a lot of old bands still putting out good shit? most of the time their creative spark is gone by that time and its just a cash grab. i cant name any old school great thrash band that put out a good album in their later career. closest i can think of is Exodus back in like 2004. i can name so many more failures and misfires.
the thrash thats OK nowadays has to borrow from black and death metal to be interesting. ive been around long enough that i remember the thrash "revival" around 2005-2011 when bands like Municipal Waste got really big. and thats over a decade old now - that stuff was derivative back then. so how derivative is today's thrash, i wonder?
best new-ish thrash oriented band i have heard is Ripper and they are certainly death metal influenced.
ive just seen and heard so much thrash metal that it really takes something special to hold my attention. its cool that you have a good local scene but since im not there i cant experience that, so i cant judge it.
here's some Ripper
Deicide and Rotting Christ are perpetually on tourSo pumped for this tour coming up. Somehow still haven't seen Deicide or Rotting Christ yet, so I'm excited, especially since Deicide are one of my favorites.
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death metal and black metal have a lot more room, creatively, than thrash does. i mean, think about the difference between a band like Von or Beherit and a band like Abigor or Dissection. i cant really come up with such a stark difference in sound when i think of thrash. if you can, i am all ears. always down to hear stuff i havent heard.That's like YOUR OPINION. I'll continue to listen to Thrash and go to Thrash shows. I'm not the only fucking person there either, it still has every bit of a healthy following as Death Metal or any other Metal genre. I like Thrash speed, I like Thrash riffs, I like Thrash crunch, I like Thrash drumming rhythm. I could care less if something is "derivative" of the old shit, I WANT IT TO BE.
The same exact shit can be said for Death Metal, and for some reason when Death Metal branches out into other genres you guys claim that as a commendable feature, but when Thrash Metal does it, it suddenly doesn't count as Thrash anymore. That makes no fucking sense.
You were "old enough to remember 2005-2011" I was old enough to remember the 80's. I was around with Death Metal was fucking invented.
you know its been a very long time since i have heard those albums, i just never liked that singer. maybe ill go back and give em another go.I believe Exodus' Exhibit A, B and Shovel Headed Killing Machine have damn fine shredding between Holt and Altus and are not exactly repetitive.... agree with the rest though.
Stick with what you like, I don't need to try and convert anyone. I just think the Thrash Hate is unwarranted.death metal and black metal have a lot more room, creatively, than thrash does. i mean, think about the difference between a band like Von or Beherit and a band like Abigor or Dissection. i cant really come up with such a stark difference in sound when i think of thrash. if you can, i am all ears. always down to hear stuff i havent heard.
i like metal that branches out and is weird and tries to do odd things. i think metal is at its best when its weird. with thrash you have some cool bands like Blind Illusion or Hellwitch or Voivod that are along those lines but there are not very many. i can name weird death metal bands all day.
i do love thrash - Slayer's albums up to and including Seasons are my favorite metal ever. but i just believe the genre is more musically limited than death or black metal, or even grindcore.
Exodus have been so solid for a long time. Sad I never got to see them with Souza, he's my favorite of their singers, but the guy they brought back is awesome, too.I believe Exodus' Exhibit A, B and Shovel Headed Killing Machine have damn fine shredding between Holt and Altus and are not exactly repetitive.... agree with the rest though.
For real lol. Same with Immolation, when I first started going to shows as a kid in 2000, I swear every other tour coming through had Immolation as the opener.Deicide and Rotting Christ are perpetually on tour