Law The Search For The 113th Supreme Court Justice, v2: President Trump Nominates Judge Neil Gorsuch

Let's see how many Democrats in the Senate will follow Merkley's call to filibuster anyone that Trump nominates.

Up til now, Trump has proven that he isn't actually on any political party's side, and being some one who isn't a Senator with political baggage, it looks like he want to separate his duties from the perpetual partisan bickering in Congress. If the Democrats intentionally pushes him over to the GOP, they might live to regret that decision for the next 4 years.
That's an interesting take on Trump. I disagree. He plays the independent, but his actual actions have been straight from the GOP playbook, except with a bit more authoritarian nationalism thrown in.

And as far as political consequences go, Merkely could shoot a dog, and as long as it was Trump's dog, it would only help his reelection chances here in Oregon.
 
Democrats consider backing off big battle over Trump's Supreme Court pick
By Manu Raju and Ted Barrett, CNN
January 30, 2017​

Senate Democrats are weighing whether to avoid an all-out war to block President Donald Trump's upcoming Supreme Court pick, instead considering delaying that battle for a future nomination that could shift the ideological balance of the court, sources say.

Democrats privately discussed their tactics during a closed-door retreat in West Virginia last week. And a number of Democrats are trying to persuade liberal firebrands to essentially let Republicans confirm Trump's pick after a vigorous confirmation process -- since Trump is likely to name a conservative to replace the late conservative Justice Antonin Scalia.

The reason for the tactic: Republicans are considering gutting the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees if Democrats stay largely united and block Trump's first pick. By employing the so-called "nuclear option," Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell could move to reduce the threshold for clearing a filibuster from 60 votes to 51 votes.

That would mean Democrats could lose leverage in the next Supreme Court fight if Trump were to replace a more liberal justice, since the GOP now has 52 seats in the Senate.

Preserving the filibuster now could give Democrats more leverage in the future, proponents of this strategy say. But it would enrage the Democratic base that wants a furious Democratic response to Trump's court pick.

Sen. Chris Coons, D-Delaware, a member of the Judiciary Committee told CNN he is still seething over the Republicans' decision to block Judge Merrick Garland from filling the seat when they refused to hold hearings and votes on his nomination last year.

"But I'm not going to do to President Trump's nominee what the Republicans in the Senate did to President Obama's," Coons said. "I will push for a hearing and I will push for a vote."

Other Democrats privately agreed with that sentiment.

Senate Minority Whip Dick Durbin, No. 2 in leadership, called the discussion "speculative."

Democrats are divided sharply on the question, which was a heavy focus of their legislative retreat in West Virginia last week and will be a top topic at their weekly policy lunch in the Capitol Tuesday.

Some liberals argue they should battle anyone who is nominated in retribution for the Republicans' handling of Garland, President Barack Obama's pick for the seat left vacant after the death of Justice Antonin Scalia almost a year ago.
Some of those Democrats believe they could block a nominee for up to a year, keeping the court divided 4-4 along ideological lines in the meantime. Vocal pressure from liberal voters could complicate any move to delay a Supreme Court fight.

"I support 60 votes," said Judiciary Committee member Sen. Amy Klobuchar, D-Minnesota, while acknowledging she doesn't know who will get tapped for the post. "Sixty votes is in the Senate rules and that is how we've done it and that's how we should do it."

But such a move is highly risky and could trigger a harsh response from the GOP.

Republicans could retaliate by using the so-called "nuclear option" to lower the threshold to break a filibuster of a Supreme Court pick from 60 to 51 and easily fill this vacancy and others to come. In 2013, Democrats used the nuclear option over the objection of Republicans when they lowered the threshold to break filibusters for executive branch appointments and all other judicial nominations except the Supreme Court.

Yet some Democrats who oppose putting off a fight on Trump's first Supreme Court nominee argue Republicans might not have the 51 votes they would need to approve the rules change, as some senior GOP senators may be reluctant to erode the effectiveness of the 60 vote filibuster, which famously preserves the power of the Senate minority.

Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, who opposed the Democrats' nuclear option, nevertheless has kept the option open for the Supreme Court. If Democrats were to successfully filibuster a Trump justice, the pressure from the right on McConnell could grow immensely.

"President Trump has a list of about 20 Americans who he is considering nominating to the Supreme Court. These men and women have different professional backgrounds, different life experiences," McConnell said on the floor, pleading with Democrats to confirm Trump's choice. "The Senate should respect the result of the election and treat this newly-elected President's nominee in the same way the nominees of other newly-elected Presidents have been treated -- and that is with careful consideration followed by an up-or-down vote."

In an early salvo on the issue, Democrat Sen. Jeff Merkley of Oregon, told Politico Monday he would filibuster virtually anyone Trump's selects for the court.

"This is a stolen seat. This is the first time a Senate majority has stolen a seat," Merkley said. "We will use every lever in our power to stop this."

One senior Democratic aide said Merkley' s announcement was expected and that just because he launches a filibuster, it doesn't mean he would have enough Democratic votes to support it especially if Democratic leaders decide it's smarter to save the fight for a future vacancy. Moreover, some moderate Democrats up for reelection in 2018 in states Trump won overwhelmingly could presumably break ranks and help the president get his pick confirmed.

Liberal firebrand Sen. Sherrod Brown, D-Ohio, said he wants to wait and see who the nominee is before deciding on a filibuster. Asked about Merkley's support for a filibuster, Brown replied, "that's his decision."

The decision for Democrats depends partly on who Trump names. If he picks a conservative that Democrats consider "mainstream" -- such as Appeals Court Judge Neil Gorsuch -- Democrats could hold off on a fight, according to the aides. But if he picks someone they consider outside the mainstream -- such as Appeals Court Judge William Pryor -- a major battle could ensue.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/30/politics/democrats-supreme-court-battle/
 
President Trump brings his finalists for Supreme Court nomination to Washington
By Robert Barnes
January 31, 2017
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President Donald J. Trump at the White House on Tuesday.​


WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump has narrowed his potential Supreme Court nominees to two, and both were reportedly called to Washington before he announces his choice Wednesday night in a televised prime-time event at the White House.

CNN reported that Judge Neil Gorsuch of Colorado was already in Washington and that Judge Thomas Hardiman was on his way from Pittsburgh. There was no comment from the White House about why both men were needed in the capital, but social media exploded with satirical comparisons to Trump’s television show ‘‘The Apprentice,’’ as well as ‘‘The Bachelor.’’

Gorsuch, 49, and Hardiman, 51, have emerged as Trump’s most likely choices. A third person on the shortlist - Judge William Pryor of Alabama - has seen his chances diminish as some Republican Senate leaders have said his confirmation would be a difficult.

Pryor’s outspokenness about overturning Roe v. Wade and other controversial remarks when he was Alabama’s attorney general made even his confirmation to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit a years-long ordeal.

By comparison, Gorsuch was confirmed a decade ago to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit in Denver on a voice vote, and Hardiman was approved unanimously by the Senate for a spot of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 3rd Circuit in Philadelphia.

Neither would have such a comfortable ride to the Supreme Court. Democrats are furious that the Republican-led Senate refused to hold even a hearing on the man former president Barack Obama nominated to fill the seat vacated by Justice Antonin Scalia, who died almost a year ago. Judge Merrick Garland’s nomination elapsed with the new Congress.

Democrats feel the seat was ‘‘stolen,’’ and some have pledged to try to block a vote on Trump’s nominee, no matter who it is. ‘‘I won’t be complicit in this theft,’’ Sen. Jeff Markley, D-Ore., wrote in an email to supporters. ‘‘There is only one person in America who is a legitimate selection: Judge Merrick Garland.’’

Other Democrats aren’t likely to take such a bold move. But there were already signs that things won’t be particularly cozy: Trump invited senior Democratic senators to the White House for a reception to meet his Supreme Court pick, but they declined the invite, according to senior aides.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/na...-washington/JvcSw37RHFwPv5QyBGrpXM/story.html
 
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Please let it be Hardiman. I think he could get through confirmation with ease, and is much more middle of the road than Gorsuch or Pryor.

Gorsuch and Pryor would be much tougher, and might require a nuclear option to get through confirmation.
Agreed, but it really feels like it's gonna be Pryor.


edit. Whoa. I just got nope'd hard. Okay.

Also, is he setting this up like an Apprentice finale?

double edit. It seems pretty wrong for dem senators to turn down the invite.
 
Agreed, but it really feels like it's gonna be Pryor.


edit. Whoa. I just got nope'd hard. Okay.

Also, is he setting this up like an Apprentice finale?

double edit. It seems pretty wrong for dem senators to turn down the invite.
It's a god damn embarrassment to the judiciary, our nation, and the rule of law making a Bachelor finale out of it. I can't believe either one of them agreed to such a demeaning spectacle. It's a Supreme Court Justice, not some random skank looking to be famous.

And I am not surprised that the dems chose not to attend. They shouldn't be complicit in the debacle.
 
CNN reported that Judge Neil Gorsuch of Colorado was already in Washington and that Judge Thomas Hardiman was on his way from Pittsburgh. There was no comment from the White House about why both men were needed in the capital, but social media exploded with satirical comparisons to Trump’s television show ‘‘The Apprentice,’’ as well as ‘‘The Bachelor.’’

It's a god damn embarrassment to the judiciary, our nation, and the rule of law making a Bachelor finale out of it. I can't believe either one of them agreed to such a demeaning spectacle. It's a Supreme Court Justice, not some random skank looking to be famous.

And I am not surprised that the dems chose not to attend. They shouldn't be complicit in the debacle.

I'm not jumping on the pundits' "Bachelor" wagon until showtime.

If one of them was simply invited to witness the ceremony as a special guest alongside Congressional leaders, will the social media analysts eat their roses?
 
It's a god damn embarrassment to the judiciary, our nation, and the rule of law making a Bachelor finale out of it. I can't believe either one of them agreed to such a demeaning spectacle. It's a Supreme Court Justice, not some random skank looking to be famous.

And I am not surprised that the dems chose not to attend. They shouldn't be complicit in the debacle.
Fair enough, if they're not attending for that reason. If he's actually going full reality show with this, it might be one of the most embarrassing moments in American history. Want/don't want, morbidly curious.
 
It's a god damn embarrassment to the judiciary, our nation, and the rule of law making a Bachelor finale out of it. I can't believe either one of them agreed to such a demeaning spectacle. It's a Supreme Court Justice, not some random skank looking to be famous.

And I am not surprised that the dems chose not to attend. They shouldn't be complicit in the debacle.

I can't blame anyone for playing along. You got the most respected position in American law and once confirmed not even Trump can get rid of you.
 
I'm not jumping on the pundits' "Bachelor" wagon until showtime.

If one of them was simply invited as a special guest, will the social media analysts eat their roses?
They are doing a "show" about it. That's more than enough on its own. Hopefully, Trump can tone down his tendencies and make it a little less imbecilic. But I doubt it. We shall see.
 
I can't blame anyone for playing along. You got the most respected position in American law and once confirmed not even Trump can get rid of you.
How long will it, or any other position in American law be respected if we demean it like this? This is the rule of law we are talking about, not some fucking WWE promo.
 
Gorsuch definitely
I hope not. I am Team Hardiman. Gorsuch is like a worse version of Alito. He writes well like Scalia, but without the respect for constitutional rights protected against the government.
 
The current thread title is legit retarded.

I mean, it reflects really poorly on you guys.

The announcement will be made live? As in not in the past or in the future? Jesus Christ. Is it being televised live? Is that what you mean?
Are you really that confused about it?
 
How long does the President usually take to make their announcement? Is it usually a couple of minutes or longer?
 


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How long does the President usually take to make their announcement? Is it usually a couple of minutes or longer?
They usually just announce it and then later bring the nominee to the WH for a brief presser.
 
Hardiman seems more partisan so hopefully he gets it
 
I'm not jumping on the pundits' "Bachelor" wagon until showtime.

If one of them was simply invited to witness the ceremony as a special guest alongside Congressional leaders, will the social media analysts eat their roses?

When I've conducted job interviews I've had more than one person come in to interview on a single day. Is meeting with candidates a faux paux in politics? Aren't confirmation hearings (i.e. job interview) already televised?

Not sure what the problem is with two guys visiting the WH.
 
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