? You think his grappling really holds up? His wrestling in particular? I think Denis siver, brimmage are better mma wrestlers and conor had no problem fending those guys off. Dustin is a better overall grappling, especially on the ground but I think conors bjj is underrated. As the video said, he swept Nate diaz. He kinda knows what he's doing that there.



Do you think is is going to be as sloppy here?
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Brimmage fight was April 2013 (almost 8 years ago) and the Dennis Siver fight was Jan 2015 (6 years ago) -- I just think both are too long ago to put much validity into them simply as that was a very long time ago.

I think Poirier's wrestling and ground game are much better than most people think and his BJJ is much more developed than McG.
But Poirier likes to stand and trade and that COULD be his downfall. Yes, he almost went out by getting trapped against the fence fighting Hooker, that was a really close fight. On Hooker -- I think he is FAR better than most people think. Super-hard fight for anyone at 155lbs.

Poirier needs to be smart about this and not just stand there and trade as that IS dangerous to do, no doubt about it. Both Poirier and McG hit hard. Khabib's standard tactic as we all know is to get the fight to the ground fast, and keep it there, and tire out your opponent.
Whether Poirier will do that against McGregor -- probably he won't and that might be a big mistake.

I can see McG getting a KO if it's early and Poirier believes in his own chin too much --- but as long as Poirier isn't foolhardy and doesn't just stand there and ALLOW himself to get hit in Rds 1 and 2 in particular, he should be ok.
 
dipstickjimmy said:
I am pretty sure Cowboy was getting KO'd one way or another. Perfect timing on a fight with a perfect opponent for McGregor's style. Donald was mentally beaten before that fight ever happened.
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Just shows how good Conor is. He’s larger than life persona and most fighters crumble when they step into their octagon with him. He did to Poirier, Aldo, Alvarez and Cowboy.

Also his clinch game is very good. He dominated Cowboy and did very well against Nate, turning the position even when he was tired already.
 
Doughie99 said:
Brimmage fight was April 2013 (almost 8 years ago) and the Dennis Siver fight was Jan 2015 (6 years ago) -- I just think both are too long ago to put much validity into them simply as that was a very long time ago.

I think Poirier's wrestling and ground game are much better than most people think and his BJJ is much more developed than McG.
But Poirier likes to stand and trade and that COULD be his downfall. Yes, he almost went out by getting trapped against the fence fighting Hooker, that was a really close fight. On Hooker -- I think he is FAR better than most people think. Super-hard fight for anyone at 155lbs.

Poirier needs to be smart about this and not just stand there and trade as that IS dangerous to do, no doubt about it. Both Poirier and McG hit hard. Khabib's standard tactic as we all know is to get the fight to the ground fast, and keep it there, and tire out your opponent.
Whether Poirier will do that against McGregor -- probably he won't and that might be a big mistake.

I can see McG getting a KO if it's early and Poirier believes in his own chin too much --- but as long as Poirier isn't foolhardy and doesn't just stand there and ALLOW himself to get hit in Rds 1 and 2 in particular, he should be ok.
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You make it seem like Dustin has the same tools as Khabib and he just doesn’t use them. Well that couldn’t be further from the truth.

Conor rarely uses offensive wrestling and BJJ, but his defence is one of the best in the division. Dustin might have better offensive grappling than Conor, but it’s not good enough to cause real problems for Conor’s defence.
 
dipstickjimmy said:
I am pretty sure Cowboy was getting KO'd one way or another. Perfect timing on a fight with a perfect opponent for McGregor's style. Donald was mentally beaten before that fight ever happened.
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Exactly. Anything that happened in this fight shouldn’t have surprised anyone (well, I don’t think anyone expected shoulder strike to hurt Cowboy...).

Cowboy fights his best fights when he really gets going, when it becomes a fight so to speak. He seems to need a moment to get in to the rhythm and that’s exactly what didn’t happen in their bout. It was full speed ahead from the opening bell.

Conor is a fast starter, extremely lethal early and full of fast twitch muscle that makes him pretty much built for the first round finishes. He is so damn sharp early. Conor also started super aggressive, trying to take Cowboys head off with the first strike right away.

Like many have said, the longer the fight goes the better it should be for Poirier. What I don’t necessarily agree with is that Poirier needs just to survive early (seems to be a public opinion?). I think he needs to fight and get some offense going early, too. He shouldn’t - and can’t - just wait and see what Conor has to offer. Maybe focus on leg and body kicks. Definitely shouldn’t lunge at Conor’s head with punches early :eek:
 
Spath said:
Exactly. Anything that happened in this fight shouldn’t have surprised anyone (well, I don’t think anyone expected shoulder strike to hurt Cowboy...).

Cowboy fights his best fights when he really gets going, when it becomes a fight so to speak. He seems to need a moment to get in to the rhythm and that’s exactly what didn’t happen in their bout. It was full speed ahead from the opening bell.

Conor is a fast starter, extremely lethal early and full of fast twitch muscle that makes him pretty much built for the first round finishes. He is so damn sharp early. Conor also started super aggressive, trying to take Cowboys head off with the first strike right away.

Like many have said, the longer the fight goes the better it should be for Poirier. What I don’t necessarily agree with is that Poirier needs just to survive early (seems to be a public opinion?). I think he needs to fight and get some offense going early, too. He shouldn’t - and can’t - just wait and see what Conor has to offer. Maybe focus on leg and body kicks. Definitely shouldn’t lunge at Conor’s head with punches early :eek:
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asking poirier to be a composed discipline fighter for me is a tough ask. He's a bloodlust fighter. When he sees someone's hurt, he wants to go for the kill and sometimes that can cause him to get clipped or lose the fight.

What I saw from hooker fight disappointed me. Here's a guy who lost to khabib in the way he lost because he pulled a guillotine and gassed his arms out. What does he do in his very next fight? Does the guillotine more times in the hooker fight than he did in the khabib fight. That doesn't show me he's completely learned his lesson.

I see wher he's coming from though which is why I'm critical. when I use to play sports, I was the same way. I think okay, I can keep up the pressure or get away with this at that time and I couldn't. Even though I know I shouldn't be doing it, but the gamble is worth the pay off in my mind. In all likelihood, its a low percentage payoff and it rarely works how I envisioned it to work.<Lmaoo>
 
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