"The-one-Shogun-pulled-on-Rampage"-Kick tutorial (double round house kick)

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  1. Kyryllo

    Kyryllo Kia kaha e hine!

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    So I finished an other tutorial.

    This one is often used in TKD, but I've seen this technique also often used in kickboxing lately. And Anderson Silva and Shogun showed that if you have teh cojones you can pull it even in MMA on the highest level.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9Qklyey_cw


    Enjoy.
     
  2. RJ Powell**

    RJ Powell** Banned Banned

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    It's amazing how TKD guys are so light on they're feet. I believe it has alot to do with the kicking drills they run.

    I would love to add that type of lightfootedness to my arsenal. But then i'd have to join a TKD school and put up with the forms and stuff.

    Good vid.
     
  3. xdavidxlowlifex

    xdavidxlowlifex White Belt

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    great vids as usual

    keep the good work and thank you for sharing this with us
     
  4. Chonbody

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    Thanks!
     
  5. ambertch

    ambertch Purple Belt

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    yeah - one big reason though is due to the point based system and thus sacrificing power for 100% speed. But don't get me wrong - these still have quite a LOT of power to knock the wind out of someone (just not MT roundhouse power)

    There were a lot of crazy fast kick combos I did when I did TKD that didn't have much power when you're talking about a body or leg kick, but actually had decent KO power.
     
  6. Gregster

    Gregster Black Belt

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    Damn, Kyryllo...your instructionals just keep getting better and better. Good enough that I have taken to watching them and challenging myself to find some fault or flaw with them; I'll be damned if I could find one. Every nuance and subtlety of the techniques were broken down, identified, and illustrated.

    Somehow has been playing with their video editing software. :icon_chee

    And double-kudos with the drills segment. I always used to have trouble doing a good, solid double-roundhouse; it was one of those techniques the elite fighters I wanted to emulate could do well to great effect and make it look easy but which I struggled with. I tried doing some recently during a bagwork session and just plain failed miserably. But when I watched the drill where you were just bringing your knees to the target-- which I've never seen before-- I knew I found the answer. That's going into my next heavybag session.

    I hope the novices checking out your vids on YouTube have the sense to appreciate the enormous free lunch they are getting from all your hard work. One could drop a big pile of cash on DVDs and not get tips this good.
     
  7. Gregster

    Gregster Black Belt

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    Yes...kicking drills and footwork drills are done a lot at good schools. It's absolutely key to effective TKD, whether competing or actually fighting, and it's easy to tell when someone ain't got it.

    My old school had three branches of decidedly non-uniform quality, with the main one (where I trained) run by an Olympic-calibre fighter and the two others run guys with decent skill and no real mentoring on how to coach their students. The other schools almost never worked on fundamentals like footwork, and it was one of the main reasons why me and the guys at the main school dominated them at belt-tests and other sparring matches.

    You could just try and do what's shown in the vids; they are good drills, and easy to do. Mostly, you'll need to be willing to make the investment in time necessary to make them work through massive amounts of repetition. Good TKD fighters look the way they do from years of drilling that stuff relentlessly until it's like walking or breathing.

    I don't typically recommend someone using vids in lieu of coaching, but a lot of the stuff Kyrullo shows is effective while still being simple enough to have a decent likelihood of doing well if you pay close attention and apply what's shown. Might be worth a shot.
     
  8. Vector_X

    Vector_X Brown Belt

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    nice post I like some of those drills and am going to try to incorporate them.
     
  9. Jake Martin

    Jake Martin Amateur Fighter

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    Sweet. I'm always up for learning new techniques and your instructionals never disappoint!
     
  10. sokaiya

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    Sorry, no. Silva and Shogun were throwing a fake low/mid-roundhouse with the intent to come around and knock em in the head. The TKD double roundhouse is just some gay point racker that's surprising for it's quickness.
     
  11. Marvin Covar

    Marvin Covar Amateur Fighter

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    It's been ages since you've made an instructional, and you surprise us every time with your concise teachings. Great job, Kyryllo!

    Edit:

    I've a question, though. Which kick should you exert more force?
     
  12. Jiu-Jitsu Cop

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    Nice tutorial. I have a BB in TKD and have done MT for 18 years. I have always credited my kicking to TKD. I jsut learned how to modify my kicks a little to work in MT. Sacrificing a little speed for more power.

    To answer LEGSHOT420 question I would think that the second kick would generate the most power.

    Keep the vids coming my friend, there are those like me who watch them but do not always get around to posting about them.
     
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    doesn't anderson silva have a TKD background of some sort?

    nice video.
     
  14. mego

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    saw the vid earlier today, great instruction
     
  15. Gregster

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    A lot of fighters have a TKD background of some sort. It's one of the most popular and widely-taught arts in the world, and not surprisingly is often found in the background of many pro MMA fighters.

    CroCop started working with some TKD kicking coaches a couple of years ago to improve his kicking.

    It would be a tremendous boon to the overall quality of this thread is comments of this sort were limited to people who actually know what the hell they're talking about.

    Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
     
  16. Kyryllo

    Kyryllo Kia kaha e hine!

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    Totally forgot about this thread.

    Thanks for the nice replies. This tutorial was more difficult to make than the previous, usually I need 20 minutes of filming, this time I needed 4 different sessions.

    I found the double roundhouse to be the most difficult thing to tech people, it has to do with firstly the understanding of the whole complex and principle, but also with with the physical abilities. I could do them right from the start 15 minutes after someone showed me how to, other people really talented and very able need years to master the technique.


    If you do a double kick (the most common) the second kick should be the one where you put all your force in, the first one should still be a real kick thogh not just a fake.
    I you do multiple (3 or more) all kicks should be of about the same force

    Yes he has a TKD background, I read an interview a few years back where he speaks very highly of it and says that he still sees it as viable part of his training, seeing his fights he incorporates a lot of it, not only the kicks but the more subtle things that are not apparent to most people.
     
  17. Gregster

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    My instructor had it down to where he could just about run forward at full speed throwing alternating roundhouse kicks; he could chase opponents around the ring (and students around the dojang) like that. One of the things that made him a total bitch to fight against.
     
  18. ich1ban

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    What he said ^


    Shogun explains this on "Secrets of Chute Box" instructional. First Volume, #14 technique. He starts with the left low kick as a fake to set up the right high kick.
     
  19. Kyryllo

    Kyryllo Kia kaha e hine!

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    What he said (the whitebelt) is bullcrap. It is the exact same principle I explained, nothing contradicts it what th "chute boxe" said. Performing the kick with a fake is the simplest version of it, but it remains the same principle. And Silva did not throw a fake kick on Murray, he banged on his thigh with the first and went high with the second.
     
  20. ambertch

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    No, dude. Trust me. Next time you're sparring go try to pull off that move. (I mean, actually fast enough so you don't square up and get a big teep to the solar plexus)

    I guarantee you the mechanism for the low lead kick fake right BAM into the high kick, is the same as the double roundhouse. The same "hip switch" kinda movement
     

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