The Kochs freeze out Trump

[JDragon]

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/kochs-freeze-out-trump-120752.html

This article makes the point while Trump does not need the money, he needs access to the network and also could need access to data and analyses.

At least the latter point is BS. Trump runs independent of fact and reason.

 

[Pupi]

Makes sense. They're going to put more money on people who actually have a shot at winning, like Rubio, Bush and Cruz. The GOP needs the hispanic vote and they know Trump has been too divisive.

 

[Dolomite]

Whoa now!

Them boy's is Scooter's meal ticket! Hands off!

 

[Exception]

Makes sense. They're going to put more money on people who actually have a shot at winning, like Rubio, Bush and Cruz. The GOP needs the hispanic vote and they know Trump has been too divisive.

Jesus. You're just competing to win the "I don't know how to read, or what words mean, but I still post while pretending to have the intelligence to form an 'opinion'" award today, aren't you?

Read the article and then come back and post an apology for being such a GD'ed moron.

 

[Pupi]

Jesus. You're just competing to win the "I don't know how to read, or what words mean, but I still post while pretending to have the intelligence to form an 'opinion'" award today, aren't you?

Read the article and then come back and post an apology for being such a GD'ed moron.

Isn't it a little too early for you to have your jimmies rustled? Wifey didn't make you your hot cocoa and cheerios this morning?

I didn't read the entire article and I didn't gather my opinion from that article. Just commenting on what is apparent.

If the article stated something that I didn't see, how about you point that out and we discuss it like civilized adults instead of you being an asshole? Trump doesn't need their money and I didn't comment on that. So what? He still requires their resources. These two quotes support my previous statement:

"A spokesman for i360 declined to comment on why the company, considered the leading supplier of voter data and analytics on the right, refused to provide services to Trump’s campaign. An AFP official said the group doesn’t discuss its event invitations and announces only confirmed speakers. The Koch-backed Latino-voter-targeting outfit LIBRE Initiative was more direct, explaining it has not invited Trump to any of its events and has no plans to do so. A spokesperson pointed to a statement from the group’s president denouncing Trump for his inflammatory statements about Mexican immigrants and called him out as an inconsistent conservative “who has gotten ahead through sensationalism.”

"Trump’s surprising traction has prompted hand-wringing by the Republican Party elite, who fear that his bombastic rhetoric could damage the GOP’s prospects in the general election. But their ability to halt his momentum is limited by rules and traditions requiring them to stay neutral in open party primaries, as well as a fear of alienating the significant portion of the party base to which Trump appeals."

 

[ultramanhyata]

So, are we saying at this point that a person simply cannot become the republican candidate for president without the personal backing of two private citizens, Charles and David Koch?

It's really that naked and stark? And the GOP is fine with it?

 

[MusterX]

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/kochs-freeze-out-trump-120752.html

This article makes the point while Trump does not need the money, he needs access to the network and also could need access to data and analyses.

At least the latter point is BS. Trump runs independent of fact and reason.

Not that I'm a trump fan, because I'm not, but you characterize him as "running independent of fact and reason." How does someone, who would obviously have to be mental defect with that sort of characterization, become a billionaire? Are you saying he is crazy or just he disagrees with you on major topics? Hyperbole?

 

[Diamond Jim]

Trump is 100% correct when he says thee big donors aren't giving Walker and Bush big money because they like the guy. They want to control them when they get in office.

I also like to remind everyone that the all American Koch brothers had their wealth handed to them from Stalin when their grandfather built the Soviet Union's gas refineries.

 

[JDragon]

Not that I'm a trump fan, because I'm not, but you characterize him as "running independent of fact and reason." How does someone, who would obviously have to be mental defect with that sort of characterization, become a billionaire? Are you saying he is crazy or just he disagrees with you on major topics? Hyperbole?

'He made a lot of money, therefore he must be a reasonable person even if he does and says unreasonable things not grounded in fact'? Is that what you are saying?

I disagree with all GOP candidates on almost everything, but I would not give all of them a similar characterization.

 

[MusterX]

'He made a lot of money, therefore he must be a reasonable person even if he does and says unreasonable things not grounded in fact'? Is that what you are saying?

I disagree with all GOP candidates on almost everything, but I would not give all of them a similar characterization.

You didn't characterize him as unreasonable, which I understand, you characterized him as "independent of fact and reason."

 

[clmetal]

'He made a lot of money, therefore he must be a reasonable person even if he does and says unreasonable things not grounded in fact'? Is that what you are saying?

I disagree with all GOP candidates on almost everything, but I would not give all of them a similar characterization.

It's obvious, your a self-righteous european liberal and the point of your thread is to mention "the Koch brothers"; as if no one else (like European-born Soros) is using money for influence and to sway election results.

Btw, what did he say that is "unreasonable and not grounded in fact"? His comment about illegals from Mexico?

 

[JDragon]

It's obvious, your a self-righteous european liberal

Yes

and the point of your thread is to mention "the Koch brothers"; as if no one else (like European-born Soros) is using money for influence and to sway election results.

No. It's more about Trump being such a crazy man that Republican elite wants nothing to do with him.

Btw, what did he say that is "unreasonable and not grounded in fact"? His comment about illegals from Mexico?

Just read through the Trump quote thread. I do not feel that my quote is really that contentious.

 

[JDragon]

You didn't characterize him as unreasonable, which I understand, you characterized him as "independent of fact and reason."

Yes. Which, to me, is what a very unreasonable person is.

 

[drstrangelov]

Not that I'm a trump fan, because I'm not, but you characterize him as "running independent of fact and reason." How does someone, who would obviously have to be mental defect with that sort of characterization, become a billionaire? Are you saying he is crazy or just he disagrees with you on major topics? Hyperbole?

I agree generally, but didn't trunp inherit a huge amount of New York real estate? What would be the market value of his inheritance holdings today if he had simply sat on them/protected them from eminent domain?

 

[Videer]

Bros been outed as cuckservatives, hah.

 

[Madmick]

I also like to remind everyone that the all American Koch brothers had their wealth handed to them from Stalin when their grandfather built the Soviet Union's gas refineries.

Yeah, they're probably not even savvy businessmen. Just some silver spooners like Trump. Any idiot off the street would have done the same with their inheritance.

Might as well spread around this populist "logic" evenly.

 

[ultramanhyata]

Yeah, they're probably not even savvy businessmen. Just some silver spooners like Trump. Any idiot off the street would have done the same with their inheritance.

Might as well spread around this populist "logic" evenly.

Serious question: Alice Walton is worth almost 35 billion dollars. Do you consider her an elite businesswoman who has been able to to utilize her inherited fortune in a way few other college educated Americans could?

 

[Dalarna3]

Trump is running in opposition to the corporate buyout wing of the Republican Party, while also flaunting his own capitalist chomps. No wonder so many people like him.

 

[Tigerknee]

Trump should just run an independent then and doom the GOP if they want to play that way

 

[The Diplomat]

Trump should just run an independent then and doom the GOP if they want to play that way

He must know that would be an automatic victory for the Democratic nominee (most likely Hillary)

But if he really wanted to troll the election and the republicans, then it'd be a good joke.