The Weapons That Special Forces Really Use

[Long Dark Blues]

Let say you have to enter into a room or hallway. I would think the shield would afford you some protection.

If someone is at the end of a hallway with an AK ready to let it spray, a riot shield will do nothing.

I think even ballistic shields are only designed to stop handgun and shotgun rounds.

 

[krait]

Let say you have to enter into a room or hallway. I would think the shield would afford you some protection.

Once again. I am not military only going off helping cops friends do their swat training as an adversary and fill person on a few mock entries. Just a humble civies observations helping out some cop friends do their training. So if a real operator disagrees I would go with their comments.

But those shields really got in the way when moving around inside a structure. Couldn't fit through a hallway or especially a doorway very well. Saw one guy try to get through a door and shield hit the door frame and the whole entry team got stuck right there in the doorway cause the lead guy bounced back off the door frame back into the hallway. The training I was involved with really focused on getting the entire team into a room as fast as possible to overwhelm opponent. If there was a risk of someone waiting , they used a flash bang and would hit the door and peel off as fast as possible to cover their assigned portion of room. With a shield all speed goes out the window. Not to mention the person holding the shield is pretty much useless as they can't operate a weapon very well. And once in the room only one person had a shield and unless everyone tried to stand behind them they had no protection and the advantage of speed and surprise were gone cause they had to let the slowest person in the stack lead the way.

 

[Tama]

If someone is at the end of a hallway with an AK ready to let it spray, a riot shield will do nothing.

I think even ballistic shields are only designed to stop handgun and shotgun rounds.

Found a video on testing the Venture ballistic shield. It seems to have stopped all handgun, shotgun and intermediate rifle rounds.

 

[Protectandserve]

A shield requires a lot of training and knowledge to use effectively. Its good for when you need to approach down a hallway or move from cover to cover.

The big downside is you are nearly a completely defensive member of the stack. Its damn near impossible to use a semi auto handgun effectively with a shield. One of the few times a laser is a good option.

You also need to understand how to use your shield to.smash someone into a wall if needed. And how to wrestle for control of it if you come around the corner and get into a fight.

 

[Cubo de Sangre]

I didn't feel like starting a new thread for this. I just hadn't thought of it this way before and did feel like sharing the video. Does this make total sense to anyone else?

 

[Fire of Youth]

If we're still talking about suppressors for the military, it adds up pretty quick when you talk about multiple weapons for that many people. Plus I doubt there are suppressors for the crew served and automatic weapons, so there will still be unsuppressed weapons on the battlefield. Maybe this will change in the future when they phase out the M-16/M-4 and the other weapons.

From what I have read; everything else being equal, the side with the louder guns win. Supposedly this is because of the psychological impact of using loud weaponry on your enemys. It saps their will to fight when they can hear the damage being wrought by your weapons.