The investigation just GRU by another 12 indictments (Mueller Thread v. 18)

[Cake4Breakfast]

I don't follow the guy, so I didn't see the addendum that he added later. How nice of you to assume the worst about me.

Anyway, it was fair to assume that Cristol was calling for military action given the way he worded the original tweet. Nothing dishonest about taking people at face value.

I don't remember you being as obtuse as you are in this thread, if you are not trolling you might want to have that brain tumor removed.

 

[waiguoren]

I have no words

To be fair, you rarely have words. Usually just silly gifs and other images.

 

[Bloody Pulp]

Dozens of stories "everyone knows".
I'm convinced!

Yes? Did you read any of them? A lot of people inside and outside the Whitehouse knew about a lot of it, it just wasn’t an issue back then. The relationship between media and politicians was more of a boys club back then so no one made an issue of it or reported it. Hell, everything was more of a boys club back then.

If JFK was doing that stuff today there would be “leaks” and “anonymous sources say” every other day. Dude was slaying it.

 

[waiguoren]

I don't remember you being as obtuse as you are in this thread

If I'm being obtuse, I'd like to change.

Cristol listed multiple actual wars that were fought between nuclear powers.

Then he said we can "push back" against Russia without going nuclear.

How is it not a fair reading to think that Cristol was calling for non-nuclear military action?

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

If I'm being obtuse, I'd like to change.

Cristol listed multiple actual wars that were fought between nuclear powers.

Then he said we can "push back" against Russia without going nuclear.

How is it not a fair reading to think that Cristol was calling for non-nuclear military action?

He main point was that pushing back against Russia wasn't going to lead to nuclear war, and he brought up the proxy wars to show that even proxy wars didn't lead to nuclear war.

 

[cincymma79]

 

[waiguoren]

He main point was that pushing back against Russia wasn't going to lead to nuclear war, and he brought up the proxy wars to show that even proxy wars didn't lead to nuclear war.

The proxy wars he referred to were actual wars that led to the deaths of millions of people.

 

[waiguoren]

Obama was referring to actual voter fraud. He didn't say foreigners couldn't meddle in our elections and influence the outcome. No contradiction there.

 

[Cake4Breakfast]

The proxy wars he referred to were actual wars that led to the deaths of millions of people.

And yet they still did not lead to a nuclear war, which was the point. Is English not your first language, or do you just treat every English sentence like a Rorschach inkblot?

 

[Limbo Pete]

To be fair, you rarely have words. Usually just silly gifs and other images.

Have we met?

 

[cincymma79]

Obama was referring to actual voter fraud. He didn't say foreigners couldn't meddle in our elections and influence the outcome. No contradiction there.

So they didn’t affect any physical votes but they did tattle on the democrats and tattle tales are mean

 

[waiguoren]

And yet they still did not lead to a nuclear war, which was the point.

If that was his point---and I do believe him that it was---he really ought to have come up with better examples than "push back" that resulted in war and the death of millions.

More broadly, I don't see the anti-Trump camp offering much in the way of concrete policy "push back" to prevent future phishing attempts on Democrats/Republicans. Mostly I see grandstanding and hyperbole.

 

[Joe]

This whole fucking FISA bs the Republicans stirred up is pathetic. Congratulations you felt sympathy for a Russian useful idiot. If you guys felt any shame you would learn from this. But you guys will destroy anything and everything for the golden groveler.

 

[Joe]

never forget the lies and bs

 

[Darkballs]

If I'm being obtuse, I'd like to change.

Cristol listed multiple actual wars that were fought between nuclear powers.

Then he said we can "push back" against Russia without going nuclear.

How is it not a fair reading to think that Cristol was calling for non-nuclear military action?

Pretty inconsistent with your original "textualism." When has "push back" ever been commonly interpreted to mean "war?"

 

[Joe]

 

[Darkballs]

never forget the lies and bs

@bobgeese

we need an explanation here.

 

[waiguoren]

Pretty inconsistent with your original "textualism." When has "push back" ever been commonly interpreted to mean "war?"

I am a textualist-originalist when it comes to law.

When it comes to Twitter and 280-character limits, and the author lists multiple deadly wars before calling for "push back", the most reasonable guess is that he was referring to military push back.

 

[waiguoren]

This whole fucking FISA bs the Republicans stirred up is pathetic. Congratulations you felt sympathy for a Russian useful idiot. If you guys felt any shame you would learn from this. But you guys will destroy anything and everything for the golden groveler.

#bobgeese

we need an explanation here.

Which specific part of Nunes's memo is a lie?

 

[Fedorable]

I need an update, what evidence has been provided to the american people thus far?