The UFC needs some long standing champs in order to continue being successful

[Krazy NightTrain]

And not in the DJ weight class. They need somebody(s) that can reign down on a division for an extended period of time, to build a champion that they can actually market and sell to people on PPV's. Silva managed to stick around for quite a while during his run. There's too much change for a kasual fan to not get intimidated by, in my opinion. I mean in boxing you get these guys who stay at the top of their game for years. In MMA it seems like the belt changes left and right, making it hard for kasuals to know who to root for.

I don't see how the UFC grows as it is now. Fighters put these runs on, that maybe last a couple of years, then once they get the belt, they either lose it, or take a year to fight again. Whenever you make your opinion on a matter known on the internet, there will inevitably be those who disagree. But, if you disagree bring a good argument on how the UFC can continue to grow as its being ran currently. Fighters missing weight. Fighters tripping over a cord, a week out from a big PPV and injuring themselves.

I'd love to see in the future, belts being unified... but it being in this manner. The welterweight champ from the UFC, goes and gets the belt from the champ in Bellator. There can't be 2 "and the welterweight champion of the WORLD is"... Unify the belt, Woodly goes and fights Rory. As it is now, the UFC gonna die out. Especially screwing your fighters by making them wear these stupid Reebok uniforms.

"Anyone... Anyone.... Anyone...??"

 

[ortizgnp]

Good luck building a champion properly in a sport where the fans bitch about everything.

 

[puppybird]

They need to make changes to the company at the board level starting with Dana White

 

[Headkicktoleg]

UFC is taking it in the complete opposite direction with all these interim belts. They are trying to make every fight matter, but if they all matter then none really matter.

 

[cade187]

It definitely felt special tuning in to see dominant champs fight in their prime. Conor is the closest to replicating that feeling in current MMA. There’s not a lot of fighters I get excited to watch at the moment.

 

[AimedWithV]

And not in the DJ weight class. They need somebody(s) that can reign down on a division for an extended period of time, to build a champion that they can actually market and sell to people on PPV's. Silva managed to stick around for quite a while during his run. There's too much change for a kasual fan to not get intimidated by, in my opinion. I mean in boxing you get these guys who stay at the top of their game for years. In MMA it seems like the belt changes left and right, making it hard for kasuals to know who to root for.

I don't see how the UFC grows as it is now. Fighters put these runs on, that maybe last a couple of years, then once they get the belt, they either lose it, or take a year to fight again. Whenever you make your opinion on a matter known on the internet, there will inevitably be those who disagree. But, if you disagree bring a good argument on how the UFC can continue to grow as its being ran currently. Fighters missing weight. Fighters tripping over a cord, a week out from a big PPV and injuring themselves.

I'd love to see in the future, belts being unified... but it being in this manner. The welterweight champ from the UFC, goes and gets the belt from the champ in Bellator. There can't be 2 "and the welterweight champion of the WORLD is"... Unify the belt, Woodly goes and fights Rory. As it is now, the UFC gonna die out. Especially screwing your fighters by making them wear these stupid Reebok uniforms.

"Anyone... Anyone.... Anyone...??"

Do you feel special every time you write "casuals" with k?

 

[YOLOGOGOPLATA]

Good luck building a champion properly in a sport where the fans bitch about everything.

If fans didn’t bitch then sherdog sure would be boring. Ghost town status. IMO you have the right idea. Debate and arguments are great for sports.

And to TS: it doesn’t seem like they need a certain level of champion in order for the company to be successful. I mean Dana White, WME, and even @FrankieNYC will all tell you last year was the most profitable in company history. It’s only sherdoggers who think UFC is dying.

Man it’s weird that of the 3 people (entities?) i mentioned I trust Frankie the most haha

 

[Reach4theSky]

Champions actually defending their belts would help too..

 

[Naught2Sixty]

the DJ weight class.

There's a lot of thoughts there from the dude that doesn't know the word "Flyweight".

 

[Son of Werdum]

UFC is taking it in the complete opposite direction with all these interim belts. They are trying to make every fight matter, but if they all matter then none really matter.

Well said. I feel this really started when they had to inject fake "bad blood" into every fight.

It cheapens real, legit beef like Jones/Cormier or Wand/Rampage.

No one needed to see GSP awkwardly try to insult Hughes post fight to be excited about that rematch. GSP admitted long before that moment that Hughes was his hero and he looked up to him as a champion. And even so he beat his brains in to a stoppage and arm barred him in a historic trilogy. Much better than most "bad blood" fights like Rampage/Rashad or Jones/Rashad.

 

[Dogo1]

Boxing had long standing champs.

 

[Krazy NightTrain]

Do you feel special every time you write "casuals" with k?

Do you feel special adding absolutely nothing to the konversation?

 

[cevo]

Well said. I feel this really started when they had to inject fake "bad blood" into every fight.

It cheapens real, legit beef like Jones/Cormier or Wand/Rampage.

No one needed to see GSP awkwardly try to insult Hughes post fight to be excited about that rematch. GSP admitted long before that moment that Hughes was his hero and he looked up to him as a champion. And even so he beat his brains in to a stoppage and arm barred him in a historic trilogy. Much better than most "bad blood" fights like Rampage/Rashad or Jones/Rashad.

Casuals can't really tell the difference though, they will tune in if there's drama and potential for a great fight.

MMA definitely needs dominant champions. But the level of skill and talent is getting higher every year, so it's going to get harder do dominate. In the future I don't think anyone will be able to defend 9+ times in a row considering almost all top fighters fight for the same organization. In boxing you have all these undefeated "world champions", but they're all avoiding eachother.

 

[Sam's UFC title reign]

I agree. Only problem is the UFC is being selective when making matchups to get hype trains up the rankings as quickly as possible. we often get champions unable to deal with all aspects of the fight game. A great example is Conor who only fought strikers on the way up (and a wrestler on 2 weeks notice and almost lost). The good champions we have now (Robert Whittaker, Max Holloway) beat murder'e row's to get to there. The UFC is stopping people from doing that

 

[Krazy NightTrain]

Mocking your stupidity is not nothing.

You sure do aim a lot of anger towards somebody on the internet you've never even had a conversation with. To call somebody stupid for using a K to spell something instead of a C.... Especially with that person having a picture of a certain fighter, who spells their nick name with a k instead of a C.... Is just mind numbingly pointless.

I hate running in to people such as yourself in internet forums. Because you're angry at nothing, and hoping to turn this thread I made in to some sparing jab fest. Hey man, you win, you're the smartest person to ever live and post on sherdog. Move on and leave me alone. I want nothing to do with your negativeness.

 

[POWER2]

And not in the DJ weight class. They need somebody(s) that can reign down on a division for an extended period of time, to build a champion that they can actually market and sell to people on PPV's. Silva managed to stick around for quite a while during his run. There's too much change for a kasual fan to not get intimidated by, in my opinion. I mean in boxing you get these guys who stay at the top of their game for years. In MMA it seems like the belt changes left and right, making it hard for kasuals to know who to root for.

I don't see how the UFC grows as it is now. Fighters put these runs on, that maybe last a couple of years, then once they get the belt, they either lose it, or take a year to fight again. Whenever you make your opinion on a matter known on the internet, there will inevitably be those who disagree. But, if you disagree bring a good argument on how the UFC can continue to grow as its being ran currently. Fighters missing weight. Fighters tripping over a cord, a week out from a big PPV and injuring themselves.

I'd love to see in the future, belts being unified... but it being in this manner. The welterweight champ from the UFC, goes and gets the belt from the champ in Bellator. There can't be 2 "and the welterweight champion of the WORLD is"... Unify the belt, Woodly goes and fights Rory. As it is now, the UFC gonna die out. Especially screwing your fighters by making them wear these stupid Reebok uniforms.

"Anyone... Anyone.... Anyone...??"

Too long, didnt read all. But agree with what I read.

 

[Krazy NightTrain]

I agree. Only problem is the UFC is being selective when making matchups to get hype trains up the rankings as quickly as possible. we often get champions unable to deal with all aspects of the fight game. A great example is Conor who only fought strikers on the way up (and a wrestler on 2 weeks notice and almost lost). The good champions we have now (Robert Whittaker, Max Holloway) beat murder'e row's to get to there. The UFC is stopping people from doing that

I totally agree. Throwing Francis to Stipe was weird. It was the UFC just being like "hey uh, we want Francis to be champ now, not you Stipe". And the UFC shouldn't care about making a champ, they should care about making sure the 2 best people are fighting for that belt. Instead it's people like RDA getting a chance right off the bat, or Colby fighting for boo boo belt because he twitters a lot.

 

[Krazy NightTrain]

Well said. I feel this really started when they had to inject fake "bad blood" into every fight.

It cheapens real, legit beef like Jones/Cormier or Wand/Rampage.

No one needed to see GSP awkwardly try to insult Hughes post fight to be excited about that rematch. GSP admitted long before that moment that Hughes was his hero and he looked up to him as a champion. And even so he beat his brains in to a stoppage and arm barred him in a historic trilogy. Much better than most "bad blood" fights like Rampage/Rashad or Jones/Rashad.

Ever since Conor became a thing, it seems like this is what's gonna determine fights. Twitter wars matter more than standings nowadays.

 

[Mondo Freaks]

I agree. It is tough to go on runs these days though.

 

[Sam's UFC title reign]

Okay lets analyze this statement for every weight class
Flyweight- DJ has had a long reign but no legitimate challenges
Bantamweight- Dominick lost to Cody lost to TJ. no long term reign for a while now
Featherweight- Hopefully Max Holloway reigns a long time. he probably will too because he has fought real guys and won. Grapplers wrestlers etc
Lightweight- Khabib will fight once a year and will lose to anyone with great takedown defense and good striking.
Welterweight- Tyron is champ and could reign a long time looking at the current top 10. He is the only really well rounded guy at welterweight now.
Middleweight- Robert can reign a long time. Right now he and Yoel are miles ahead of the division
Light Heavyweight- DC will retire soon. Pray AJ comes back and becomes champ
Heavyweight- Stipe could lose to DC. if he beats DC he will reign for a long time.

So only 2 weight classes are safe