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The MMAnalyst Scoring Breakdown - Yan vs. O'Malley Rounds 1 & 3

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A friend asked me to analyze and score Yan/O'Malley rounds 1 and 3 and I enjoyed it so much I thought I would share with all my Sherbros

<GinJuice>

I really enjoy doing breakdowns of analyzing fights in moments of individual attacks - it really helps me better understand the nuances of scoring and gives greater insight into which shots were really landing and who was really in control of the fight.

When you don't pause/re-watch/document you are kind of doing the impossible of trying to interpret so many actions and compare against each other in real-time, which is basically a seemingly impossible task to do perfectly well, everyone is really just "guessing" what they think happened if they are being honest.

Since Round 2 is clear the only rounds to score in this fight were 1 and 3 - here is my breakdown of each round including:

-List of landed attacks and rating them light/medium/heavy
-Breakdown of attacks/stat analysis
-Round analysis


***for the sake of adding a "point-scoring" element I created an arbitrary system of 1 point for a light strike, 3 for a medium and 10 for a heavy strike - this is completely made-up just to become an interpretative data point, since it's impossible to actually assign points it's just a rough system to give us something else to gauge***

Please note - this is not a perfect system, we are all going to rate strikes differently and it's tough to tell even pausing/re-watching how clean/damaging some shots are. So this is just my perspective after multiple re-watches where I literally pause and rewind repeatedly after every sequence to focus on strike accuracy/damage and rate it to the best of my ability. You might see things differently; I'm just explaining my point of view based on my perception.

ROUND 1

Suga light push kick to knee (1)
Yan medium low-kick (3)
Suga glancing/light teep (1)
Yan medium low-kick (3)
Yan light low-kick (1)
Suga medium straight (3)
Yan medium body-kick (3)
Suga light low-kick (1)
Yan medium low-kick (3)
Suga medium straight (3)
Yan light body-kick (1)
Suga light push kick to knee (1)
Suga light low-kick (1)
Suga medium straight (3)
Yan medium body-kick (3)
Yan medium low-kick (3)
Suga medium jab (3)
Yan light knee to thigh (1)
Suga medium step-though cross (3)
Yan light low kick (1)
Suga light jab (1)
Yan medium overhand (3)
Yan medium push kick to knee (3)
Yan medium hook (3)
Yan glancing light hook (1)
Yan gets takedown lands 3 or 4 light strikes at best (let's call it 3)
Suga glancing straight (1)
Yan medium low kick (3)
Suga light body teep (1)
Suga glancing straight (1)
Yan light jab (1)
Yan glancing light low kick (1)

TOTAL STRIKES

SUGA

Light Kicks - 6
Light Punches - 3
Medium Punches - 5
Total Strikes = 14
Total Points = 24

YAN

Light Kicks - 5
Light Punches - 6
Medium Kicks - 8
Medium Punches - 2
Total Strikes = 21
Total Points = 40

FIGHT METRIC STATS

SUGA = 23 Significant Strikes > landed 14 and 5 were significantly damaging
YAN = 19 Significant Strikes > landed 21 and 10 were significantly damaging

ROUND ANALYSIS

Yan is very cautious this round, gives O'Malley a lot of respect and both guys are using a lot of feints and trying to make reads, with O'Malley moving away and trying to get Yan to freeze in front of him to step in with punches while Yan is looking to freeze O'Malley to close distance and land low kick/body kicks primarily. Yan is clearly the far better/harder kicker and is landing those with much more authority, while O'Malley has a better feel for the boxing range early. After Yan gets a takedown late and O'Malley gets up it looks like the fight is picking up and Yan has a better feel for the range, he slips like a 7-8 punch combo from O'Malley and is starting to pressure effectively causing O'Malley to shoot a takedown at the close of the round.

Re-Watching this round it is literally impossible for me to give the round to O'Malley. He gets out-struck 21-14 (3:2) and in medium strikes 10-5 (2:1), is being walked down the entire round, the best strike of the round to me is the body kick Yan lands against the fence in the early/middle part of the round. O'Malley's offense is pretty much limited to his hands, he can't kick nearly as well as Yan and takes a lot of solid early damage to his legs.

I think this round is kind of reflective to the inherent biases judges have towards punches/head strikes - O'Malley lands 8 punches to the head (5 medium/3 light) and Yan lands 8 punches to the head (2 medium/6 light) so in terms of punches to the head O'Malley does better. But when we factor in the kicks O'Malley lands only 6 light kicks (2 of which are push kicks to knee which barely do any damage) while Yan lands 13 kicks (8 medium/5 light) some of which are really clean and powerful.

Never once does Yan look stunned or hurt and he is the aggressor the entire round. It's just shady to be honest, this isn't like Sterling/Yan 2 where the first round is so low-volume and tentative that it really comes down to interpreting one or two strikes a certain way. This is beyond clear - Yan is coming forward the whole round, out-landing his opponent 3:2, and landing the bigger strikes from those 2:1. He also gets the only takedown/extended control in the round even if it only lasts under a minute.

Clear round for Yan for me.

ROUND 3

Suga glancing body kick (1)
Suga light jab (1)
Yan light glancing hook (1)
Yan medium jumping switch kick > partially blocked (3)
Suga light body teep (1)
Suga medium low kick (3)
Suga light jab (1)
Yan glancing light low kick (1)
Suga light low kick (1)
Suga light push kick to knee (1)
Yan medium body kick (3)
Yan glancing straight to the body (1)
Suga light jab (1)
Suga light jab (1)
Suga light low kick (1)
Yan glancing light uppercut (1)
Yan glancing light hook (1)
Suga heavy step knee (10) > cuts Yan
Suga medium hook (3)
Suga medium partially blocked head kick (3)
Suga throws a three punch combination which is all partially blocked but does get through, calling it 3 light strikes (3)
Suga medium knee (3) > this could've been devastating but comes up too high so doesn't go directly into Yan's head, instead it goes up past it but definitely does damage
Yan medium body kick (3)
Yan heavy hook (10)
Yan medium left (3)
Suga light jab (1)
Suga medium straight (3)
Yan heavy counter hook (10)
Suga light jab (1)
Yan medium low kick (3)
Suga light jab (1)
Suga heavy head-kick (10) > even though partially block it clearly hurts Yan and causes him to decide to shoot
Suga lands 3 light elbows from the clinch (3)
Yan lands 3 light clinch strikes (3)
Suga light jab (1)
Suga medium straight (3)
Suga medium straight (3)
Yan heavy left counter (10)
Yan medium knee to the thigh (3)
Suga light teep to the body (1)
Suga light jab (1)
Suga light jab (1)
Yan medium leg kick (3)
Yan lands five light ground strikes from top position to close the round (5)

TOTAL STRIKES

SUGA

Light Kicks - 6
Light Punches - 16
Medium Kicks - 3
Medium Punches - 4
Heavy Kicks - 2
Heavy Punches - 0
Total Strikes = 31
Total Points = 63

YAN

Light Kicks - 1
Light Punches - 12
Medium Kicks - 6
Medium Punches - 2
Heavy Kicks - 0
Heavy Punches - 3
Total Strikes = 24
Total Points = 67

FIGHT METRIC STATS

SUGA = 40 significant strikes/46 total strikes > only landed 31 strikes in total, with 7 medium attacks and 2 heavy attacks
YAN = 15 significant strikes/24 total strikes > this is actually pretty accurate for once, landed 24 total strikes with 8 medium attacks and 3 heavy attacks

ROUND ANALYSIS

This is a hell of a round, one of the best of the year! Even if you hate Suga as a personality (which I do) you've gotta respect his toughness and skills. He makes this an insane back and forth round by coming out hot and putting a lot of volume in front of Yan and is doing a great job keeping him at the edge of range.

Ironically it's when he cuts/hurts Yan that he lets him back in the fight - it's kind of a replay of the second round where he stuns Yan with a heavy punch and thinks he can just walk in and lace him again and eats a massive counter. Yan being so short means he wants to trap you against the cage or get you to walk in on him if you have a reach advantage, he has a lot of problems with getting O'Malley to attack him or sit against the cage so there is a lot of range-finding techniques and feints needed to close the space to set-up shots. Once Suga hurts Yan he gets laced by a ridiculous two-piece combination that is absolutely brutal and shows a hell of chin. Yan really only gets the looks he really wants after Suga tags him clean and thinks he can build on it, the range/reach advantage is so huge that in a 3 round fight Suga can use all his gas tank on defensive movement to negate these situations more. If this went 2 more rounds I don't think Suga would be able to stay on his bicycle; he took a really smart approach and banked on forcing Yan to lead and not get stuck against the fence and it worked really well at times.

Looking at the stats O'Malley outworks and out-lands Yan and does comparative damage (7 medium/2 heavy vs. 8 medium/3 heavy). Does the extra 10 light strikes make up for an extra medium/heavy attack from Yan? It's really a matter of opinion and how you rate those strikes.

I scored the round for O'Malley originally and on rewatch I'm torn, I feel it could go either way but I do lean towards O'Malley since he had more sustained offense in spots and Yan wasn't able to really extend the sequences where he hurt O'Malley with counters. However, a lot of this had to do with O'Malley grabbing the cage/hooking the gloves to prevent takedowns, stop GnP, and also escape against the cage late.

But if we disregard the cheating it's a coin-flip round that kind of comes down to perception of damage; does getting cut from a clean knee to the face equal a huge counter hook that stuns you and makes you lose equilibrium and retreat? It's impossible distinction to make, I think however you score this round is fine and based on people's preference to score blood more heavily it's not surprising they went with O'Malley.

To me Yan definitely got robbed, he had two clear rounds and then a coin-flip round that leaned ever so slightly towards Suga. O'Malley over-performed and put on a great fight, so I think it's one of those situations where when someone exceeds the expectation they get more credit then they deserve. Most of us thought Yan would eventually break O'Malley and he didn't, he ate tons of huge shots to the legs/body/head and stayed competitive and even hurt Yan and won the last round. But that doesn't mean he didn't clearly lose the first round and it's not even really debatable.

Then when you take all the cheating into account, with the number of times he grabbed the cage/hooked the gloves/eye-poked O'Malley really deserved to lose this fight. It definitely pays to cheat if the UFC wants you to win lol.
 
Create all the subjective scoring scales you want, won't change the results.
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100% Agree. While round 1 was kinda competitive, there is no way not to score it for Yan.

O'Malley did more than hold his ground, clearly impressed everyone, but it was a clear cut blatant robbery. Plus the cheating.
 
Create all the subjective scoring scales you want, won't change the results.
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No one is trying to change the result, I'm just trying to share my interpretation of the fight to fight fans interested with in-depth scoring analysis.

The fact that a Suga fan would be shook by my post just shows deep down you all really know he lost, regardless of the result.
 
A friend asked me to analyze and score Yan/O'Malley rounds 1 and 3 and I enjoyed it so much I thought I would share with all my Sherbros

<GinJuice>

I really enjoy doing breakdowns of analyzing fights in moments of individual attacks - it really helps me better understand the nuances of scoring and gives greater insight into which shots were really landing and who was really in control of the fight.

When you don't pause/re-watch/document you are kind of doing the impossible of trying to interpret so many actions and compare against each other in real-time, which is basically a seemingly impossible task to do perfectly well, everyone is really just "guessing" what they think happened if they are being honest.

Since Round 2 is clear the only rounds to score in this fight were 1 and 3 - here is my breakdown of each round including:

-List of landed attacks and rating them light/medium/heavy
-Breakdown of attacks/stat analysis
-Round analysis


***for the sake of adding a "point-scoring" element I created an arbitrary system of 1 point for a light strike, 3 for a medium and 10 for a heavy strike - this is completely made-up just to become an interpretative data point, since it's impossible to actually assign points it's just a rough system to give us something else to gauge***

Please note - this is not a perfect system, we are all going to rate strikes differently and it's tough to tell even pausing/re-watching how clean/damaging some shots are. So this is just my perspective after multiple re-watches where I literally pause and rewind repeatedly after every sequence to focus on strike accuracy/damage and rate it to the best of my ability. You might see things differently; I'm just explaining my point of view based on my perception.

ROUND 1

Suga light push kick to knee (1)
Yan medium low-kick (3)
Suga glancing/light teep (1)
Yan medium low-kick (3)
Yan light low-kick (1)
Suga medium straight (3)
Yan medium body-kick (3)
Suga light low-kick (1)
Yan medium low-kick (3)
Suga medium straight (3)
Yan light body-kick (1)
Suga light push kick to knee (1)
Suga light low-kick (1)
Suga medium straight (3)
Yan medium body-kick (3)
Yan medium low-kick (3)
Suga medium jab (3)
Yan light knee to thigh (1)
Suga medium step-though cross (3)
Yan light low kick (1)
Suga light jab (1)
Yan medium overhand (3)
Yan medium push kick to knee (3)
Yan medium hook (3)
Yan glancing light hook (1)
Yan gets takedown lands 3 or 4 light strikes at best (let's call it 3)
Suga glancing straight (1)
Yan medium low kick (3)
Suga light body teep (1)
Suga glancing straight (1)
Yan light jab (1)
Yan glancing light low kick (1)

TOTAL STRIKES

SUGA

Light Kicks - 6
Light Punches - 3
Medium Punches - 5
Total Strikes = 14
Total Points = 24

YAN

Light Kicks - 5
Light Punches - 6
Medium Kicks - 8
Medium Punches - 2
Total Strikes = 21
Total Points = 40

FIGHT METRIC STATS

SUGA = 23 Significant Strikes > landed 14 and 5 were significantly damaging
YAN = 19 Significant Strikes > landed 21 and 10 were significantly damaging

ROUND ANALYSIS

Yan is very cautious this round, gives O'Malley a lot of respect and both guys are using a lot of feints and trying to make reads, with O'Malley moving away and trying to get Yan to freeze in front of him to step in with punches while Yan is looking to freeze O'Malley to close distance and land low kick/body kicks primarily. Yan is clearly the far better/harder kicker and is landing those with much more authority, while O'Malley has a better feel for the boxing range early. After Yan gets a takedown late and O'Malley gets up it looks like the fight is picking up and Yan has a better feel for the range, he slips like a 7-8 punch combo from O'Malley and is starting to pressure effectively causing O'Malley to shoot a takedown at the close of the round.

Re-Watching this round it is literally impossible for me to give the round to O'Malley. He gets out-struck 21-14 (3:2) and in medium strikes 10-5 (2:1), is being walked down the entire round, the best strike of the round to me is the body kick Yan lands against the fence in the early/middle part of the round. O'Malley's offense is pretty much limited to his hands, he can't kick nearly as well as Yan and takes a lot of solid early damage to his legs.

I think this round is kind of reflective to the inherent biases judges have towards punches/head strikes - O'Malley lands 8 punches to the head (5 medium/3 light) and Yan lands 8 punches to the head (2 medium/6 light) so in terms of punches to the head O'Malley does better. But when we factor in the kicks O'Malley lands only 6 light kicks (2 of which are push kicks to knee which barely do any damage) while Yan lands 13 kicks (8 medium/5 light) some of which are really clean and powerful.

Never once does Yan look stunned or hurt and he is the aggressor the entire round. It's just shady to be honest, this isn't like Sterling/Yan 2 where the first round is so low-volume and tentative that it really comes down to interpreting one or two strikes a certain way. This is beyond clear - Yan is coming forward the whole round, out-landing his opponent 3:2, and landing the bigger strikes from those 2:1. He also gets the only takedown/extended control in the round even if it only lasts under a minute.

Clear round for Yan for me.

ROUND 3

Suga glancing body kick (1)
Suga light jab (1)
Yan light glancing hook (1)
Yan medium jumping switch kick > partially blocked (3)
Suga light body teep (1)
Suga medium low kick (3)
Suga light jab (1)
Yan glancing light low kick (1)
Suga light low kick (1)
Suga light push kick to knee (1)
Yan medium body kick (3)
Yan glancing straight to the body (1)
Suga light jab (1)
Suga light jab (1)
Suga light low kick (1)
Yan glancing light uppercut (1)
Yan glancing light hook (1)
Suga heavy step knee (10) > cuts Yan
Suga medium hook (3)
Suga medium partially blocked head kick (3)
Suga throws a three punch combination which is all partially blocked but does get through, calling it 3 light strikes (3)
Suga medium knee (3) > this could've been devastating but comes up too high so doesn't go directly into Yan's head, instead it goes up past it but definitely does damage
Yan medium body kick (3)
Yan heavy hook (10)
Yan medium left (3)
Suga light jab (1)
Suga medium straight (3)
Yan heavy counter hook (10)
Suga light jab (1)
Yan medium low kick (3)
Suga light jab (1)
Suga heavy head-kick (10) > even though partially block it clearly hurts Yan and causes him to decide to shoot
Suga lands 3 light elbows from the clinch (3)
Yan lands 3 light clinch strikes (3)
Suga light jab (1)
Suga medium straight (3)
Suga medium straight (3)
Yan heavy left counter (10)
Yan medium knee to the thigh (3)
Suga light teep to the body (1)
Suga light jab (1)
Suga light jab (1)
Yan medium leg kick (3)
Yan lands five light ground strikes from top position to close the round (5)

TOTAL STRIKES

SUGA

Light Kicks - 6
Light Punches - 16
Medium Kicks - 3
Medium Punches - 4
Heavy Kicks - 2
Heavy Punches - 0
Total Strikes = 31
Total Points = 63

YAN

Light Kicks - 1
Light Punches - 12
Medium Kicks - 6
Medium Punches - 2
Heavy Kicks - 0
Heavy Punches - 3
Total Strikes = 24
Total Points = 67

FIGHT METRIC STATS

SUGA = 40 significant strikes/46 total strikes > only landed 31 strikes in total, with 7 medium attacks and 2 heavy attacks
YAN = 15 significant strikes/24 total strikes > this is actually pretty accurate for once, landed 24 total strikes with 8 medium attacks and 3 heavy attacks

ROUND ANALYSIS

This is a hell of a round, one of the best of the year! Even if you hate Suga as a personality (which I do) you've gotta respect his toughness and skills. He makes this an insane back and forth round by coming out hot and putting a lot of volume in front of Yan and is doing a great job keeping him at the edge of range.

Ironically it's when he cuts/hurts Yan that he lets him back in the fight - it's kind of a replay of the second round where he stuns Yan with a heavy punch and thinks he can just walk in and lace him again and eats a massive counter. Yan being so short means he wants to trap you against the cage or get you to walk in on him if you have a reach advantage, he has a lot of problems with getting O'Malley to attack him or sit against the cage so there is a lot of range-finding techniques and feints needed to close the space to set-up shots. Once Suga hurts Yan he gets laced by a ridiculous two-piece combination that is absolutely brutal and shows a hell of chin. Yan really only gets the looks he really wants after Suga tags him clean and thinks he can build on it, the range/reach advantage is so huge that in a 3 round fight Suga can use all his gas tank on defensive movement to negate these situations more. If this went 2 more rounds I don't think Suga would be able to stay on his bicycle; he took a really smart approach and banked on forcing Yan to lead and not get stuck against the fence and it worked really well at times.

Looking at the stats O'Malley outworks and out-lands Yan and does comparative damage (7 medium/2 heavy vs. 8 medium/3 heavy). Does the extra 10 light strikes make up for an extra medium/heavy attack from Yan? It's really a matter of opinion and how you rate those strikes.

I scored the round for O'Malley originally and on rewatch I'm torn, I feel it could go either way but I do lean towards O'Malley since he had more sustained offense in spots and Yan wasn't able to really extend the sequences where he hurt O'Malley with counters. However, a lot of this had to do with O'Malley grabbing the cage/hooking the gloves to prevent takedowns, stop GnP, and also escape against the cage late.

But if we disregard the cheating it's a coin-flip round that kind of comes down to perception of damage; does getting cut from a clean knee to the face equal a huge counter hook that stuns you and makes you lose equilibrium and retreat? It's impossible distinction to make, I think however you score this round is fine and based on people's preference to score blood more heavily it's not surprising they went with O'Malley.

To me Yan definitely got robbed, he had two clear rounds and then a coin-flip round that leaned ever so slightly towards Suga. O'Malley over-performed and put on a great fight, so I think it's one of those situations where when someone exceeds the expectation they get more credit then they deserve. Most of us thought Yan would eventually break O'Malley and he didn't, he ate tons of huge shots to the legs/body/head and stayed competitive and even hurt Yan and won the last round. But that doesn't mean he didn't clearly lose the first round and it's not even really debatable.

Then when you take all the cheating into account, with the number of times he grabbed the cage/hooked the gloves/eye-poked O'Malley really deserved to lose this fight. It definitely pays to cheat if the UFC wants you to win lol.
Thank you for your analysis/scoring. After watching the fight a few times I looked at the official stats with a grain of salt, especially the first round.
 
No one is trying to change the result, I'm just trying to share my interpretation of the fight to fight fans interested with in-depth scoring analysis.

The fact that a Suga fan would be shook by my post just shows deep down you all really know he lost, regardless of the result.

The fact that you wrote an essay with your own made up scoring system that benefits your preconceived notions says a lot more about your feelings on the fight then mine.
 
The fact that you wrote an essay with your own made up scoring system that benefits your preconceived notions says a lot more about your feelings on the fight then mine.

If you take the TS at their word, this was simply recounting an exercise that their friend asked them to do.
Even if it's purely academic, this would definitely be the place to share it.

Either way, based on their response to my comment, they're having a tough time of it lately.
 
The fact that you wrote an essay with your own made up scoring system that benefits your preconceived notions says a lot more about your feelings on the fight then mine.

I literally said I added points to rating the strikes just as an arbitrary interpretive data point to look at. I didn't score the round based on who had more "points," I just think it adds another interesting lens to view fight scoring through.

Your responses actually show that you don't care about analysis or having a discussion, which actually does say a ton more about your feelings on the fight than mine. Otherwise you'd have a better argument then "doesn't change the result" when that was literally never discussed and not the point of this post.

We all have inherent bias, at least I can admit mine and try to be as objective as possible, which is why I literally re-watch the sequences as many times as possible to try and give a fair gauge on how to rate the strikes.
 
Sean had a great showing. He surprised most of us, especially when you consider how low our expectations were. He proved himself in a huge fight against an incredibly tough opponent. Our perspective of him has changed significantly because of it.

He still clearly lost that fight and there's almost no way to give him the bout unless you're utilizing mental gymnastics.
 
If you take the TS at their word, this was simply recounting an exercise that their friend asked them to do.
Even if it's purely academic, this would definitely be the place to share it.

Either way, based on their response to my comment, they're having a tough time of it lately.

You compared me to "Weasle", said I lived at home, then asked me if I needed help being homeless and all.

Way to add depth to the conversation Sherbro lol.
 
good analysis over all. just rewatched it last night myself, and came to the same conclusion (again) - just no way to give round 1 to o'malley. no way. octagon control, landing the much bigger shots, getting the takedowns. round 3 was closer but even that could have been given to yan, although the cut is what was going to sway people. the denier threads the next day were just stupid. it was a robbery. not the worst i've ever seen, but it definitely was one.
 
you all really know he lost, regardless of the result.

Yes, buddeh. That seems like a completely impartial statement. You were doing so well, until you threw it all away with that last sentence.

At which point am I supposed to take your opinion as being unbiased? You cast anybody that disagrees with you as being one of “them”. Which obviously means you see yourself as one of “us”.

I personally don’t have a stake, or fuck to care about that fight. I picked Yan to beat O’Malley.

But, I do know that Yan didn’t show me enough to judge him the clear winner. It hinges on round 1. And people will all judge that according to what THEY saw, or possibly even what they WANTED to see.

Emotion seems to rule the day in a lot of these close fights. And there isn’t one clear diagnostic to claim either guy won, imo.

Quote every stat imaginable. It isn’t changing my mind about what I saw. And if you literally need to rewatch a fight 100 times to come up with this “breakdown”..

How is that valid, or applicable to the 3 judges that scored it in real time? Hindsight, Monday Morning QB.. etc.

The official result is NEVER changing.
 
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