The Juggernaut Method 2.0

[KnightTemplar]

I don't know if anyone here is currently running the Juggernaut Method, but the second edition of the book will be available from Smith's website from 30th October.

 

[Phlog]

Boff

Gonna start running this after this last couple of weeks of beyond 5/3/1. I fancy some volume and am looking for a more athletic program with adaptive progress.

Has anyone got any further insights to running the juggernaut?

 

[YukisHeart]

Summary?

 

[onlycarbine]

Boff

Gonna start running this after this last couple of weeks of beyond 5/3/1. I fancy some volume and am looking for a more athletic program with adaptive progress.

Has anyone got any further insights to running the juggernaut?

Can you elaborate on what you mean by athletic?

You're familiar with 5/3/1, so you already might be aware, but have you considered the original 5/3/1's body-weight assistance template? Wendler touts it as, "less stress/more athletic." Couple it with jumps, throws, conditioning, and hard stretching - you've got yourself a well-rounded program.

As a side, I know a few who have had success incorporating Juggernaut Method for their upper body work and 5/3/1 for their lower body.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Thunderkopf]

Interesting, I never heard of this 'til now. I'm always keeping my eyes peeled for new training methods.

 

[Phlog]

Can you elaborate on what you mean by athletic?

You're familiar with 5/3/1, so you already might be aware, but have you considered the original 5/3/1's body-weight assistance template? Wendler touts it as, "less stress/more athletic." Couple it with jumps, throws, conditioning, and hard stretching - you've got yourself a well-rounded program.

As a side, I know a few who have had success incorporating Juggernaut Method for their upper body work and 5/3/1 for their lower body.

Just my 2 cents.

Sure, I'm doing it with a side consideration for American football. Being in the UK, there's no S&C coaching with any understanding of what's needed and I'm too broke to bring someone in anyway. So I have to DIY.

I play tight end/ defensive end, so when I say athletic, I mean I'm not lifting for power lifting comps. Just football, door work, life etc. I fancied some of the hypertrophy to aid in absorbing damage and the higher rep ranges to deliver power consistently over a long drive.

 

[Rocket Surgeon]

Me likey Juggernaut. Kind of the step-brother to 531, but lays out the conditioning and power movements. I want this knowledge NOW.

 

[onlycarbine]

Sure, I'm doing it with a side consideration for American football. Being in the UK, there's no S&C coaching with any understanding of what's needed and I'm too broke to bring someone in anyway. So I have to DIY.

I play tight end/ defensive end, so when I say athletic, I mean I'm not lifting for power lifting comps. Just football, door work, life etc. I fancied some of the hypertrophy to aid in absorbing damage and the higher rep ranges to deliver power consistently over a long drive.

5/3/1 for Football?

Replace the main lifts' programming with FSL for additional volume.

Also includes heaps of specific drills relative to your sport and how to program them into your routine.

 

[NurseKnuckles]

I don't know if anyone here is currently running the Juggernaut Method, but the second edition of the book will be available from Smith's website from 30th October.

I had considered it at one point. Bought the book. Bu its way too complicated for me right now.

I will buy this edition as well though.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Boff

Gonna start running this after this last couple of weeks of beyond 5/3/1. I fancy some volume and am looking for a more athletic program with adaptive progress.

Has anyone got any further insights to running the juggernaut?

After a long lay off from training, I decided to run Juggernaut 2.0(Inverted). Since I was going to have to start light anyway, I figured I may as well use a slow burn program. I messaged Chad and told him the problems I'd had with tendonitis the last time. He advised me to keep to minimum reps until the last set of every Wave. Then go for AMAP.

So far, it's worked. I'm gaining strength and putting on a bit of muscle without any tendon issues. I like the Inverted method: 10 sets of 5 instead of 5 sets on 10, for example.

 

[supremegregjone]

Thanks, hadn't heard of this, will pick up the first book off Amazon for a couple of quid.

 

[selfcritical]

Boff

Gonna start running this after this last couple of weeks of beyond 5/3/1. I fancy some volume and am looking for a more athletic program with adaptive progress.

Has anyone got any further insights to running the juggernaut?

Pay attention to all the explosive work in the program, and actually do it concurrently. Choose your assistance template primarily on volume tolerance.

 

[dawgpnd81]

I like how you progess on your own numbers rather than some random number. Not really sold on the 10's month though. Looking foward to his new book.

 

[selfcritical]

After a long lay off from training, I decided to run Juggernaut 2.0(Inverted). Since I was going to have to start light anyway, I figured I may as well use a slow burn program. I messaged Chad and told him the problems I'd had with tendonitis the last time. He advised me to keep to minimum reps until the last set of every Wave. Then go for AMAP.

So far, it's worked. I'm gaining strength and putting on a bit of muscle without any tendon issues. I like the Inverted method: 10 sets of 5 instead of 5 sets on 10, for example.

I think it does a better job of what the wave is intended for- actually preparing your body to handle higher amounts of volume and intensity

 

[KnightTemplar]

Summary?

From what I've read, it includes a new version of Juggernaut and something called, "Nine Day Work Week".

 

[KnightTemplar]

I think it does a better job of what the wave is intended for- actually preparing your body to handle higher amounts of volume and intensity

I agree. Smith say he now uses the Inverted Juggernaut exclusively, both himself and many of the athletes he trains.

 

[Obscure Terror]

Paid for the eBook and couldn't download it, currently Paypal transaction dispute ongoing. Will buy the new version though as I wanna run it at some point next year. Found the full thing on Scribd and it makes sense to me if you want to get bigger and stronger as the periodization part runs from hypertrophy (10 and 8 waves) down to strength waves (5 and 3). However if you're cutting weight or doing a lot of skill training and not eating like a pig I think 5/3/1 looks more sustainable on paper. I've got an urge to get swole and like the idea of a volume routine that adapts as you adapt.

 

[Thunderkopf]

Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!

Sorry, I just couldn't help myself. But yeah, this certainly looks interesting as hell to me.

 

[KnightTemplar]

Paid for the eBook and couldn't download it, currently Paypal transaction dispute ongoing. Will buy the new version though as I wanna run it at some point next year. Found the full thing on Scribd and it makes sense to me if you want to get bigger and stronger as the periodization part runs from hypertrophy (10 and 8 waves) down to strength waves (5 and 3). However if you're cutting weight or doing a lot of skill training and not eating like a pig I think 5/3/1 looks more sustainable on paper. I've got an urge to get swole and like the idea of a volume routine that adapts as you adapt.

I've run Juggernaut, and I agree. I don't know about the new versions: Inverted Juggernaut and 9 Day Work Week.

 

[Raiman]

Does his book go into warmups sets? How would you warm up for this program?

 

[guilineseguy]

Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, bitch!

Sorry, I just couldn't help myself. But yeah, this certainly looks interesting as hell to me.

It would be pretty cool to turn into Juggernaut! He's pretty bad ass!

I remember reading a little bit on Juggernaut method, but I don't think I ever finished the article or whatever it was i was reading.

 

[Thunderkopf]

It would be pretty cool to turn into Juggernaut! He's pretty bad ass!

I remember reading a little bit on Juggernaut method, but I don't think I ever finished the article or whatever it was i was reading.

Hahaha, spoken like a comic fanboy. Gambit was my favorite character in the 90's X-Men series on Fox.

 

[vladimirtzu]

I have a copy of Juggernaut Method. It's a great book for the reasons they stated above. It actually goes in depth about conditioning, sprints, plyos, and how to work them into your routine. There's no reason you couldn't cut out the 10's and 8's. Wouldn't change hte nature of the program one bit.

You could also stick to strait 5/3/1 for your lifts but use juggernaut as a template for working in the other stuff.

 

[KnightTemplar]

It would be pretty cool to turn into Juggernaut! He's pretty bad ass!

I remember reading a little bit on Juggernaut method, but I don't think I ever finished the article or whatever it was i was reading.

Hahaha, spoken like a comic fanboy. Gambit was my favorite character in the 90's X-Men series on Fox.

The Juggernaut is one of my favorite villains. If you get a chance, check out the Fear Itself story arc, in which the Juggernaut is turned into one of the Chosen of the Asgardian God of Fear. Jugs is given a magic war hammer of equal power to Thor's Mjolnir...

 

[KnightTemplar]

I ran the Juggernaut Method from June to December last year.

- VERY high volume, especially in the 10's and 8's Waves. This is great fun if one is young enough to enjoy getting one's Swole on. For old farts like me it's still great fun, but difficult to recover from; I ended up with Tendinitis in my left elbow and had to switch to Wendler's 5/3/1 for Powerlifting to recover. I actually enjoy higher reps, and don't like Singles much, but you have to play the cards you're dealt.

The new Juggernaut book includes something called the Inverted JM, in which you do 10 sets of 5 reps instead of 5 sets of 10. I don't know what difference this would make; volume is volume, no matter how you set it up.

- Slow burn. Wesley Smith admits this in the book:

"This can be frustrating for some athletes, because I won't let them take a true 1 RM for such a long time. They'll tell me, 'I really wanna see if I can Bench 250 today' and I'll reply, 'No, but when you get 250 on the Bench you're gonna do it for more than 1 Rep'."

It takes 4 - 6 weeks to run a full cycle of 5/3/1, depending on which Template you choose. It takes between 16 and 24 weeks to run a cycle of Juggernaut. I'm not saying this is a bad thing, just make sure you are willing to commit the time to run a whole Cycle. No point in changing half way through.

 

[ThePitBull32]

I ran the juggernaut method last year and saw good gains. However, I only did it for squat, bench, and press. My squat went from about 335 to 410. I tried runnin this program for DLs, but after the first wave I quit. I do not like going above 5 reps for the DL.