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lol what?

Just because there's "Conservatives" (who knows who they really are) posting their dislike for Islam in the comments section doesn't take anything away from the content in the videos. That would be absurd.

Also the crusaders were justified in trying to reclaim the holy lands and fight off the Muslim invasions of Europe. The best defense at that point was offense. Islam needed to be contained.

Christians needed safe passage so they could go on a pilgrimage without having to worry about being robbed or enslaved.

Well I just want to know if you think a non bias person would name their video.

" How the Crusades saved Europe And America"

"Saladin: Good or Evil?" (Basically bashes Saladin the whole video)

This guy is a Crusaboo as I'd like to call. He is no different than Rome fanboys that justify everything Roman and dress up as them to LARP and glorifies them.

Btw I was a little unclear since I was trying to link a reddit QA of "Ask Historians" Read the 8 comments which contain answers by the historians of "Ask Historians".

 

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Well I just want to know if you think a non bias person would name their video.

" How the Crusades saved Europe And America"

"Saladin: Good or Evil?" (Basically bashes Saladin the whole video)

This guy is a Crusaboo as I'd like to call. He is no different than Rome fanboys that justify everything Roman and dress up as them and glorifies them.

Btw I was a little unclear since I was trying to link a reddit QA of "Ask Historians" Read the answer by the historian.

Wow I think you're being way too defensive here. Islam must only be portrayed as perfect and noble right? Just like in the movies?

This video is titled "HOW THE CRUSADES SAVED EUROPE!". They did save Europe from Muslim invasions. Islam has been trying to get in for a very long time. Also the person who uploaded the video is not the Real Crusades History. There's no video with that name on his channel.



Where's this video of Saladin? Perhaps you're exaggerating and he was telling the truth. He doesn't hold back on what was most likely the true nature and character of other key figures in the crusader armies.

 

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Wow I think you're being way too defensive here. Islam must only be portrayed as perfect and noble right? Just like in the movies?

This video is titled "HOW THE CRUSADES SAVED EUROPE!". They did save Europe from Muslim invasions. Islam has been trying to get in for a very long time. Also the person who uploaded the video is not the Real Crusades History. There's no video with that name on his channel.



Where's this video of Saladin? Perhaps you're exaggerating and he was telling the truth. He doesn't hold back on the true nature and character of other key figures in the crusader armies.

He deletes videos. You can still find them elsewhere. Crusades saved Murica!

https://gloria.tv/video/ATwnUUoH6p9b6Jfd8RmwaFCS8



Look at his whole page. its full of Crusader Iconography, his logo is the crusader cross, he blamed constantinople for being sacked by crusaders. He doesn't really have any interest in seeing it from the "Saracen" side. I won't push this anymore since you're a fan but just keep it in mind when you watch his videos.

 

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He deletes videos. You can still find them elsewhere. Crusades saved Murica!

https://gloria.tv/video/ATwnUUoH6p9b6Jfd8RmwaFCS8



Look at his whole page. its full of Crusader Iconography, his logo is the crusader cross, he blamed constantinople for being sacked by crusaders. He doesn't really have any interest in seeing it from the "Saracen" side. I won't push this anymore since you're a fan but just keep it in mind when you watch his videos.

Those videos are most likely still there and other people are downloading them and renaming them. That happens quite often. Link stuff from his yt.

He primarily focuses on the crusader armies, what's wrong with that? There's so much to cover and it's great that someone like him has the time to give us this information.

Does seeing artwork related to the video really bother you? Heaven forbid someone use a crusader cross as an avatar and logo when they make a yt channel about the crusades.

He gives the accounts of the other side:



I believe he quotes Arab chroniclers often in his videos.

 

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Those videos are most likely still there and other people are downloading them and renaming them. That happens quite often. Link stuff from his yt.

No theyre not. Other people arent renaming them they uploaded them to other platforms. I knew about this channel years ago. I remember watching them.

He primarily focus on the crusader armies, what's wrong with that? There's so much to cover and it's great that someone like him has the time to give us this information.

Theres nothing wrong with that but hes constantly gushing over them, disparaging their opponents and trivializing their bad episodes. He for example gushes over pre-islamic spain's intellectual achievements and then cherry picks narratives to bash the umayyads. He depicts richard as a great man and saladin a villain. And then he names his channel "Real Crusades History". He couldnt even do the descent thing to call it Real Crusader History.

Does seeing artwork related to the video really bother you? Heaven forbid someone use a crusader cross as an avatar and logo when they make a yt channel about the crusades.

Youre misrepresenting what i said. The artwork doesnt bother me but it would make sense why a bias channel would employ it so heavily one way which is why i brought it up.

I think channels like history time, historia civilis do a better job. I like epimetheus too.

 

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No theyre not. Other people arent renaming them they uploaded them to other platforms. I knew about this channel years ago. I remember watching them.

If they're not then who cares? The names aren't bad or anything and after watching those videos I've found nothing wrong with them. Here's another one he made about Saladin.



From the Comments section of that new video:

TheSilentStorm
3 years ago
Just to differentiate, would you say this is an updated more in-depth, expanded, and/or critical version of your six year old "Saladin: Good or Evil?" video?

Real Crusades History
3 years ago
+TheSilentStorm In a way, I guess you could say that. This is more of a long-play listening experience, whereas "Saladin: Good or Evil" is a short, visual presentation that makes several concise points accompanied by source references.

It's an old channel.

Theres nothing wrong with that but hes constantly gushing over them, disparaging their opponents and trivializing their bad episodes. He for example gushes over pre-islamic spain's intellectual achievements and then cherry picks narratives to bash the umayyads. He depicts richard as a great man and saladin a villain. And then he names his channel "Real Crusades History". He couldnt even do the descent thing to call it Real Crusader History.

I'm not seeing any gushing. I think since you're a Muslim you're just being overly defensive. You're reaching so ridiculously hard.

Can you link the video of with his comments about pre Islamic Spain?

This one?



I see nothing wrong with these at all and you're being very vague.

Again you're being so defensive. What sources do you have that counter his analysis of Saladin and Richard? He quotes actual sources.

Youre misrepresenting what i said. The artwork doesnt bother me but it would make sense why a bias channel would employ it so heavily one way which is why i brought it up.

I think channels like history time, historia civilis do a better job. I like epimetheus too.

Employ it so heavily? It's a channel about the crusades...

This is ridiculous. RCH provides information other channels don't. Your loss but your own bias is clearly showing. He goes in depth into the character of key players and he doesn't paint every Crusader as a saint.

 

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If they're not then who cares? The names aren't bad or anything and after watching those videos I've found nothing wrong with them. Here's another one he made about Saladin.



From the Comments section of that new video:

TheSilentStorm
3 years ago
Just to differentiate, would you say this is an updated more in-depth, expanded, and/or critical version of your six year old "Saladin: Good or Evil?" video?

Real Crusades History
3 years ago
+TheSilentStorm In a way, I guess you could say that. This is more of a long-play listening experience, whereas "Saladin: Good or Evil" is a short, visual presentation that makes several concise points accompanied by source references.

It's an old channel.



I'm not seeing any gushing. I think since you're a Muslim you're just being overly defensive. You're reaching so ridiculously hard.

Can you link the video of with his comments about pre Islamic Spain?

This one?



I see nothing wrong with these at all and you're being very vague.

Again you're being so defensive. What sources do you have that counter his analysis of Saladin and Richard? He quotes actual sources.



Employ it so heavily? It's a channel about the crusades...

This is ridiculous. RCH provides information other channels don't. Your loss but your own bias is clearly showing. He goes in depth into the character of key players and he doesn't paint every Crusader as a saint.

In response to "its a channel about crusades" Imagine someone made a channel "Real World War 2 History" and it was full of Soviet Iconography and the videos in general had a pro Soviet tilt. Wouldn't you say it is bias?

if the lengthy rebuttals that I linked or my other points cant convince you then we will just have to agree to disagree.

 

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In response to "its a channel about crusades" Imagine someone made a channel "Real World War 2 History" and it was full of Soviet Iconography and the videos in general had a pro Soviet tilt. Wouldn't you say it is bias?

if the lengthy rebuttals that I linked or my other points cant convince you then we will just have to agree to disagree.

The guy uses art work directly related to content of the video. He used a painting of Saladin in the video I posted. If he used Baldwin then that would be weird.

Here are the Turks portrayed:



Here Bohemond and a Turk are shown because it's a video about both.



Same thing here



You're reaching so hard and it's because you're overly defensive.

Does this make you feel better? He quoted someone saying Bohemond's "arrogance was everywhere manifest". He talks about the good and bad qualities of key historical figures on both sides. Hollywood taints and distorts history so it's nice to have a group of people set the record straight. He used Arab historians to paint a clear picture of Saladin. Islam has been conquering, slaughtering and enslaving since its inception. It makes sense for Saladin to believe in Islamic dominance and belief that Christianity wasn't equal. His predecessors were ruthless. The Seljuk's rampaged their way through The middle East and Anatolia. Their descendants are still rampaging in the Levant. Muslims today still aren't very tolerant.

Good things were said about Saladin too. We can't let feelings get in the way of the truth.



Also you have to get over the way he talks lol. He's pretty much like this in all of his videos.

You didn't provide lengthy rebuttals to anything. You just made vague comments about his videos without being specific

 

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Are you fucking kidding me?!

 

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Are you fucking kidding me?!

I wish I was, people come up with some nasty stuff..

 

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The medieval and Renaissance thread* People were still getting medieval on each other after the medieval period lol.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_hussars

 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamluk

Mamluk, meaning "property", is an Arabic designation for slaves. The term is most commonly used to refer to non-muslim slave soldiers and Muslim rulers of slave origin.

The most enduring Mamluk realm was the knightly military caste in Egypt in the Middle Ages, which developed from the ranks of slave soldiers. These were mostly enslaved Turkic peoples, Egyptian Copts, Circassians,Abkhazians, and Georgians. Many Mamluks were also of Balkan origin (Albanians, Greeks, and South Slavs).

 

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