So, my favorite threads on sherdog are the ones where people who are really smart talk a lot about the stuff I'm stupid with. I come to you, dear reader, searching for tips on the north south choke. Set ups, details, personal tips/tricks, whatever you north/south chokers have. I suck total balls at this choke, and I wish it to be otherwise. I have many problems with it; keeping people from coming up while I work for the choke, people tucking their chin leading to a face crush rather than a choke, keeping them flat rather than letting them turn on their side, setting it up such that they don't see it coming a mile away, I mean the list goes on. Any help ya'll can give me is much appreciated.